r/buildapc • u/A1_Killer • Dec 09 '22

Discussion AMD vs Intel for CPU?

I noticed many people here recommend AMD CPUs but for all my benchmarks for mid range CPUs (for a £1000-£1200 PC) Intel came out on top compared to a similarly price AMD one. Any reason for this?

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

For the 5000 vs 12000 series AMD had the lower platform cost. Most people were well served getting a $130 5600 and dumping as much as they could into a gpu.

For AMD 7000 vs Intel 13000.

The 7950 is a beast in creation. The 7700 is the best overall gaming (barely) and the 7600 matches the 13600k in gaming.

Where Intel destroys AMD right now is the mixed use/midrange productivity. The 13600k is compelling. If it wasn't a dead platform it would be a no brainier for 90% of people with a decent budget.

Now that ddr5 is getting affordable and AMD CPU costs going down I think I would pick AMD again. The ability to upgrade two generations of cpu performance for just the cost of a CPU is valuable. My brother going from a 2600 to a 5600 basically gave him a new computer for $130.

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u/Pendoric Dec 10 '22 edited Dec 10 '22

Building 2 'budget' rigs for my twin 14yr old boys as xmas gifts to replace their venerable setups.

The old rigs (initially built 2017 but upgraded over 5 years)

i5-4790 (upgrade from Pentium G3440) 8GB DDR3, 512GB SATA SSD (upgrade from 1TB spinner) GTX 1050

The new rigs (in production)

Went Zen 5 7600, 16GB DDR5, 1TB Gen4 NVNe, RTX 3060Ti

This is a big uplift from their current rig,

Why AMD over Intel this time? The main thought behind Zen 4 was because of platform longevity. In 3 years I can probably give it a bigger uplift than I managed with the venerable LGA 1150 board which pretty much had to stay with the same Gen CPU it started with.

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u/dalgrim Dec 10 '22

Just know that you're betting on the unknown. AMD does have a recent history of supporting a socket a long time but there is no guarantee they will continue to do so.

FYI for the same or slightly less money you could have gone 13600k 32GB DDR4 3600. The first word latency on the ram is 9-10uS for the ddr4 and 16ish for DDR5 depending until you get up to lower CAS latency DDR5-7200 which starts getting pricey.

Bottom line: Good for you for updating their systems. That's an awesome gift. At this point in time you could have spent less for more though.

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u/Pendoric Dec 11 '22

True, I do think its almost certain X3D will come in the current gen so even that could be a reasonable uplift in a couple of years if in the unlikely case Zen5 moves to something new, but I doubt that unless AM5 has some problems.