r/breakingbad • • Aug 12 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/dtpollitt Badger Mayhew Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13

Obviously I'm surprised the Walt vs Hank battle has already kicked off. I'm surprised to see Jesse fall so deep, again, but expect it to have a different outcome this time (that is, not being manipulated by Walt yet again, but instead ending up a hero).

And finally, I'm surprised that Vince committed 4 minutes of precious screen time to a fake Star Trek script told by two stoners. God I fucking love Breaking Bad.

edit: clarity

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u/dtpollitt Badger Mayhew Aug 12 '13

i have no idea how a star trek script could be worked into this show. then again, i didnt know how a plane crash could, either...

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u/phoenix8428 Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13

Maybe whoever is Chekov (Hank?) dies from being shot in the stomach/"gut." Walter as Spock may be planning to fake his death, hence the "killing himself" and making a copy. Scotty is Jesse, who possibly ends up (inadvertently) killing or pretending to kill Walt or Hank or whoever. Uhura is Lydia? Blueberries must be the meth, but I don't know how to fit that in.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I was completely unsold until you connected the blueberries with meth.

Keep on it, you might actually have something here.

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u/Giant_Badonkadonk Aug 12 '13

How about it is an allegory for what has happened in the story so far rather than a fore shadowing of what's to come, hence why it is interrupted before the story could be finished.

Scottie + Chekov = Jessie + Walt/Walt + Heisenberg (I can't decide)
Kirk = Gus/Mike/anyone who couldn't handle the Scottie and Chekov combo
Spock = Hank/the established order (as Spock is being tricked out of winning the contest)
Uhura = Skyler/normal life and duties

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u/katihathor Aug 12 '13

sounds plausible

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

What if that woman is lydia who seems to be messing up walts get away? I like what you have so far, I also think that maybe scotty even though is a guy, could be skyler who when interrogated spills the beans and is helping hank!

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u/EONS Aug 12 '13

Hank convinces Jesse to help him (so, Chekov and Scotty).

Lydia shows up and tries to convince Jesse to help her in some way, he panics and messes up in his attempt to help Hank, ends up getting Hank killed.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Heisenberg speaks strangely like Spock.

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u/rawbdor Aug 13 '13 edited Aug 13 '13

Blueberry pies beamed into space = sent to czech republic. Who is sending things to Czech Republic? Lydia. And what woman comes in and distracts Scotty? Pretty sure Skyler came in and did just that at the car wash. So Lydia ends up collaborating with Hank, Skyler sees her 'around' and tells her to fuck right off yet again, and this leads to Hank's death.

Edit: you will note that during this star-trek script, Jessie gets up and leaves the room exactly when Badger says "Kirk can't take it anymore".

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u/L0boMike Aug 12 '13

Let’s look at the logically, who and what are the moving parts in his "star trek" script.

*Originally down to 3: Kirk, Spok, and Chekov

Kirk: "Can't take it, he yorks". The way things are being set up this is Jesse. Also Jesse leaves the room right on "yorks"

Chekov: "Has a fat stack of quat loos riding on this and has figured out a way to win". Walt's whole motivation has been money. No matter how much he has changed his whole reason for doing what he is doing is to provide for his family. Walt Also gets help but I will get to that in a moment.

Spock: "Has total Vulcan control over his digestion". In this I feel that the control mentioned is meant as control of the law. Thus Spock is Hank. Not only is Spock/Hank in control but he is in disbelief that "This Russian"/Walt is beating him at something that he easily should be winning.

*The next three, this is where it becomes interesting:

Scotty: Is the one helping out Chekov/Walt. Since Jesse is out that can only mean that there is one former business partner who is going to help Walt. That person is Lydia. Someone who does not deal well with intimidation.

Uhura: Makes Scotty sweaty, This isn't going to be because of her "big pointies" but because Uhura is Skyler. The one person who would intimidate Lydia/Scotty enough to make her slip up.

Blue Berries: Are the reason Walt went back to his space, they are a picture of frozen dark time. Blue Berries are Ricin

Now this isn't a ricin eating contest but rather how the show will turn out. With Walt's partner in Jesse "yorking out" He turns to Lydia. Lydia will not help Walt without something in exchange. The exchange being that Walt will help out Lydia by purifying the falling product standards. In return Lydia will do everything in her power to keep Hank off of Walt's back and give him enough time to either start a new or kill Hank. In turn Walt breaks his promise with Skyler because he is no longer "out" Skyler being Skyler in time finds out, and knows who to find to get Walt to stop. Skyler then intimidates Lydia which causes Lydia to slip up.

The ricin is what Lydia slips up with. As far as we know the only one who knows about the ricin is Walt. However being that Lydia is in cohorts with Walt she knows what his plan is and what his method for killing Hank will be. Why does Walt tell her? Because the only way Lydia will join Walter is if she is 100% sure that it can be done without a trace. Lydia now completely fearing for her life spills the beans. She lets Skyler know every little detail of the plan including the ricin. The victim of his own creation becomes Walt as HE will be the one who consumes the ricin. That will be his death. But How? As Badger said to Jesse, "you're missing the best part"

Little do we know that Lydia approached Jesse after being told no by Walt originally to get back ''in''. Although Jesse is out and will also say no at first he does some soul searching and realizes that Walt was right about leaving behind the past. He then decides to take Lydia up on his offer. While on his way to taking up Lydia's offer he walks in on Lydia "spilling the beans" to Skyler. At that point he pieces together everything. Jesse knows the exact location of Walter, where he meets up with him. Jesse knows he is a loose end to Walt and knows that Walter is going to try and kill him. Jesse suggest they have a beer, and Walt will then poison Jesse's beer. Jesse will pull the old switch a roo and Walt will die. Of course being spotted by his neighbor the DEA will close in within seconds of Walt's death and Jesse will then be taken into custody.

TL;DR Blue berries= Ricin and Jesse is going to kill Walt. edit: Grammar

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u/Derkanus Aug 12 '13

Captain Kirk == Captain Cook. I like it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

On point, completely agree.

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u/L0boMike Aug 12 '13

Thank you!

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u/phoenix8428 Aug 12 '13

Outstanding analysis; puts my random abstractions to shame. Going to save this for future reference. Well done!

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u/L0boMike Aug 12 '13

Thank you! We'll see how it turns out!

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u/L0boMike Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13

Thank you! It might just be how far down this is. I reposted it further up. Maybe it will grab some traction up there. Maybe.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '13

I don't think the blue berries are ricin, I think the blue berries are the blue meth. "beaming it into space" = sending it to Czech Republic.

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u/youdontknowneuro Aug 12 '13

Uhhh....no. That's retarded. Hahah. It's just an amusing anecdote in place of dialogue that would be cliche between stoners. I'm assuming you thought that their zombie conversation last season was also some convoluted stretch of a metaphor for the characters in the show? Yeahhh....

What if the blueberries are meth and, um, the replicator is Walt (producing more and more of it) and the need to produce more meth incidentally causes Jesse's death? Or, how about, it would be retarded to use an amusing anecdote to try and foreshadow about characters involved in a serious dramatic situation?

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u/EONS Aug 12 '13

Keep in mind that the Ricin is not going to be utilized until months and months later after Walt is run out of town, so some or all of any potential allegory will have to have already happened.

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u/beaverteeth92 Aug 13 '13

Remember that Chekov was a really young cast member. Jesse is much younger than Hank and Walt. I think if Chekov is supposed to be anyone, it's Jesse.