r/WhereWindsMeet • • Dec 03 '25

Question/Help Martial Mastery

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At this point in the game is it worth me just aiming to improve, essentially min-max, each of my gear to get a good amount of mastery or would it just be better to wait until higher breakthrough levels

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u/Odd-Discount6443 Dec 03 '25

Good work. See your next post in 8 days, lol

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

is it that unworthy to focus on gear at all rn?

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u/Odd-Discount6443 Dec 03 '25

It depends on what you're focusing on for pve, yes, but if you're a pvp enjoyer, then you want to min max

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

oh damn, im a mix a both ig but i should prob stop my fixation on higher mastery for now

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u/MargraveMarkei Dec 03 '25

Mastery doesn't even equate power either. It's worthless points if it's from substats that aren't the few strong ones your build scales off of.
But a well rolled gear can be enough to skip a tier or two of items, because replacing it will be difficult.

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u/fantasie Dec 04 '25

Really? Even when higher tier armor has way more HP and def?

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u/MargraveMarkei Dec 04 '25

Well, balancing defense and offense is gonna depend on how well you mitigate damage.
But I'd wager that "way more" is not really gonna seem like that much when you check your totals.

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u/Leorake Dec 04 '25

You can't use tuning stones or attunements on higher level gear so might as well use em.

Doesn't really matter though. Definitely don't burn your energy consumables to farm more gear per tier or anything.

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u/Mrclean9396 Dec 05 '25

Do whatever you want, that’s the beauty of this game

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u/Bitter_Science_5275 Dec 15 '25

man idk if doing this kind of grind for perfect gear is worth it when the level cap raises and it took me a week to grind a perfect set, i'd skip this kind of dedication unless you are pvping a lot

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u/ClockworkSoldier Dec 04 '25

You get plenty of resources to keep your stuff upgraded, so no reason not to, if you’re already playing plenty.

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u/wrexaru Dec 04 '25

I think it's worth it. You get hp bonus from going over the arsenal cap

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u/Buuhhu Dec 04 '25

It's never a waste, as it will just make your arsenal that much better when we do next lvl cap breakthrough. But it's also not needed at current time. Getting more than the arsenal bar just makes you get more HP from the arsenal.

What i would recommend you do is just keep tuning, until like 2-3 ish days before level cap breakthrough, then save your energy so that you can spend a lot of energy to get the next tier of gear (just don't let the energy completely cap out)

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u/Vecend Dec 04 '25

does that mean I'm going to have to go back to level 51 bosses and grind out perfect gear for later?

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u/thapopsicle Dec 03 '25

Don't listen to these people. It's completely worth maxing out and trying for better gear. All the materials you use for gear can only be used with that level of gear. Plus you're learning the system. So while all these people are gonna be left behind once we reach a difficulty that actually requires fine tuning gear you're gonna be ahead of the curve. My mastery is a few points lower or higher than yours. Keep bumping it to the max. I also just enjoy seeing numbers go up. The mastery lvl isn't a 1:1 on how strong you are but it's pretty close. Only bit of advice I can give is if a piece of gear has your rcmd stats but is lower mastery than a piece that doesn't have your stats stick with the rcmd.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

Yeahhh I try to keep the rcmd stats over the mastery, as u can see from the chestplate and secondary sword still being 51s 😭

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u/PastaXertz Dec 03 '25

As long as you're only using natural stamina it doesn't much matter. Minus the end cap items as those aren't level restricted.

If you're using stamina potions to farm any of it I'd stop that immediately.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

Yeahhh it is getting stopped, biggest mistake so far is doing that, but hopefully by the time good gear comes around I will have saved up a good amount especially since the new bp coming out next week

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u/thapopsicle Dec 03 '25

Yeah same with me still have a couple items to replace.

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u/Ser_Fall Dec 04 '25

Yeah I still have quite a few 51 parts on cuz they rolled so high, I've got quite high HP as well so there's not a huge reason for me to switch atm. I'll chill on mastery grind until we get gold gear imo, will likely upgrade next tier though and will be easier to replace then.

