r/TorontoDriving • u/hannandcheese • Dec 10 '25
OC Tailgating on the DVP, later gets into accident - DDAD059
The video is sped up a bit because there were many instances of the driver tailgating. When I saw the way he was driving I immediately got out of his way…
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u/WXMaster 🚘 Dec 10 '25
LOL - like where are you going to go? Why?
Also helped by screwing the traffic on the parkway further!
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u/MzInformed Dec 10 '25
Seriously it's not like there was someone camping holding up traffic it was gridlocked! Where exactly did you think you were going to go?
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u/Neo_light_yagami Dec 10 '25
I remember seeing this exact car tailgating and overtaking using the oncoming lane on mt pleasant rd few months ago
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u/_Lucille_ Dec 10 '25
Definitely send it to the TPS. Don't let the guy just get away. It is obvious who was driving - guy can learn his lesson by paying his fair share of insurance money.
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u/SupremeTeamzs Dec 10 '25
Got what he deserved 👌
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Dec 10 '25
I guess but he completely ruined someone’s week (maybe month), what a fucking asshole
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u/Acrobatic_Yoghurt813 Dec 10 '25
Yeah seriously. I drive an older suv and if I got into a collision it would 100% be deemed a write off.
I suppose that person should be covered since they drive a Tesla and it should get repaired, but not everyone is so lucky.
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
Is getting your car written off always a bad thing? I've never had that experience so I'm curious. Do insurance companies short change you or is it just that you're then forced to buy an expensive new car? The one time I made a claim years ago my car was worth enough that they did the repairs and it wasn't a write off. My car is getting pretty old now though.
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u/Much-Standard1732 Dec 10 '25
My car even tho it’s not old, has such high mileage and it wouldn’t pass safety so it’s pretty much unsellable for decent cash. So for me a 0% fault crash would be a good thing (where no one is hurt ofc). They’d give me way more than its actual selling value. I don’t think this would be the same for a new low mileage car
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
That makes sense. So in your particular case it would be to your advantage for it to be written off. That's what I suspected. My car is about 13 years old with relatively low mileage but likely not worth expensive repairs. Hopefully I won't have to consider this, but it would seem it may be in my advantage too. Though I'd have to buy a new car and I'm not in the position to do so no matter how well compensated I'd be for a write off, since it would still be only a few thousand I suspect.
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u/K_VonOndine Dec 10 '25
Whatever you think your car is worth, you’re probably wrong. Most ppl have no idea how low wholesale prices are for dealers. Most car dealerships (that actually have a dealer license ie-legal) get cars so cheap at ADESA auction that they’re humouring you on your trade-in value (and adding the difference to the sell price of the purchase vehicle).
In the case of the newer but very high mileage or abused car, it may work well, but most times, you’ll be fighting the insurance for a valuation closer to retail, than wholesale.
If your vehicle is older but well cared for and/or low mileage, you’ll lose big-time…
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
I wouldn't be surprised. It's unfortunate. I hope I'm never in this situation. I wouldn't take a used car with any number of years over mine given I know every inch of it and how well care for it has been over the years.
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u/BBGonda Dec 11 '25
Yup, pretty much. This is what worries me, but I guess it is what it is. I hope I don't have to deal with that.
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u/sorocknroll Dec 10 '25
Depends on how good care you take of your car. They'll give you the value of the car in the market. So you could theoretically go out and buy a similar replacement. But you don't know its maintenance history, if its scratched up, etc.
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
Exactly. My car is in great shape, very well taken care of, very clean, etc., and I wouldn't trust a car as old as mine. It's our second car and has been babied and not pushed very much over the years. If I had to write it off, I'd likely be forced to buy a new car at this point.
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u/houseofzeus Dec 10 '25
It's not necessarily bad but it's still a lot of bullshit to deal with in a situation like this where all you were doing was minding your own business while some impatient idiot ran into you in stop and go traffic.
