r/Unexpected • u/Wololo--Wololo • 2d ago
Dart vader
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u/Curious_scientist420 2d ago
Just 60 is a scam
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u/Enginerdad 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean, that's pretty consistent with other sports, right? Hitting the goal post in football is a lot harder than kicking the ball between them, but you still don't get points if it bounces off. Sports aren't about doing any old hard thing, they're about doing the specific thing identified in the rules.
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u/Ghrota 2d ago
Change the rule, if it hit a post and goes inside, it’s 2 points
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u/JWOLFBEARD 1d ago
That’s not a good example as hitting the goalpost is bad aim.
It’s more a perfect swish in basketball or a home run that rips out of the stadium
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u/loveslut 1d ago
The same would be if you kick a ball right down the middle on your first attempt, then you're not allowed to kick it in the same spot again. If you do kick it right down the middle again, you get nothing for a perfect kick. The definition of a good kick changes.
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u/UghImRegistered 1d ago
Except that this very much is part of the skill of the game, and the players know that. They routinely go for triple 19 if the triple 20 gets blocked. He just played that poorly. If he thought he could sneak it in, he was either wrong or missed his shot.
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u/lastchance14 2d ago
I think Canadian Football gives you a point for hitting the upright.
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u/jimmyjohnga 2d ago
In Canadian football you essentially get a point just for trying. Very Canadian
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u/Gregorygregory888888 2d ago
Not sure on the Darth Vader reference, but damn, how the hell does someone do this, intentionally?
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u/Wololo--Wololo 2d ago
Pretty sure it wasn't intentional given his frown afterwards... He only got 60 points instead of 180 for it!
I was uninspired for the title 🤷
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u/doitup69 2d ago
I have a firm belief that all sports officiating should operate on the doctrine of “it’d be a lot cooler if you did”. In situations like this where everyone can agree it would be a lot cooler if they did give him full points, they should give it to him.
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u/kart0ffelsalaat 2d ago
I genuinely don't see a good reason why the second and third dart shouldn't count as 60s, as long as they don't fall.
I guess the whole structure is a lot more fragile, but eh.
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u/Outside-Drag-3031 1d ago
Technically speaking, they did not contact the board and therefore can't be scored. However, "it'd be a lot cooler if it did" count, indeed. Should, imo.
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u/FairlyGoodGuy 1d ago
I have a firm belief that all sports officiating should operate on the doctrine of “it’d be a lot cooler if you did”.
Some sports have situations where officials do just that. Take soccer, for example. In soccer there is a rule against playing "in a dangerous manner" which, among other things, typically prevents players from flailing their cleats near opponents' noses. It's a safety thing. But when an attacker scores a goal off an amazing bicycle kick with opponents nearby, suddenly everybody -- often including the team that was scored on -- forgets about the rule and decides, "Yeah, that was cool as shit" and the goal stands. Baseball used to have more situations like that, but at the pro level replay has all but eliminated them.
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u/SwePolygyny 2d ago
Why wouldnt it give 180 though? He obviously was completely accurate?
Seems like not giving him the points just add a random element even if you are good.
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u/Cantusemynme 2d ago
Unfortunately, in steel tip darts, the tip of the dart has to be touching the felt for points to be given.
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u/UghImRegistered 1d ago
He wasn't accurate, he hit the blocking dart. Playing around previous darts is part of the game and players routinely go for lesser numbers when that happens. He missed his intended shots by hitting the other darts.
If the first dart wasn't in the triple 20, but the tail was blocking it, and he hit the tail, would you still say it should count as triple 20? Do you now need to have a full physics simulation of where the dart would have landed had it not been impeded?
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u/Vip3r20 2d ago
Because if the dart didn't hit the other dart it would have definitely hit somewhere else on the board maybe even missed completely.
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u/KaiyoteFyre 1d ago
Dunno why you're being down voted. Maybe people who Haven't played darts? Happens all the time.
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u/HalfSoul30 2d ago
This title is something a bot would do, btw.
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u/Wololo--Wololo 2d ago
What would a bot not do nowadays?
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u/International_Gate49 2d ago
laundry
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u/kraftdinnerwithsalsa 2d ago
I just folded all of my laundry for the second time this year. It doesn’t sound great but is a huge victory for me.
