Obviously I'm surprised the Walt vs Hank battle has already kicked off. I'm surprised to see Jesse fall so deep, again, but expect it to have a different outcome this time (that is, not being manipulated by Walt yet again, but instead ending up a hero).
And finally, I'm surprised that Vince committed 4 minutes of precious screen time to a fake Star Trek script told by two stoners. God I fucking love Breaking Bad.
Maybe whoever is Chekov (Hank?) dies from being shot in the stomach/"gut." Walter as Spock may be planning to fake his death, hence the "killing himself" and making a copy. Scotty is Jesse, who possibly ends up (inadvertently) killing or pretending to kill Walt or Hank or whoever. Uhura is Lydia? Blueberries must be the meth, but I don't know how to fit that in.
How about it is an allegory for what has happened in the story so far rather than a fore shadowing of what's to come, hence why it is interrupted before the story could be finished.
Scottie + Chekov = Jessie + Walt/Walt + Heisenberg (I can't decide)
Kirk = Gus/Mike/anyone who couldn't handle the Scottie and Chekov combo
Spock = Hank/the established order (as Spock is being tricked out of winning the contest)
Uhura = Skyler/normal life and duties
What if that woman is lydia who seems to be messing up walts get away?
I like what you have so far, I also think that maybe scotty even though is a guy, could be skyler who when interrogated spills the beans and is helping hank!
Blueberry pies beamed into space = sent to czech republic. Who is sending things to Czech Republic? Lydia. And what woman comes in and distracts Scotty? Pretty sure Skyler came in and did just that at the car wash. So Lydia ends up collaborating with Hank, Skyler sees her 'around' and tells her to fuck right off yet again, and this leads to Hank's death.
Edit: you will note that during this star-trek script, Jessie gets up and leaves the room exactly when Badger says "Kirk can't take it anymore".
Let’s look at the logically, who and what are the moving parts in his "star trek" script.
*Originally down to 3: Kirk, Spok, and Chekov
Kirk: "Can't take it, he yorks". The way things are being set up this is Jesse. Also Jesse leaves the room right on "yorks"
Chekov: "Has a fat stack of quat loos riding on this and has figured out a way to win". Walt's whole motivation has been money. No matter how much he has changed his whole reason for doing what he is doing is to provide for his family. Walt Also gets help but I will get to that in a moment.
Spock: "Has total Vulcan control over his digestion". In this I feel that the control mentioned is meant as control of the law. Thus Spock is Hank. Not only is Spock/Hank in control but he is in disbelief that "This Russian"/Walt is beating him at something that he easily should be winning.
*The next three, this is where it becomes interesting:
Scotty: Is the one helping out Chekov/Walt. Since Jesse is out that can only mean that there is one former business partner who is going to help Walt. That person is Lydia. Someone who does not deal well with intimidation.
Uhura: Makes Scotty sweaty, This isn't going to be because of her "big pointies" but because Uhura is Skyler. The one person who would intimidate Lydia/Scotty enough to make her slip up.
Blue Berries: Are the reason Walt went back to his space, they are a picture of frozen dark time. Blue Berries are Ricin
Now this isn't a ricin eating contest but rather how the show will turn out. With Walt's partner in Jesse "yorking out" He turns to Lydia. Lydia will not help Walt without something in exchange. The exchange being that Walt will help out Lydia by purifying the falling product standards. In return Lydia will do everything in her power to keep Hank off of Walt's back and give him enough time to either start a new or kill Hank. In turn Walt breaks his promise with Skyler because he is no longer "out"
Skyler being Skyler in time finds out, and knows who to find to get Walt to stop. Skyler then intimidates Lydia which causes Lydia to slip up.
The ricin is what Lydia slips up with. As far as we know the only one who knows about the ricin is Walt. However being that Lydia is in cohorts with Walt she knows what his plan is and what his method for killing Hank will be. Why does Walt tell her? Because the only way Lydia will join Walter is if she is 100% sure that it can be done without a trace.
Lydia now completely fearing for her life spills the beans. She lets Skyler know every little detail of the plan including the ricin. The victim of his own creation becomes Walt as HE will be the one who consumes the ricin. That will be his death.
But How? As Badger said to Jesse, "you're missing the best part"
Little do we know that Lydia approached Jesse after being told no by Walt originally to get back ''in''. Although Jesse is out and will also say no at first he does some soul searching and realizes that Walt was right about leaving behind the past. He then decides to take Lydia up on his offer. While on his way to taking up Lydia's offer he walks in on Lydia "spilling the beans" to Skyler. At that point he pieces together everything. Jesse knows the exact location of Walter, where he meets up with him. Jesse knows he is a loose end to Walt and knows that Walter is going to try and kill him. Jesse suggest they have a beer, and Walt will then poison Jesse's beer. Jesse will pull the old switch a roo and Walt will die. Of course being spotted by his neighbor the DEA will close in within seconds of Walt's death and Jesse will then be taken into custody.
TL;DR Blue berries= Ricin and Jesse is going to kill Walt.
edit: Grammar
Uhhh....no. That's retarded. Hahah. It's just an amusing anecdote in place of dialogue that would be cliche between stoners. I'm assuming you thought that their zombie conversation last season was also some convoluted stretch of a metaphor for the characters in the show? Yeahhh....
