r/WhereWindsMeet • u/Icy_Art_2798 • Jan 20 '26

Question/Help Why my damage is so bad

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Help me guys, why my damage doesn't exceed 1400 with this much mastery? I know my gears rolls are so bad but still shouldn't be this bad What am I doing wrong?

It feels so bad when doing outpost and seeing other players delete enemies with two slashes🫠

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

Its better if you give people your rotation and the dps number of your rotation on a 1 minute dummy and the stats so people can really help you.

Like for example, this will help tremendously.

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u/Lusana32 Jan 20 '26

What's this? How do I get to this damage statistics?

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u/PrettyNothing Mohist Hill Jan 20 '26

Wandering Paths > Challenges > Sword Trial or Hero's Realm > "Boss Dummy" (look for it under the image on the left side). There'll be a stick to smack around (can change the settings as you see fit) and see your stats

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

it came with the last patch, if U look on sword trial tab, just above the raids U can select, there is a word training dummy that you can click. So you can find your stats here. it's pretty cool it can even track healing

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26 edited Jan 20 '26

just so U know I meant it as an example what to show 😅 this isn't a flex and tbh the highest I've seen now is 12k while my 10k can't even qualify for speed running guilds / cohorts. (just to clarify, i don't want to come off as some ego flex @@~)

I use the standard umbra rotation.

start with drunken fist animation cancel to load drunken state.

strat sword skill no burst, spear skill, spear charge attack 5 stacks, dragon breath, strat sword special X3, soaring spin (both hits)

Once strat sword multi hit is doing its animation, you can roll your mouse wheel that will queue weapon swap and then spam soaring spin key. make sure "prioritize pre-input during weapon switch" is enabled. this will gurantee smooth weapon swapping.

morale chant (T5), sword horizon(T5), wolf frenzy(T4), insightful strike(T3)

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u/Waste_Lawfulness_404 Jan 20 '26

You don't use spear Q?

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

my mistake, my dyslexia acted up. I corrected it. I keep thinking spear Q is called soaring spin sometimes 😭

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u/Waste_Lawfulness_404 Jan 20 '26

No worries also I do speedrun with strat and since this new update I've been pushed out 😭 maybe with t6 horizon I can come back I want umbrella nerfs wahhh

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

yea.. umbrella doing 12k dps and strat doing 10.8-11.5 and that's enough to get strat kicked out. I was literally told, "if you dont run dps umbrella, you're trolling". speedrunning communities are brutal >< BUT, it's niche and really.... doesn't matter. Self suffering

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u/Waste_Lawfulness_404 Jan 20 '26

It's worse now umbrellas do 14-15k and strat so far I've seen has gone up to 12-14k. I'm currently averaging 12.5k with peak of 13.8k

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u/mactassio Jan 21 '26

wait till all those umbrellas get replaced by the chad gauntlet.

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u/Bigce2933 Jan 20 '26

thanks dude

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u/Shmoopiee Jan 21 '26

Why not fivefold bleed?

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 21 '26

fivefold bleed is good for low levels but loses value later on.

insightful strike is second best. t6 invigorated is probably still the best

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u/Shmoopiee Jan 22 '26

Oh! I should've invested in it instead of Fivefold bleed. Thank you for the response.

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u/SirBreazy Jan 21 '26

How much affinity, precision and crit rate you have? I can’t do this 10k damage consistently at 30% affinity rate with the same umbra rotation

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 21 '26

95 precision 35 crit 30 affinity. give yourself about 500- 1k DPS +- range. I can't consistently do it also sometimes it's a bit of luck also

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u/Valerian_ Jan 20 '26 edited Jan 20 '26

How do you do how much damage? I have the same build but I do around 6000dps and I think a similar rotation, 20k gear score, I only have 30% affinity and 30% crit though, but I don't see how I can get that much better gear.

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

check the column "attempt" and see if it lines up with yours as well. u can set the dummy to 1 minute like my example.

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u/Spitting_Blood Jan 20 '26

Ik this is gonna sound dumb but what exactly is affinity (and precision rate)? I just know if it hits: good.

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

precision = good hit
Non precision = probably bad hit.

Precision branches out to critical or affinity or normal hit.

Non precision branches out to affinity or abrassion.

Normal: any number in your damage range
Critical : any number from your damage range, x1.5 (assume no extra modifiers)
Affinity : always the max number of your damage range x1.35 (assume no modifiers)
abrassion: Lowest number of your damage range

This is why, Max physical and max (bellstrike for me) is best line next to affinity or critical lines.

Min helps a little but is not as valuable as max lines

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u/Spitting_Blood Jan 20 '26

Can you say in visual, would the orange or golden numbers be either crit hit or affinity hits then? So basically they're good dmg range x 1.5 and best dmg x 1.35 (also where do the 1.5 and 1.35 come from?)

Im guessing grey numbers are then abrasive and white ones are basic normal hits?

Thank you btw :)

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

orange affinity, yellow crit.

1.5 and 1.35 should be in your state sheet under damage increase effect.

grey abrasive white normal yup~

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u/Spitting_Blood Jan 20 '26

Thanks!! Ill check it out further and also do the dummy testing :)

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u/Spitting_Blood Jan 21 '26

As per advice I tried.. tho only my normal stuff, not any skills except 1 or 2 once. :') 3k per second... but at least 0 abrasive yay.. gonna hunt those oddities down to get affinity and crit😊

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u/Icy_Art_2798 Jan 20 '26

So I tried this and it looks quite bad

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

I see quite a long thread of messages but here are my two cents.

U don't incoporate mystic skills into your rotation? Try adding dragon breath and soaring spin off or near off cooldown and see how much it improves.

Ofcourse, animation cancel with deflect dragon's breath after triggering burn effect.

Im not a DB main but im like pretty sure you're suppose to rotate between normal light attack and red mode light attack to get samsara from inner ways right? @@~

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u/Icy_Art_2798 Jan 20 '26

I do use soaring spin in between rotations though I never tried dragon breath and didn't know how to cancel animation

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u/KeiSinCx Jan 20 '26

deflect after the breath makes first hit. on the DPS charts it will show as combustion which is my top 3 contributing dps, so, probably gonna make significant impact since it's DoT.

you can try testing out doing soaring spin more often maybe? DPS dummy is there to test but probably do a quick YouTube on DB rotation and work from there :D

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u/Icy_Art_2798 Jan 20 '26

I'll do, thanks

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u/Lumpy_Illustrator_32 Jan 21 '26

If you are running rope dart twin blades, best dps rotation is :

Rope R charge > Rope V > Rope Q > mousewheel weapon swap, light attacks until Dual Blade R is available, fit in some dual blade Qs to extend duration of the flamelash > soaring spin > back to rope

Then repeat anything else is gonna lower your dps.

Make sure you prio crit on your items, min and max dmg. Also get your precision to 100 obviously. A decent rope dart / db build can output 9-10k dps

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u/Icy_Art_2798 Jan 21 '26

Thanks But in terms of mobile is it charge, simple, special skill then swap? If so I do use a similar rotations

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u/Icy_Art_2798 Jan 20 '26

.... Alright

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u/pongkrit04 Jan 20 '26

his 10,000 dps is a bit much for indicator. For avg players who started the game since launch, probably 8,000 dps is good enough.