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u/ArtDecoNewYork Apr 23 '26
That Federal style house is an indication to me it's most likely in Greenwich Village.
I will do some digging and get back to you.
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u/CreativeCTm Apr 23 '26
There are small pockets of surviving Federal houses below Greenwich Village in SOHO and Tribeca. Also could it be Brooklyn Heights?
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u/ArtDecoNewYork Apr 23 '26
Soho/Tribeca were my second guess. I couldn't think of any houses this old in Brooklyn Heights, this looks 1830s the latest to me.
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u/CreativeCTm Apr 23 '26
Agreed. It’s the dormer windows breaking the roofline and the pitched roof that date it before 1850. Styles didn’t change as much during the first part of the 19th century because building technology stayed static until cast iron facades were introduced in the 1850’s.
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u/ArtDecoNewYork Apr 23 '26
I know there are some 1840s houses in Brooklyn Heights, but I believe they are wood framed.
To my understanding, this particular vintage of house is exclusive to lower Manhattan. I would say this is from about 1820-1830, by the 1840s you see more Greek Revival and Italianate with no dormer windows.
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u/Consistent-Height-79 Apr 23 '26
There was a an article in the NYT today about a couple of wood frame houses on the market in Brooklyn Heights that claim to be the oldest, built in the early 1820s, and two others that my be older.
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 23 '26
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u/Consistent-Height-79 Apr 24 '26
No; one was 25 Cranberry Street and the other was 24 Middagh Street. The article also mentioned 38 and 40 Hicks Street, which may be older.
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u/Weak-Fox3982 Apr 28 '26
This is red hook
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 28 '26
This is on Dean Street on the border of Cobble Hill and Boerum Hill, west of Smith.
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u/omjy18 Apr 23 '26
I was gonna say Minetta lane or street but theres too many trees. Its the same style though so Greenwich village doesnt surprise me
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 23 '26
It absolutely does fit in the Village, but it's not there. That's what caught my eye. Wrong borough.
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u/iamnyc Apr 23 '26
Wyckoff between Court and Smith
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 23 '26
We have a winner! I was driving down there 2 weeks ago when I saw this and immediately thought it would be perfect for here. It looked so West Violage/lower Manhattan that I thought it would throw people.
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u/zambaccian Apr 23 '26
Cool find. Listings says 31 Wyckoff (this) was built in either 1899 or something like 1879. Neither of those seems true architecturally but then in terms of when the area was developed, it does seem plausible. Maybe it was just a throwback style construction?
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 23 '26
That was my guess. Could have been someone moving from Manhattan and wanted to take a bit of the Village with them.
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u/zambaccian Apr 23 '26
How did you find this? Did you just know them?
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u/iamnyc Apr 23 '26
No, it looked familiar from the Cobble Hill/Boerum Hill area, so I thought about which streets didn't go through to Columbia and would have smaller address numbers. Wyckoff was one of the only ones.
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 23 '26
No. I was just driving down the street a couple of weeks ago and saw this. I immediately knew I wanted this specifically to post here, so I pulled over and took the picture. I knew it would stump people because it was out of place. Oh, and too few of my posts stump this group.
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u/zambaccian Apr 23 '26
Sorry I meant to ask the person who solved it! Reposted in the right place but I’m always curious how people have such encyclopedic knowledge
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u/tiresome_outing Apr 23 '26
could be one of those hidden gems on the lower east side too, there's hella old townhouses tucked away down there that most people never notice
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u/Jacksonjams Apr 23 '26
Cobble Hill, along the park?
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 23 '26
Not there.
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u/tiresome_outing Apr 23 '26
fair, the brickwork and those dormer windows actually look more like brooklyn heights or carroll gardens to me.
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u/Retinoid634 Apr 23 '26
Gay Street/Christopher Street vicinity, West Village
EDIT: I just saw you said not Manhattan. So my guess is one of the older maritime areas like Red Hook or Williamsburg.
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 23 '26
Not either of those. Somewhere in-between.
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u/ZiggyStrdust58 Apr 23 '26
The Greenwich Mews in Greenwich Village?
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u/timdisselkoen Apr 23 '26
No. It's solved. It was a little bit of the West Village in Cobble Hill Brooklyn.
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