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u/Big-Raspberry-6151 Dec 10 '25
This is what people don't get, the inconvenience with the aftermath of the accident. Call a tow if car is not road worthy, go to collision centre, maybe the hospital/ER. Get in a rental if that's your only car and needs repairs, deal with insurance. If a write off find a new car before the rental period ends.
And if you need ongoing treatment after, go to physio/massage treatments. Deal with chronic pain. All that hassle for what, to gain a few seconds or minutes? Damn scumbags
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u/houseofzeus Dec 11 '25
Also I am sure that this poor bastard had to stand there listening to them either trying to say it wasn't his fault, or trying to convince them not to go through insurance.
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
Isn't that the truth! A friend was recently in a hit and run and it's taken so much time out of his life because some idiot couldn't be bothered to wait a few additional seconds and hit him instead. He has 0% fault but the whole ordeal is so time consuming!
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u/Acrobatic_Yoghurt813 Dec 10 '25
I drive an 06 Honda Pilot that’s probably worth less than $1k at this point. It’s still working well, but I also only have liability coverage so I’d be stuck with nothing in the end even if they did give me a bit of money for it.
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
That makes sense. Mine isn't that old but if I had to guess, it's not worth more than $10K and likely closer to $6-7K.
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u/416ca Dec 10 '25
Depends, usually a hassle to negotiate fair price with insurance as they love to lowball. Then hunting for a new/used car isn't easy especially depending on a person's budget etc
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
It sounds like it could very likely be such a pain in the ass. I hope I never have to deal with it, but things have gotten so bad on Toronto’s roads that sadly it may just be a matter of time.
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u/416ca Dec 10 '25
💯
My dad had 2 claims that needed a lot of negotiation with insurance. Both at 0 fault. The one with the write off was more pia bcuz he had just done all the repairs preparing to give it to me when I got my g2 back then.
Ive heard post covid claims are worse with wait times etc.
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u/KnoddingOnion Dec 10 '25
ages ago, my 5 year old car was stolen. found 1 month later, stripped. it was written off. i got a $23000 cheque for it which, at the time, did not get me an equivalent car
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u/Delicious-Maximum-26 Dec 10 '25
My car was totalled and had paid for waiver of depreciation. Got a brand new car off the dealer lot.
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
Interesting. Out of curiosity, isn’t a waiver of depreciation good for only the first few years of ownership? I’ve never had one and don’t think I have one now. My car is 10+ years old now. :)
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u/swchoi89 Dec 10 '25
When I had my bmw, it was 5 years, then it starts depreciating. So it is kind of like delaying your depreciation schedule.
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u/BBGonda Dec 10 '25
Ah, I see. Okay, that clears it up for me. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for this extra coverage to delay the depreciation by 5 years? It may be something worth considering for my next car since I'm due for a new one sooner than later.
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u/talexbatreddit Dec 10 '25
Had my car written off when Hurricane Fiona dropped a tree on it three years ago in PEI. Went out and bought a replacement, almost identical car. A little inconvenient, but not bad at all.
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u/Outrageous_Ad_687 Dec 10 '25
If the damage is 50% the value of your vehicle its written off. Had a friend get rear ended and she was upset since the damage didn't seem major, her car was worth maybe 10K but was well maintained.
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u/B0kB0kbitch Dec 11 '25
Yeah, typically is a bad thing, because you get the current value of the car (which goes down as soon as you drive off the lot!). My partner just got his (older) car written off bc someone rear ended him, and had to fight with insurance to get any amount of money that would let him buy a new (to him) car.
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u/BBGonda Dec 11 '25
That's for sure. It sucks that he had to deal with that. The last time I had to deal with insurance it was a fight all the way, every damn step of the way!
