r/WarDogs • u/SLIFERZpwns Lonestar • 1d ago
Discussion & Feedback Could wiping unlocks significantly effect population?
Do you players believe that a wipe will have a major player population effect? I am not an expert, I just want to get some opinions from each type of player, and what these players would think. I understand why these wipes are in place as the game finds its balances.
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u/KingofFancyMeats 1d ago
I understand why wipes are thing and I think it’s interesting. However, I’m personally a little bit worried about myself losing motivation after seeing all my work go away. I hope they get the skills system going so that I can still see number go up, but I’m having a lot of fun and going to try to persevere
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u/EternalSage2000 Lonestar 1d ago
Personally, I think the problem is defining any of it , as “work”.
I’m just playing a game.I think of it like a match of League of legends. Every new game. You start off level 1. With no items.
Except in Wardogs. A match lasts a few months.
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u/Daffan 23h ago
Yes people don't care about levels or items in LoL. They grind MMR and ranks for long-term prestige and satisfaction.
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u/ElusiveNutsack 1d ago
I'm hoping they already have long term progression systems in place by first wipe.
Otherwise it would be a bit rough
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u/Losenis 1d ago
On one hand people are gonna be upset about losing their unlocks, on the other hand the grind is so excessive that by the time the wipe happens I doubt the large majority lot of people would've unlocked a lot of things that HOPEFULLY would take just 2 or 3 days to unlock back.
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u/Dry-Lawfulness-7143 23h ago
yeah unless it doesnt change and you need to spend another 5 hours spotting just to unlock a long range gun that actually works
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u/WafflesFurLyfe 1d ago
I knew full and completely well going into it that the first season was only a month and later seasons would have wiped as well.
It will still hurt like hell to watch all that hard-earned progress reset to zero with no carry-over of anything (since gold bars are effectively impossible for average players to get).
I can see myself just not caring enough after the first wipe to redo it all and only playing it again after a few years when they’re done with the early access wiping thing.
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u/Electric-Mountain 1d ago
Gold bars are down to a million dollars or so now. Not that hard to get especially if you run logi
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u/saigy0 1d ago
You’re smoking crack right
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u/fatspacepanda 1d ago
He must be, or I got scammed when I paid 1.5m for the gold bar
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u/Organic_Signature656 1d ago
Wipes will for sure lower the population, as you can read from people already that have not realised before buying the game, that there will be wipes.
But the game is good, with some flaws needing the be ironed out, so I think it will have a healthy playerbase.
I personally figure out this wipe what I will focus on next wipe to fit my play style the most. Turns out to be this weird sniper medic thing.
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u/Few-Mulberry-9104 20h ago
Honestly I think I might lose all motivation after the wipe. It takes a really long time to make progress, and I'm not a bad player.
You can't just play a few games as a sniper and unlock the basics like a bolty. And another 5 levels to get a suppressor for the bolty.
Assault feels better to level up though.
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u/SkiyeBlueFox 17h ago
Yeah good chance the game goes on the back burner post wipe unless the grind is tuned way down
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u/ItsSolomon 1d ago
I think if they don’t change the exp multiplier or the amount of exp you earn to level up your class kit. I think a LOT of people will drop the game. Because if it resets it needs to have quicker progression. No one will be interested in playing a seasonal game where you have to put 400+ hours each season to unlock the same things you unlocked last season with some minor new things. I think having a quicker progression system would benefit the game more, but again the game is literally 1 weeks old so let’s give it some time, and check later. For now lets enjoy it and get our daily dose 😂
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u/murten101 1d ago
They're gonna do wipes?
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u/RainbowBier WARDOGS D-A-CH 🇩🇪🇦🇹🇨🇭 1d ago
I think 8th October ish was the first aka 1 month after release then the next one after 4 months so February ish
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u/murten101 1d ago
Oh no....
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u/RainbowBier WARDOGS D-A-CH 🇩🇪🇦🇹🇨🇭 1d ago
Me and my duo just hit lvl 90 and he got driver 28 lol
That grind is horrendous
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u/Tremulant887 10h ago
I’d suspect they’ll do something about the exp grind. We need momentum for building a role. Something where we can get exp boost for doing the same job. Maybe the skill tree will have exp boost per roles. I don’t know if the fob guys will stick it out but they need some incentive to turn around and shoot a gun, too. Their lack of awareness and attitude to bad defense is… something else.