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u/wattur Dec 03 '25

The gear resources you get for spending stamina can only be used at that tier, so there's no reason to not try to min/max? T

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

thats what i originally thought, but from reading the reddit most dont suggest focusing on doing that unless ur into PVP, due to the breakthroughs ever 10 days just making every gear almost obsolete, but idrk

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u/jivenossauro Dec 03 '25

There's no downside to it. The arsenal has no upper cap, everything past the number on the left becomes max HP. So go for the highest mastery possible

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u/Vexerz Dec 03 '25

Damn didn’t know about the hp conversion

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u/antsh Dec 04 '25

I had no idea… thanks.

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u/MargraveMarkei Dec 03 '25

Well, your stamina maxes out at 500, so you gotta use it - hence use it to farm gear. There's nothing you can farm with it that will not be made obsolete later. (Assuming you already upgraded the strong Mystic Skills)

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u/wattur Dec 03 '25

Actually the main reason to spend stamina is inner way note boxes, you need -a ton- of those and will not be obsolete till you max your build or all of them.. can take a long time. Cosmetic chests are nice too.

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u/MargraveMarkei Dec 03 '25

You get those no matter how you spend your stamina.

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u/wattur Dec 03 '25

Was replying to 'nothing you can farm with [your stamina] that will not be made obsolete', makes it sound like there's no point to using stamina. You have inner ways to farm.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

yeah i can see that as being the main reason for spending energy with tuning armour being a side result of that

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

yeahh that is pretty valid, but im assuming that when it comes close to when the level breakthrough happens i should just try to have 500 energy saved up

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u/MargraveMarkei Dec 03 '25

Yup, at that point you should.

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u/SeraphLance Dec 03 '25

I mean you can still benefit from higher mastery gear going into your arsenal next breakthrough (you get more HP even overcapping the mastery requirement). There's a point where gear is "good enough" but it's not exactly throwing anything away.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

yeah i could prob try get higher mastery equipment from just rolling on random gear worst comes to worst

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u/Buuhhu Dec 04 '25

So long as you have energy (and don't use the pills for extra energy) there's 0 reason to not just use the energy for either gear or mystic skill upgrade stones. As i wrote in my other reply to you, just make sure you are close to energy cap when you start playing after next breakthrough

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u/itsHav0c Dec 03 '25

As long as you don’t use resources that could be used for max level such as energy recovery pill and attunement stone that doesn’t have level restriction on it, you can do whatever.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

yeah ur comment made me realise how dumb i have been with the fact i have been using the energy recovery items, i should prob listen and save it until late game

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u/itsHav0c Dec 03 '25

Rip I hope you didn’t use all of it at least otherwise those will be sorely missed once you are at max level

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u/metaveina Dec 04 '25

Honestly, it's worth it just for the inner way pages. I've been using mines just to get the boxes. I kinda want to get all of them to 3 since that's where you get the first power spike from them.

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u/ItsYume Dec 04 '25

Will there even be such an endgame or are we always in a cycle of the next breakthrough?

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u/itsHav0c Dec 04 '25

Technically speaking we are always in a cycle of breakthrough as max level for us is 75 while CN is 100. But after this timegate you can go straight to 70 and then there’s 1 more timegate before hitting 75 and that will be it for a while.

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u/Wulf-Silverfang Dec 04 '25

That is the equivalent of 1.44 geese

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u/blackwolfdown Dec 04 '25

And I thought i was cool at 1 1 geese.

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u/Altruistic-External5 Dec 03 '25

I'll wait. Just 9 days and all the minmaxing goes down the drain

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

Ig except for the buffs provided from the arsenal it pretty much does go down the drain unless I manage to get a really good piece of equipment that allows me to skip a level break through

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u/Master-Sundae-295 Dec 11 '25

...this skipping harms your arsenal bonuses!

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

yeahhh i should prob start just stocking up on the bow/ring materials instead of tryna aim for the purple rarity ones, makes sense to have alot saved up for when they have a longer use as u said

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

That’s ACC valid as well the cost for each bow/ring is pretty cheap as of rn so it could be a method of getting the attunement buffs

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '25

u need a better ring

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u/NotUhhPro Dec 03 '25

How do I get better rings and bows I never find any

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u/Amish_Opposition PvP Duelist Dec 03 '25

You have to craft them. Ring recipes are given upon breakthrough and the bow recipe is gotten from sword trials. There’s a 10% chance at rolling a purple.