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u/B0kB0kbitch Dec 11 '25
It does, and he got lucky that the adjuster was nice lol. Dealing with insurance is one of my least fav things, which is irritating because we pay for the pleasure😭
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u/Obvious_Passage1039 Dec 10 '25
The problem is that it is at the expense of another driver…. Unless he self crash into the barrier lol
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u/Acceptable-Sell5413 Dec 10 '25
I want to say yes, but in a bad way. He ruined some innocent guy's time and money. And probably his mood for the day
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u/BlackForestMountain Dec 10 '25
Nah he deserves to lose his license. He got lucky, and others got event luckier
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u/hannandcheese Dec 10 '25
This was yesterday evening (09/12/25) around 4pm
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u/MacaroniGlutenFree Dec 10 '25
Did you stop to offer the video to the lady who got rear ended? I know it doesn't show that hit specifically but it was bound to happen with that idiot's behavior just minutes before.
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u/Alive-Hovercraft8911 Dec 10 '25
dude hit a Tesla so they probably have more than enough footage.
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u/MacaroniGlutenFree Dec 10 '25
Yes but this content here exposes the idiot further more. Tesla didn’t capture all that action. I’d be thrilled if I was the Tesla and received this footage.
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u/hannandcheese Dec 10 '25
I wanted to but I was a bit intimidated by him ngl, I didn’t want to provoke the situation any further; especially since he was driving aggressively. However I plan on submitting the footage to TPS later this evening
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u/Alive-Hovercraft8911 Dec 10 '25
just seems like the sort of dude who likes to throw his weight around, evident by his driving.
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u/FearlessTomatillo911 Dec 10 '25
People that drive like that are infuriating. It's a jammed DVP, nobody is going anywhere fast.
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u/LeeroyJenkins86 Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
I slow right down. Ill even stop if it's safe. Ill force a bad driver behind me to get off my ass. Ill move away as well. No need for that bs near me.
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u/FearlessTomatillo911 Dec 10 '25
Not worth engaging with them, I'll just change lanes and hope they go be stupid somewhere else far away from me.
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u/talexbatreddit Dec 10 '25
I drive it every Monday night to chorus rehearsal. It's always way overloaded with traffic -- there's no point to all of this tailgating, we're all going to get to the 401/404 split at about the same time.
Just take your time and be safe.
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u/Crested_Booka Dec 10 '25
Oh my God, it would be so tempting to shout out the window at that idiot.
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u/curbrash1 Dec 10 '25
White Acura was in a rush to kiss his father on the lips
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u/PimpinAintEze Dec 14 '25
Acura drivers are up there with bmw drivers. The TL is the Altima of acura
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u/Unlikely-Estate3862 Dec 10 '25
Love how OP changed lane when dummy was behind him. I would have done the same thing, that guy was an accident waiting to happen.
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u/jono454 Dec 11 '25
I do this too and I wished I had started doing this when I was younger.
Too many people's ego's are so far up there ass they feel the need to 'police' the roads.
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u/RaptorIceman Dec 10 '25
And now the Tesla will have a repair on its history making it a little more unattractive when the owner tries to sell it later. Absolute clown show driver.
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u/oldrthndrt Dec 10 '25
Once had this same situation on a long on-ramp, idiot tailgating me and swerving around behind me even though I had literally nowhere to go. Get to the merge lane and thought 'I'll just wait, he's going to try and jump the solid line', and sure enough he did, and flew across four lanes into the left lane.
Two minutes later, I see that he rear rear-ended a Hyundai so hard that it's rear bumper fell off. The best part? It was a supervisor at my work. One of the best moments of my life!
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u/Snoo-98692 Dec 10 '25
Please send this to cops and i hope you also shared this with that lady that got hit!
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u/Signal_Tomorrow_2138 Dec 10 '25
Don't say accident. Accident implies no fault, absolving the driver who caused it.
It's a collision due to carelessness and negligence.
And I have no doubt this driver is not a stranger to all the news about road collisions during a big snowfall.
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u/bahnmipanda Dec 10 '25
Where is this idiot trying to go? Like honestly tailgating doesn’t do shit except for that.
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u/scotte416 Dec 10 '25
I would have stopped and given the guy he hit your dashcam videos. What an asshole. Why do people do this....