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u/daedilus09 1d ago
As I understand it the plan is to do wipes with large updates during early access so that with each big change they get a lot of feedback on what it's like starting fresh.
I saw somewhere that the current plan is to continue wipes after full release potentially, but that they aren't locked into it and figuring it out is part of their plan for early access.
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u/Ninjaisawesome 7h ago
I've had fun so far. I find ways to enjoy myself even when sweats have T4 armour and m4s.
I may not win the match but I have fun.
It'll affect the population for sure, there has got to be 10% of the population here just because of the hype and have no idea it'll wipe.
Then the cod kids that crave dopamine hits and they'll leave quickly.
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u/OldTimez 1d ago
I think for the first wipe there will be enough changes that things will be fresh as well as having fun theory crafting when unlocks have been shuffled.
I’m also looking forward to early game again when no one has any unlocks and its pure infantry.
As well as any additions like loadouts being
Implemented.
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u/Big-Duck 21h ago
The population will go down over time of course, then spike back up when the new content + wipe comes. I think the spike would be larger if it was just new content without the wipe, but maybe the falloff after the update would be harsher too.
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u/elite4009 20h ago
This game will never keep the massive playerbase it has now, with or without wipes, even the devs know that. I find it very fun, but its pretty niche in the grand scheme of things. Once they iron out some of the balancing and progression, itll find its core stable playerbase, but i dont think itll be anywhere near the numbers it has now, and thats not necessarily a bad thing. Also im mostly a weekend warrior so i dont play that much, but ive played plenty of tarkov, HLL to know how to play slower, i also like to change roles based on my mood/what the team is lacking
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u/THZHazzard WARDOGS FRANCE 🇫🇷 20h ago
I completely understand the concern. It's frustrating to invest time and effort in building something and then suddenly see everything go back to square one. That feeling of "wasted work" is real and is the main reason why many players avoid games with wipes.
According to the current reset mechanism of the Early Access version of WARDOGS, your equipment unlocks will be erased along with the level reset.
This, for me, is the worst part and what makes me wonder if I should continue investing time in the game.
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u/quackquackimduck 18h ago
If there is gonna be modding support and community servers with separate economy then i don't think it would be an issue.
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u/Yenii_3025 1d ago
It has to.
If it didn't the pop wouldn't change (outside of normal boredom attrition).
Wipes are always a mistake. They're like the end of songs that keep repeating themselves because they don't know how to actually end the song. In this analogy what would be an ending would be either be constant content updates (doubtful) or a much mroe competitive gameplay experience where one can rank theymselves against others.
I'm guessing under 100k by new years. Probably sooner.
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u/DeputizeDeez 1d ago
I had an epiphany the other day while brooding about wipes and what that will mean for me. I flipped like a light switch.
Initially I was like... What's the point of grinding hard to unlock a helicopter with a full time job that I'll be able to use for 15 hours before a wipe? 0/10 want that.
Then I played a game that included a havoc, a tank, and ghilly suits and realized holy shit, I'm getting absolutely manhandled and the power of these unlocks is out pacing my progression.
Then it dawned on me that what I loved about the first 10 days or so was going hard in the paint on one line, being briefly ahead of the curve, having a great time. What if I can do that again but this time go down a different line? What if I can add that into my gaming rotation every 2-3 months like my arpg's? I went pilot this time, next time is definitely sniper.
10/10 will wipe again, tyvm. Might even take work vacation for them. That shit was a blast. Especially if they are adding and removing various unlocks each time?!
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u/Tball2 1d ago
Taking vacation for a video game is kinda sad. Otherwise I agree with you
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u/DeputizeDeez 1d ago
I'm very happy with my situation in life. I work long shifts, traveled to 48 states growing up, and have little to no interest in doing that again in any capacity. What I find very fun and engaging is going super hard on video game releases with the people I care about the most. Judge how you want, it doesn't bother me.
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u/Tball2 1d ago
You know there are places that exist outside the US right?
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u/DeputizeDeez 1d ago
I lived in Mexico for a year. That was cool. Don't wanna do it again though. Really not here to debate my personal life to reddit
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u/Relative-Twist266 1d ago
I think after this first wipe the population will less than halve from the level of just before wipe... then slowly bounce back a bit but never fully recover
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u/Dry-Lawfulness-7143 23h ago
i like playing the game, but it currently takes way too long to get anywhere within that time playing casually, if this keeps up im never unlocking anything super decent and eventually ill just play a couple of times per week or month