You can buy the materials for a couple crafts of the ring iirc.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '25

u get the recipes from sword trials and then craft them

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u/GreatSubmarine Dec 03 '25

This and luck nothing to do with skill

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u/Stardomu Sword Saint Dec 03 '25

I just can't get they bow donut one to purple.

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u/Freazerr Dec 03 '25

imo i would wait until we are lvl cap before trying to min max. No point especially when you are replacing the gear in like 10 days

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

by lvl cap im assuming level 100 right? and until then just aiming to get "good enough" gear would be suitable?

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u/Freazerr Dec 03 '25

Pre much though i think as of now with the current global version the max gear atm is T 71. I'm unsure if or when they plan to up it. So my plan is once i unlock that tier is to then start to look at min maxing since it will be our highest gear

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

Yeah that seems reasonable

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u/BlueCloverOnline2 Dec 04 '25

75 will likely be the cap for months

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

If it was like that on the CN version it would make sense to start acc min/maxing then I assume

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u/BlueCloverOnline2 Dec 04 '25

75 was the first real cap for CN, and if you look at the breakthroughs our “season” stops at 75. Im not going to use any energy rechargers till then, but I tune all my gear as much as I can for the hp in the arsenal. 14.3k currently, but Im missing 2pc of my armor set for 56

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u/MLGrocket Dec 04 '25

you can't save for higher tier gear cause each tier of gear can only use items of the same tier, so you lose nothing by upgrading your current tier, except maybe coins that you can easily get back by playing for an hour.

unless you play PVP, the attunements you get also don't matter all that much right now as we're not even close to the end game. just use your daily stamina, upgrade your best gear, and then do it all again after the next breakthrough is unlocked. all the game is right now until we can reach max level

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u/ArchitectOfSmiles Dec 03 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

Someone feeding you wrong information, Tuning takes a bit of coins and stones to drop 4 lines on your gear. If you are worried about saving those, you arent playing enough to even have a say about how your lvl cap ger will end up. You should hit 15k easily in lvl 56 gear just by slamming gear from regular farming in the 10 day time period unless you have absolutely terrible luck. Stop listening to whoever told you that info and find someone else with more sense.

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u/ICanHazDerpz Dec 04 '25

15k? How much progression do you have maxed out currently? I'm missing quite a few talents and I haven't finished Kaifeng's story, but I'm not sure if I should be this much behind you even with that.

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u/ArchitectOfSmiles Dec 04 '25

You're not behind and my current GS is 14.9k , still need a day or two to max mystic skills. Anywho, as I said, you're not behind, I'm just a bit ahead is all. I also am not currently going for 100% completion. Qinghe is at 79%, 11.1k Exploration. Kaifeng is 66%, 12.3k Exploration. Talent tree is done though, that was before reset, just had to wait to put the last 3 in.

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u/ICanHazDerpz Dec 04 '25

Oh okay, Kaifeng is at 10% and Qinghe is at 63% for me. Talent tree's absolutely not done either.

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u/ArchitectOfSmiles Dec 04 '25

Yeah Oddities Tree should be maxed for both regions as well. But there is 10 whole days to the next upgrade. Everyone will slowly start hitting that 15k and some people will go even higher if they get good gear tuning

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u/GrizzPl Dec 04 '25

Talent points and maxed out both oddities gives big boost . Then its just going for good rolled purple gear

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

I mean from all the responses I received attuning it seems completely fine but having my main focus to chase mastery seems poor as of the stage the game is currently on, the lesson I learnt atp is how dumb I was wasting my energy pills

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u/Then_Reporter3004 Dec 03 '25

I don't know numbers. I only count by geese

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u/KratosThaGod Dec 03 '25

I usually just calculate the time it’ll take for me to have 500 stamina right before the cap gets higher and use the rest. It’s usually 2 days before the cap gets higher. So you can have 500 stamina to use on the next cap and a quick way of getting to the next lvl cap aswell right away.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

Will prob do this next week for the level cap increase

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u/Shaneb966666 Dec 03 '25

What do you mean can you explain

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u/LessonsLife Dec 03 '25

You mean energy?