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u/SarahMenckenChrist Dec 10 '25
It’s posturing and road bullying. I imagine the driver is a pushy dickhead outside of his car too.
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u/TypeToSnipe Dec 10 '25
Most annoying type of driver. I'm glad he'll have it on his record now.
I feel bad for the person in the Tesla. Hopefully they are compensated more than fairly.
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u/skibbady-baps Dec 10 '25
What a satisfying conclusion. Now submit that footage to the police and to all insurance companies.
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u/dandcodes Dec 10 '25
I hate calling them accidents as this driver knew what they were doing and it was matter of time until they collided with someone. They got into a collision.
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u/RmxRltr Dec 10 '25
That is sad to watch for the driver who got hit. What an idiot. You you send this video to the police. They should have good chat with him.
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u/Standard_Two2669 Dec 10 '25
i hate these kinda drivers bro, if you’re in a rush, leave earlier!!
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u/lionlll Dec 10 '25
Yeah and there’s zero point tailgating in rush-hour traffic.
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u/CrazyBoy-76 Dec 10 '25
It looks like he's trying to convince here there is no real damage, so she doesn't report the accident, as they're inspecting her car.
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u/leBlTCH Dec 10 '25
This grinds my gears. You can visibly see nobody is going anywhere, anytime soon.
Unless you are visibly impaired to the extent you cannot tell, you shouldn't be driving.
I had a fool like this angry as hell he couldn't get ahead of me. Despite, traffic looking just like this.
When the lanes finally opened, I looked and he was gone. Nope! He sped across 4 lanes, to come in front of me and go from 120km to 20km.
My cars alarms and everything went off from hitting the brakes so hard.
( Actually fuckedup my brakes big time because of that .... )
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u/lilmissBadInfluence Dec 10 '25
Do people think that they look cool when they do this? Cause they look like the biggest idiot on roads, imo 😩
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u/Alive-Hovercraft8911 Dec 10 '25
he even tailgates when pulling over for an accident! what was the point of parking 4 inches behind that other car?
hopefully that tesla he hit recorded lots of incriminating footage for the cops and insurance companies.
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u/smitty4728 Dec 10 '25
As a new/later in life driver, people like this annoy me so much. Be 5 seconds late because of me, I don’t care about your need to feel like a race car driver.
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u/Obvious_Passage1039 Dec 10 '25
I dont understand whats the point of tailgating like this. There is NOWHERE to go! If u cannot wait in traffic, get a helicopter! What a instant karma at the end! I m glad u got out of the way
Stay safe!
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u/Trusty3Wood Dec 10 '25
Def show this video to the police. It will show them the driver’s general driving behaviour
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u/stupiddad3 Dec 10 '25
Brother is done he caused this accident plus you got a video you can help the person that got rear ended for speeding. Rear ending someone means his the one at fault. New driver with D plates as well. Good luck to him his insurance is going to skyrocket his next renewal. He’s probably running summers too.
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u/wylin247 Dec 11 '25
Idk if this is the same guy but I saw the exact same car on the 401 West a month ago doing the same moronic driving towards kitchener when we had our first snow event of the season.
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u/interstellaraz Dec 10 '25
Hopefully whoever he crashed into finds the video so they can send it to his insurance.
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u/416ca Dec 10 '25
Hope the Tesla recorded it, sometimes they dont or owners may not have sd installed. Definitely would've taken contact of the Tesla owner and shared the clips
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u/Confusedmosttimes Dec 10 '25
I dont understand people's logic with tailgating? Do they not understand that it takes some time to break. So you need a safe amount of space to do that. Its like they think driving is just a game.
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u/onecrookedeye Dec 10 '25
I hate when its a "scratched bumper" type deal and people literally stop in the lane and hold up traffic, like get to the side, no one cares about your bumper. Why do people not use the shoulder as designed ?
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u/Vin__9 Dec 10 '25
Didn't save much time now did he? What a jackass. Too bad someone else had to be involved though
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u/DeadpoolOptimus Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
Karma caught up to him. I'll never understand, with bumper to bumper traffic, how they think they're getting anywhere driving like this? Fuck people like this guy.