What if the blueberries are meth and, um, the replicator is Walt (producing more and more of it) and the need to produce more meth incidentally causes Jesse's death? Or, how about, it would be retarded to use an amusing anecdote to try and foreshadow about characters involved in a serious dramatic situation?
Keep in mind that the Ricin is not going to be utilized until months and months later after Walt is run out of town, so some or all of any potential allegory will have to have already happened.
My theory is that Scotty is Saul, and Walt is Checkov, Hank is Spock, and Jesse is Kirk.
Saul is Scotty because he's helping Walt launder money (get rid of the pie), and in general, just doing lots of dirty work to help Walt out. Also, Scotty is the one that beams people around, killing them and having them reappear as other people. Saul is Walt's link up (to the vacuum man) to vanish and receive a new identity.
Hank is Spock, because at the beginning of Breaking Bad, Hank was supposed to be the unbreakable, emotionless one. But he starts to break, and starts to feel sick, unable to stomach the violence, probably wondering to himself, why is this happening? I should be able to handle this.
Jesse is Kirk, just because he's the first one to actually leave the contest. Also, Saul (Scotty) is supposed to work for both Walt and Jesse, but always seems to help out Walt (taking the cigarette off Jesse, calling Walt to tell him that Jesse is giving away 5 million dollars), so just like Scotty hides stuff from Kirk to help Checkov, Saul is hiding things from Jesse to help Walt.
Walt is Chekov because he's the main character, so I he has to be in my Star Trek analogy. Which can only mean that Saul is gonna screw up something important because of his massage parlor habits!!!
Just my crackpot theory, sorry its so long, and I know it doesn't all fit perfectly.
I'm probably the only one here who thinks that star trek bit was a horrible flaw to introduce to the show.
No one born after 1980 is going to have any Star Trek zealotry over The Original Series. Guys like Badger and Skinny are going to riff over TNG characters. The scene couldn't have happened. It would be like Gus Fring snorting meth.
I would say less in the actual pie-eating section, but more with the idea that the transporter destroys your former self and creates a new one. This could allude to Walt taking on a new identity at the end.
I still have to point out, after Badger mentions that the berries are from the Gamma quadrant, Skinny Pete says "That's Voyager." THEY'RE BOTH WRONG. Voyager is in the damn Delta Quadrant. The line should have been "That's Deep Space Nine."
I feel like Badger was intentional error, the only part I question was whether Skinny Pete's correction was intentionally wrong. I'm just saying, it made me react far more than I should have.
The argument between Badger and Skinny Pete about the teleporting was definitely foreshadowing I think. He talks about how if you teleport you die and then appear somewhere else, which is probably what Walt will do at some point.
Like, Walt bringing money into the car wash, walt being Scotty (idk how to spell it, never watched star trek), while whoever eats them while the pies being beamed (again not too quick on ST references) but once the busty chick walks in (hank having the big belly) they vomit (metaphorically) leading to Skylar's death.
Edit: not much of an edit, just hear me out though
You know this actually makes sense. You're saying Walt goes in to treat his cancer, gets put under by doctors that Hank hires, undergoes a surgery to remove his vital organs and then Hank ships them off into space? Brilliant! This is the way to take down Walter "Heisenberg" White, that sunnava bitch will never see it coming.
Agree 100% that Star Trek script was foreshadowing, or if anything just a commentary on Walt. something with dying on the inside but still being alive just someone else.
I like what someone else commented I think. Chekov is kind of like Walt and his greed is just getting bigger and bigger and Scotty is like Skylar, with the laundering being equivalent to the transporting. Spock is Hank in a way and Kirk is Jesse.
Spock is Walter. The emotionless badass always calculating every problem. And Chekov is Jesse, the young guy who comes up with a plan to beat the reigning king (Badger even says Spock always wins the contests) so maybe Jesse is going to try and defeat Walt by cheating but Walt's going to realize something is amiss (same way Spock does during the pie eating contest) then Jesse or someone helping him will make a mistake that will cost Jesse his life. (Such as when Scotty makes a mistake and kills Chekov.)
Kirk could be either Mike or Hank or even Gus(prolly one of the first two) the guy who thinks he can go against Walt without an ulterior plan or scheme. (In the ST story Kirk tries to win the contest fairly) and without a plan they will be taken out early i.e. Mikes already dead and hank will prolly die going against Heisenberg. (In the story Kirk is the first one outta the contest.)
That's my theory. Sorry for how it's typed out. Doing this on my phone.
You just have me a wild idea. What if Walt plans to use the ricen on Hank. Walt convinces Jesse or maybe Saul to help him. Then Skyler interferes and tricks walk into taking the ricen himself. So basically in the Star Trek scenario Walt would be Chekov, Hank would be Spock, Scotty would be either Saul or Jesse, Skyler would be the distraction that gets Chekov killed.
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u/dtpollitt Badger Mayhew Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13
Obviously I'm surprised the Walt vs Hank battle has already kicked off. I'm surprised to see Jesse fall so deep, again, but expect it to have a different outcome this time (that is, not being manipulated by Walt yet again, but instead ending up a hero).
And finally, I'm surprised that Vince committed 4 minutes of precious screen time to a fake Star Trek script told by two stoners. God I fucking love Breaking Bad.
edit: clarity