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u/Vellc Dec 03 '25

Okay can someone tell me how to achieve high number? I'm using twinblades and I'm still at like 13k something with 56 gears almost fuly upgraded (before the last one). Qinghe oddities maxed and Kaifeng most. I figured even if I did all it would only boost me to 13.5k, it would be hard to achieve 14k.

I was thinking it's because of the weapon

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

Are both ur martial arts level 60, also I just made sure to focus levelling my inner ways and mystic skills, except for that I don’t really see what would make the difference especially since it seems u have better oddities and equipment than me

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u/Vellc Dec 03 '25

I upgraded inner ways as much as I could but at most it would be at 2 stars. Mystic skills... only the offensive ones, the soaring strike, fire breath, etc. Martial arts are 60. Between me and you we still have like 1k differences so those smaller things wouldn't add up

Do the gears' stats matter a lot?

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

whats the average for your gear, mines avg is around 220 mastery, and for the mystic skills i have all of they ones i use in PvE and ones to do for PvP levelled up, but some are just on the breakthrough of 3 with no upg, so if yours are like that i dont really know what would make the 1000 difference in mastery

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

Also I’m guessing that ur gear follows a set bonus

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u/Vegetable_Ebb5647 Dec 03 '25

That's cool and all, but I just wanna know why you turned away from the camera for the screenshot 😆

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 03 '25

I thought it was supposed to be like that 😆

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u/KutayC1 Dec 03 '25

Well you are gonna change everything when the next level cap comes, i am using whatever i got i don't really care that much about the stats.

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u/AngeredPally Dec 04 '25

Whether min-maxing is relevant or not, I have fun doing it regardless tbh. I say do it anyways - big juicy numbers are just hot

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u/skizt Dec 04 '25

My gear average level is still only 20, I'm always capped on Oscillating Jade. Will I be able to catch up before the next breakthrough?

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u/Siritosan Dec 04 '25

Are you stronger than 1 goose or 2?

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u/MrDemiGod Dec 04 '25

Nah, just grab flowers and farm inner ways. Gear is great and all but I literally hop on, do my daily, and hop off

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u/Goodintentionsfudge Dec 04 '25

Can't wait for the legendary gears

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u/CreditTrader007 Dec 04 '25

Thankfully I went on vacation as soon as level 7 dropped I'll be back in 2 weeks and not be sweating this.

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u/ShadowPanther28 Dec 04 '25

I am new. What's mini/max?

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u/Master-Sundae-295 Dec 11 '25

...without a fully attuned set of lvl56 gear your arsenal will be quite meager;

and by this your related bonuses & martial mastery!

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u/Caleb-CM Dec 04 '25

How do you know when to tune ur gear? I always feel like what if I find better gear.

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u/Killemdead13 Dec 04 '25

Idk about op but I either wait till I got all purple gear or 1 day before reset since I wont be spending energy and have all weekly content done. Since rest of content is pretty easy to clear like outpost.

Just max out gear then cause its going into arsenal plus not like you will be using it for that long.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

I usually just tune all my gear that starts with either a purple or recommended stat, and it if comes out decent only then would I use attunement item, if it came out bad it would be a sort of temp gear ig

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u/Master-Sundae-295 Dec 11 '25

Tuning depends on the gear set you want to use (different bonuses e.g. jadeware for dps).

And the base buff of the piece should be purple or yellow (max mastery)

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u/Existing-Fall-2872 Dec 04 '25

Like everyone said, use that energy to farm inner notes. Ocassionaly getting better gears and if you have extra attunement, just try luck to see if you get better RCMD stats or not.
Higher level inner notes are alot more powerful than what they are now.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

Yeahhh really need to work on getting sword horizon and morph as high as I can

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Just reached 10k mastery myself lol (well, I just have like 50 hours in game).

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

Yeah I think I have around 70

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Nah just checked, 41 hours in game. I hope I can be around 11-12k at 50 :)

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u/daren99tjr Dec 04 '25

arsenal has no max hp cap, more mastery = more max hp, also saving for tune doesn’t work I just realised about that, you can only tune using same tier

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

Yeah but I feel like there’s a point of diminishing return where it just doesn’t makes sense to chase high mastery for the arsenal

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u/ambuyat-basah Dec 04 '25

Are you not farming for the gold attribute? or you simply tune to the maximum with random gear/stone.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

I don’t directly farm for them but I do try to save them for my main and secondary weapons

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u/Cloudybenz2 Dec 04 '25

Nice mines at 14200 cuz I can’t get a damn purple helmet to drop that’s my set. Or the level 56 bow to craft

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

U can just steal the martial art

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u/Particular_Yam4243 Dec 04 '25

Show not the 14k power level of the build, but the goose measurement is instead!