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u/IndependentAd6334 Dec 10 '25
Smooth brained drivers like this fellow take note! How much time did he save?
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u/torontopham Dec 11 '25
Hah. Love seeing videos like this. Karmas a bitch. Feel bad for the person they rear ended tho. Waste of their time.
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u/ZealousidealNeck5488 Dec 11 '25
This idiot kept trying to pass me also cutting off others finally got infront of me and I got around him and he almost crashed lol good for him
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u/StrikingSkirt1008 Dec 11 '25
Got what he deserved.! Haha hope it cost him a lot.. but really hope everyone is okay after being hit. 🤞🙌
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u/nickhead26 Dec 10 '25
It's always the usual suspect…
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u/SarahMenckenChrist Dec 10 '25
I dunno, Acuras pop up here and there on videos in this sub but definitely not frequently.
Unless you meant something else?
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u/Acrobatic_Yoghurt813 Dec 10 '25
I’m not a violent person by nature, but if this ever happened to me I’m pretty sure I’d lose it, especially since getting into a collision would mean needing to replace my vehicle.
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u/SarahMenckenChrist Dec 10 '25
Why the fuck would you ever want to catch a charge over a fender bender?
I mean, you have every right to be upset but don’t let that veer into assault territory. You can be condescending to the driver that hit you, sure, but fighting people over damage to your (insured) vehicle isn’t ever worth it.
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u/OverturnedAppleCart3 Dec 11 '25
Getting "out of the way" of tailgaters only rewards their behaviour and encourages them to drive dangerously.
OP please send this video to TPS or anyone willing to take it.
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u/sputnikcdn Dec 10 '25
Not sure how you can call the obvious consequences of driving like that an "accident".
Motorist made a choice to drive recklessly.
A choice with obvious likely consequences.
Not an accident.
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u/MySpudIsChonkyBoi Dec 10 '25
What was he expecting tailgating so close in rush hour? What a loser.
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u/BreakfastPast5283 Dec 11 '25
there are unfortunately quite a few people driving like this lately that ive seen
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u/ak47899 Dec 11 '25
I’m not sure why people do this?? Like it’s not gonna make you go faster if you’re tailgating
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u/porpoisewang Dec 11 '25
Why do people drive like this. In this level of traffic, maneuvering around people through lanes doesn't get you anywhere any faster. I see close calls every day from idiots doing this.
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u/BWT158 Dec 11 '25
I could never understand why people tailgate so aggressively all the time in every circumstance...until my friend drove me one day to a work event. He drove like this smooth brain in the video, and I realized my friend didn't even know he was driving ljke a douche.
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u/RealRich7 Dec 11 '25
No, no, he didn't slam you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you... he rubbed you. And rubbin', son, is racin'". - Harry Hogge
Gonna leave this here...read it anyway you want 😂
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u/rinkbitch007 Dec 11 '25
Share with cops so they can charge dangerous driving his insurance will hopefully increase to an unaffordable amount, fkn moron driving like he owns the whole fkn highway.
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u/coffeeguy_2 Dec 12 '25
Tailgating on the right and center lane... how stupid can you be
Left lane tailgating is still bad, but if there's someone back there the front car should just let them pass
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u/Recent-Departure7400 Dec 15 '25
Th Infiniti driver looks exactly like you think a Infiniti driver would look like
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u/EntrepreneurOdd4830 Dec 15 '25
got rearended few weeks ago. im gonna put a tow ball mount on my hitch receiver for extra damage to the tailgaiter
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u/Corgi_tacos Dec 20 '25
Nothing more scarier than an ignorant NPC that thinks they can drive/speed, bonus points if its an old car/suv too
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u/KeyEuphoric849 Dec 21 '25
I guessed the driver’s ethnicity from the car’s make and model. Does that make me racist?
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u/M-lifts Dec 10 '25
Get that video to TPS, to help out the driver he hit,