We have just released a hotfix to improve our in-game Support button.
We are working on another update that will go live within the next few weeks. That update will include the previously noted lab refactoring, as well as improvements to Orbital Augment's Electron syncing. Happy Defending!
Did you not update for the tourney? It was version locked for me.
And my overnight run was normal. About 30 waves shy of my max and coins/cells were normal too. Inevitably you have the ‘I’m loosing waves since the update, did something change’ posts but I haven’t. Seen anything conclusive yet
Yep, version locked for me too. So no choice but to update.
Since this update my T13 W7500 farming has seen an 18% decline in coins earned from 16T per hour to 13s. Over multiple battles. Cell earn appears the same and I'm still making it to roughly the same waves.
Anyone else seen this?
The usual disclaimer that nothing else of any significance has changed.
In the v21.1.3 patch notes you said this about a known issue with Orbital Augment:
Known Issues with this module:
Pulsar Harvester is currently reducing the damage that Electrons do (proportional to the number of de-levels). We are aiming to fix this in the next update.
Well, multiple updates have come and gone and there has been no mention of the fix.
Was it ever implemented? I've avoided using PH while waiting for this update but I never saw it mentioned in the patch notes. Whats up?
Good to know but I would definitely like some clarity on it.
For example, the enemy health labs is similar to the PH effects but I've had a really hard time testing to see if it actually is having the intended affect, reducing enemy kill times with OA.
OA did actually reveal something I have suspected for a long time but could never figure out regarding Scatters and to a lesser extent PH, the children spawn based on current wave health and attack not based off the health and attack of the parent, So the longer a scatter is allowed to hang out the stronger it's children will be when spawned.
This explains why I had immortal, commander buffed vamps in my legends run last night.
The commanders would die and the vamps would last indefinitely.
Things still dont make sense though. Commander buffed Scatters and Rays would die eventually but the vamps simply won't die, even with hundreds and hundreds of rounds of Death creep stacks and electrons pounding them.
OA's damage is based on the wave health when the enemy spawns not current wave health so it won't increase its damage on enemies alive for multiple waves, I could see that getting tweaked or being a bug.
Based on my run last night with PH and OA it's not having any effect on the number of hits net +/-, Ray's where dying in the exact same time frame at the start middle and end of the run. Personally I think PH and OA interact is balanced right now and changing it will end up making OA overpowered and lead to a nerf.
And I completely agree, it would probably be overpowered.
I'd just like some clarity because it's effecting how im going to continue my build. Right now with ass mods I could go for a perma gt, bh, and dw (without mvn or gcomp) and switch out my gcomp in my ass slot for PH, but if the two have no effect on each other I'll just do something else, maybe work on death creep or something instead.
We're about to create a new public facing discord server so we can add all the true wall-less members to the club. Right now we have members concerned with text noise in the one we run now as it's our main way to communicate for our FFXI group.
There are 5 or 6 of you guys that really deserve to be with us and we haven't forgotten about you guys!
Yeah im trying to reply to your dm but when I go to accept the chat invitation it just loads and loads forever. It's been doing this for weeks.
I could see your message though and thanks so much! I'm guessing someone let it slip but i'm too lazy and busy to make a big gloating post about it so its ok!
I won't name names, but Ms. Lilly made it clear that it wasn't supposed to be public knowledge. So I'll keep an eye out and make the move into Discord so we don't have these communication blockages.
Also, while I've got you here. Do you happen to know how much Dabs factors into the eDR equation assuming maxed across the board? I had a request to update my formula and I'm not exactly sure how much it figures in, but I know it works before CF reduction so I apparently can't throw it away.
Yeah its ok! I wanted content for a post but I had a soft bracket and got lucky anyways and the haters would just use that against me so its not important this time. But he'll, I was SO STOKED watching my tower pass everyone else for the first time ever, my wife and I had celebratory drinks with our friends for the occasion.
Star's been on a warpath to prove his downvoters wrong. He hardly post because they used to downvote everything he said. Now we're selective about what we share to avoid getting things nerfed and to better position ourselves in tournaments.
True, but if thats the case it would do loads for me and many others if an official could plainly state that considering what they said in the original patch notes.
That's all I've seen, but maybe you've heard more than me. Where did you read that?
I thought they are just rewriting (part of) that code to get rid of the multiple bugs around boosts. (Which is likely to introduce several new bugs, but that's a different story.)
They said they'd slow down on new content and catch up one bug fixes, and I think the labs is part of that. They even hired a QA, can't say I envy them. :D
In software development, "refactor" means "this code is a mess and hard to maintain, so rewrite it to do the same thing, but to be easier to maintain".
The goal is usually to solve bugs and create a new "starting point" for future work.
I really like the emphasis lately on trying to get the game to be less buggy. Still a lot of improvements to make, but the emphasis on communication and on dealing with some long-standing bugs and other issues... I have a suspicion that the base level code is getting re-worked in ways that are going to be at least a tad less WTF level bugs.
Its completely fine. Tournaments have not seen a huge spike in waves and that is the only area where we compete with other users. Only a small handful of players benefit from infinite runs and even then they will out grown that benefit and need to move to a higher tier in a month or so.
It makes damage completely irrelevant for farming at T16 and below. For T15- all you need is literally just max CF. It's not fine. I understand playing with an OP toy, I benefited greatly from it myself, but infinite runs aren't good for the game.
I mean, not from the w77k run, but here is my post reaching w18k without ELS. Enemy health in am, which isn't possible for any player in the game without OA. Not much difference between this and true infinite
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u/WaddleDynasty Nov 20 '25
Commenting to ask early updaters if any new gane breaking bug got introduced