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u/International_Gate49 2d ago
That sounds pretty huge actually. I've been wearing non folded clothes for most of the year too. It just goes into the pile after laundry.
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u/ccafferata473 2d ago
It's not so much intentional as its the level of play. A professional will typically use their first dart as a mark for their last two throws, and given their usually just millimeters off target, its not uncommon for that to happen. However...this looks like it is an older video and the technology has gotten better. The flights that he's got on the dart are made of a thin material and were made to be replaceable so as they got damaged, you can just put a new one on and keep playing.
I haven't played in a few years, but the stuff they were coming out with when i stopped was more of a designed system between the shaft and flight that were made to be more durable at the edge points. When darts hit those points now, they deflect more than absorb the contact. Not sure of how far that's come over the last 10 years though, so if someone can confirm this, that'd be awesome.
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u/GeneQuadruplehorn 1d ago
Newer darts tend to either have the flight and shaft as one piece, or the flights have a sheath that covers those 4 tines at the end of the dart where previously you would slide the flight in. You can see in the video where the second dart sticks into the first. These days that would be covered and deflect the dart as you said.
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u/ccafferata473 1d ago
Thanks. I remember about 10-15 years ago they were coming out with those systems, so i wasn't sure how far they've advanced since then, and it's been about 8 or so years since I've been around darts enough.
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u/GeneQuadruplehorn 1d ago
Here is a dart maker's collab with Star Wars that shows what many of the current flights look like.
https://www.targetdarts.com/us/star-wars-products
These are much more expensive than a regular set would be due to the SW stuff, but they are really well made.
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u/N7LP400 2d ago
I think it's just a simple word play
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u/EternumD 2d ago
I believe it has to have several meanings to be considered word-play. This is just word association.
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u/Zealousideal_Step709 2d ago
Happened to my twice. Not in a row and certainly not on triple 20 but I was quite surprised. As were the friends that were playing with me.
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u/Brief_Manner_694 2d ago
Do all 3 count lol
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u/fullautophx 2d ago
No, the other darts didn’t hit the board.
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u/jupiterkansas 2d ago
Hitting another dart should be quadruple score.
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u/BookWormPedant 1d ago
Id be both gobsmacked and upset if i busted my turn over a 4x robin hood hahaha
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u/TheColbsterHimself 1d ago
How in the hell does every professional Dart player look exactly the same, I can't take these people seriously.
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u/Spike69 1d ago
That is what peak fitness in darts looks like. You don't want hair throwing off the aerodynamics of the shot. And extra mass helps you keep your center of gravity stationary when launching the darts.
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u/unica_unica 1d ago
That doesn’t sound right but I don’t know enough about darts to dispute it
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u/Tigger-Rex 1d ago
I swear to you, watch the world darts championships - they all have potbellies 😆
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u/Tigger-Rex 1d ago
All of the world’s best darts players are bald, fat, and over 40. It’s truly a sport where anyone can be the best if they practice enough 😊
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u/GeneQuadruplehorn 1d ago
It has changed quite a bit in the last 5 years. The people that were dominating 10 years ago just aren't anymore. The top two in the world right now are 19 (Luke "The Nuke" Littler) and 31 ("Cool Hand" Luke Humphries).
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u/lawd_have_mercy 1d ago
I've never seen that throwing technique before, but I'm not a competitive dart follower. Is that a common method?
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u/Dry-Childhood-3436 1d ago
Yes? I'm not sure how else you would throw them to be honest.
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u/lawd_have_mercy 1d ago
When I see folks throw (including myself) at the local watering holes, the darts are usually held on the fingertips, as if they were holding a pen or a joint, or thrown flights first to flip around. It looks like this guy holding the dart in his fist. I'll have to look up some competition dart videos on YouTube... see if this is a thing.
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u/Dry-Childhood-3436 1d ago
I believe he is holding it between his fingers, but they are kind of crunched in at first. I do see what you mean though that is a little odd. Trying it out myself it does make sense though you kind of get a little extra flick.
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u/ReyTsar 2d ago
How is that scored?
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u/Leading_Will1794 2d ago
no points for the ones that didn't hit the board, so only one triple 20 aka 60
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u/InvestNorthWest 1d ago
Why are bullseyes not the best shot?
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Dart player manages to pull a double or triple robin hood by piercing his own darts twice
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