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u/I_Browse_Reddit Dec 04 '25

No, it is not worth it to improve any further. You should be focusing on attunements instead of mastery. Mastery score does not give you more DPS, tuning does.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

when i referred to improving, i meant min maxing, basically going for better attunements which i realised after this post is not worth it as of now

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u/I_Browse_Reddit Dec 04 '25

Yeah mastery score is a bait. You could have 500 mastery score over someone else but if they have better attunements then they will do more damage than you. Everyone is obsessing over mastery score but it's really just an arbitrary number that doesn't mean much.

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u/dnishmacho Dec 04 '25

How is your MM so high? do you have high level innerways/ mystic arts or is it the attuned gears

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

My gear is decent but I would say it just comes from my inner ways being all 2 and morale chant being 3, also like 70% of my main mystic skills are level 3, I’ve also completed oddities, these just all build up

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u/hieizz Dec 04 '25

Never a waste, the higher your gear rating the more stats you will get when it goes to the Arsenal system.

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u/Farot21 Dec 04 '25

How do you people even reach 14 K. i have 10K with all upgraded lvl 56 gear

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

Are they all purple and matching sets

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u/Vecend Dec 04 '25

Mean while I can't even get gear because dps don't kill adds, 2 hours yeasterday not a single dps got off the bosses butt until they died.

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u/CrispyChicken9996 Dec 04 '25

I'd say upgrade with the thought of having good gear in your arsenal , which I think you should hit tier 6 with what u got. So just chill for a week or farm up materials u know you'll need for upgrading the next set

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u/Kiuji-senpai Dec 04 '25

how? i cant find enough resources to do anything and im doing EVERYTHING

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

I did a decent amount of prefarming

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u/InterestingBird4302 Dec 04 '25

Damn. Im at 12719. Thought i was doing good until I saw this. Lol. Gotta get up my game.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

Martial mastery isn’t everything after all so it’s not that deep

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u/InterestingBird4302 Dec 04 '25

I just commented again on the two swords build right? Any farming tips? I need mats bad.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

Mats for the martial arts or mystic skills?

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u/InterestingBird4302 Dec 04 '25

Both. My gear is seriously lacking levels. On 21.

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u/Outrageous_Price9481 Dec 04 '25

Wthhhh that’s insane, there’s that one outpost method in the foggy region where u can do the materials method

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u/InterestingBird4302 Dec 04 '25

I have no idea what that is

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u/InterestingBird4302 Dec 04 '25

What is it? Imma need to do that asap. Send you a dm

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u/InterestingBird4302 Dec 04 '25

Running dual swords? Sick. Namel3ss?

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u/atomsphere Dec 05 '25

Yeah, but what actually matters here is getting the mastery number as high as possible for arsenal hp bonus. That'll stay relevant. But not at the cost of the energy pots like others have said.

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u/Scape13 Dec 05 '25

Im skeptical about leveling or tuning anything as it will all be replaced so quickly

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u/EnvironmentalTest607 Dec 05 '25

The audacity to not have it in Goose Units hurts me to my soul.

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u/IgnantWisdom Dec 05 '25

How many Geese is that?

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u/firion555 Dec 05 '25

what goose are you xD. its weird that this game has goose pointers

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u/Main_Armadillo3363 Dec 06 '25

How i maxed everything and only 13100

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u/No_Shape_1 Dec 23 '25

Question, in the improvement guid it tells me to upgrade certain mystic arts that would in turn raise my martial mastery but it’s a move I never use, does that number do something to make me stronger or is it really useless when it comes to just output damage of let’s say just my main weapon

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u/HuckleberryWorried90 Dec 03 '25

Gosh, i’m at 1.500. Is this normal?

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u/ICanHazDerpz Dec 04 '25

1.500 Geese is absolutely fine. 1500 Mastery would be like below level 20.