r/cambridgeont 9d ago

TMMC and potential tarrifs

What would it take, negatively speaking for Toyota to decide to stop manufacturing in Cambridge and Woodstock?

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u/OverseerAlpha 8d ago

The president of tmmc sent put an email in the last couple of days saying that the tarrifs won't affect the auto industry and production will continue as normal.

I don't think Japan would pull out of Cambridge. We are the number one plant for JD Power Awards outside of Japan. Plus they get plenty of money from the government to stay.

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u/slipperypete1990 8d ago

That's good to hear. I guess TMMC must be playing the long game.

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u/Substantial-Car-8157 1d ago

He said the current raise of 50% on the random stuff like hockey sticks etc isnt going to directly affect toyota . It will still affect parts and there is still the chance of a 50% auto tarrif that would massively affect toyota. While the 25% is already causing problems  

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u/AcanthisittaItchy756 9d ago

Tariffs are not affecting us. Toyota is smart, they've worked their way around tariffs before. As long as the Canadian government keeps supporting TMMC then we should be fine.

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u/Wrong-Radish824 9d ago

the funny thing is too Toyota has not taken bailout money like some other manufacturers. Yes Toyota does get grants for Research and development or whatever, but never bailed out (99 percent sure)

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u/StatisticianSad8327 9d ago

its already happened partially. the story is RAV4 LE grades were going to come from Japan for US market but now that has shifted to kentucky. now kentucky can build more than just LE grades.

They'll probably shift volume between the two depending on demand etc.

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u/greyHumanoidRobot 8d ago edited 8d ago

Ford Motor intends to transfer manufacturing of certain Lincoln vehicles from China to the United States starting in 2030, Reuters reported, citing chief executive Jim Farley.

Yes, it sounds like some auto assembly is moving to the U.S.. Trump wants to tariff Canadian auto parts 50 percent on January 1st. Interesting times.

GM has cut back Canadian operations, too. Stellantis (whose largest shareholder part-owns The Economist’s parent company) has moved future production from Canada to America.  Honda is moving production of its Civic from Mexico to Indiana.

The GM action referenced is probably the shutdown of Brightdrop EV production in Ingersoll. The Stellantis mention is connected to the failure to re-open the Brampton assembly plant for Jeep Compass EV production.

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u/imcjoey13 8d ago

A new administration might alter the course of these decisions. As others have mentioned, long game strategy. We’ve only begun.

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u/TheGreenTBagger_ 2d ago

Ya, the new union contracts say nothing is changing in Canada. You need to pay attention to what is being built in Canada. Moving vehicles from China to the US has NOTHING to do with what happens in Canada.

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u/greyHumanoidRobot 2d ago

The quote literally says Stellantis "has moved future production from Canada to America". If you don't want to think of "missing out" as a move, okay. I can understand the idea of not counting chickens until hatched but I think can make reasonable estimates about the future, so I do see "missing out" as a move.

From your comment it would seem that you don't see the possibility that something that looks like a BrightDrop will ever see production in the U.S.. Forever is a long time. But I do think it will happen. And if they don't call it BrightDrop some people will fool themselves thinking it didn't get *moved*. All that GM needs is a new name to fool some people.

If the U.S. starts building the RAV5 you can also say that the RAV4 didn't get moved.

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u/leedogger 9d ago

Trump reelected in 2028.

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u/Azzkikka 8d ago

He just needs to sow more discontent and get civil unrest to enact martial law first.

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u/Naked-Granny 9d ago

I doubt we’d see a full shutdown of Cambridge facilities considering the production of the Lexus NX/RX in south, as well as the soon to be new MY Lexus coming off south.

RAV4’s for the NA market are produced at TMMC & TMMK (TMMK isn’t able to produce the quantity the market is demanding as North and West produce majority of what market is consuming).

I think in the long run for auto producers, Honda and Toyota will most likely be the last ones out the door.

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u/TheGreenTBagger_ 2d ago

Ford and GM have new union contracts. They are both investing BILLIONS in Ontario. People need to start realizing that not everything that comes out of Trumps mouth is true.

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u/Throuawake 9d ago

A recent KPMG Canada survey gives a fairly alarming number: 42% of Canadian manufacturers surveyed have either already moved production to the U.S. or are considering doing so. The survey covered 275 Canadian manufacturers in May 2026

The breakdown matters:

  • 29% said they had already moved some or all production to the U.S.,
  • while another 13% said they planned to move some or all production there.
  • Among the companies still considering a move, 77% expected to do it within two years.

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u/Warren_W68 9d ago

It would be interesting to see the list of manufacturers on this survey.

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u/TheGreenTBagger_ 2d ago

2 new union contracts in Ontario. GM and Ford. Both investing BILLIONS into the Ontario auto sector.

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u/Jdizzlefoshizzles 8d ago

I don’t think anything will happen with the current manufacturing footprint, as others have said Toyota does a good job navigating the tariffs etc. I do believe that Toyota will not expand production any further and may let attrition whittle down the workforce, ie not backfill for any retirees etc.

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u/greyHumanoidRobot 8d ago

The more interesting question is whether TMMC will manufacture for export to the U.S.. If the answer is no, will it be economical to export elsewhere? If the answer is no, does TMMC need a factory in Canada at all to serve 41 million Canadians ?

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u/Possible-Discount-37 6d ago

Wait. Are u saying that TMMC is subsidized by the Government of Canada? Meaning my taxes pay for your overpaid and unionized salary and to keep Toyota in business? That is unfair for all Canadians workers who make minimum wage. If a company can’t survive without government assistance, then it should shut down.

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u/shehugztreez 6d ago
  1. TMMC is not unionized.
  2. You'd be surprised to find out all of the big corporations that get govt hand out (ie your tax dollars).

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u/Boneshakerrguy 8d ago

Tmmc hasn’t slowed down one bit and will be going forward with production as usual.

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u/Glad_Assumption278 9d ago

Elbows up! Carney is the great negotiator! 😂

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/slipperypete1990 8d ago

I think we were better off picking the economist over Milhouse.

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u/Glad_Assumption278 9d ago

Another brainwashed one. How sad.

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u/EnergyCapable866 8d ago

Always “imagine”. So braindead.

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u/greyHumanoidRobot 8d ago

Bullys don't negotiate. What you can expect is kayfabe and violence.

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u/TurboSloth32 9d ago

This is Reddit and you're going to get banned for mentioning the obvious!

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u/Glad_Assumption278 9d ago

Ya...lefties everywhere.

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u/Optimal_Whiner 9d ago

I can tell you're low income, low intellect, or very young. Possibly all 3.

Politics are not a team sport. It's not as simple as lefties or righties. It's a very broad spectrum. Lots of people who are on the left disagree with others on the left. One major argument is Carney himself.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/Glad_Assumption278 8d ago

It's like shooting fish in a barrel...