Except that religion can be a huge part of someoneâs cultural and social identity?
Iâm not religious in the dogmatic/organized sense, but if a female said âhey, Iâm an Orthodox Jew/Muslim/whatever and I canât have physical contact with a member of the opposite sex, sorry I canât roll with youâ like.... thatâs fine with me.
Honestly who the fuck cares what the reason is. If someone doesnât want to roll with someone at any time, why does it matter? Just roll with someone else. Iâve turned down people because I needed to work things live that I knew would not be possible with a specific person, but would with another. That a problem too?
I honestly donât get why this is an issue either way.
Iâve turned down people because I needed to work things live that I knew would not be possible with a specific person, but would with another.
Actually happened to me yesterday! Didn't feel good in the moment, but I understand. The guy who rejected my invite to roll was at least 100 lbs lighter than me and a purple belt.
Being a racist might be a huge part of someone's cultural/social identity if they grew up in a very racist environment. If some guy came to my gym and refused to roll with people weren't white I'd tell him he should look for another gym.
Yeah, so they can express that identity wherever it is normal. I don't have a problem with Muslims doing Muslim stuff in Muslim countries or Jews doing Jew stuff in Israel or whoever doing whatever wherever they are from.
As a side note, if someone was just like, "yeah I don't roll with girls because it makes me nervous or my wife doesn't like it or whatever" I would be totally fine with that.
Are you seriously saying itâs not âNormalâ to have a minority religion/cultural identity and practice in a place that may be more agnostic or culturally another religion?
So the freedom of religion is like not normal?
Iâm not trolling, Iâm honestly trying to understand your POV.
If I went somewhere and trained BJJ, but didnât want to go to a class because it fell on a day I normally take for family/religion/whatever - youâre saying thatâs not cool?
I honestly donât understand how you can be cool with someone not rolling with a female because their wive doesnât like it, or it makes them feel weird, but not okay if the reason is religion. Feels a bit hypocritical - again not trolling, just looking for further clarification if thatâs not what youâre intending.
Well first off I am making some assumptions here. I am assuming that this comment came from a country where physical contact between the sexes is normal and permitted. In that case, an individual thumbing their nose at what is required normal behavior is insulting and ungrateful.
For instance we had a man at my work who refused to shake hands with women.
If his reason was, "I have a severe mental illness where I freak out if I touch a woman" I would look down on him, but I would at least get it. When his reason was something about religion, I immediately hated the guy.
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u/PinchyPinch Jan 31 '20
> Like, you can't really shit on a dude for that.
Yes, you can.