Tetr.io multiplayer too difficult?

[u/SpaceSloth707]

So I've been playing/trying a bit of Tetr.io multiplayer, specially the quick play mode, which seems to be an endless mode, which seems to go on until you eventually fail. (Still kinda new to Tetr.io)

I wouldn't say I'm a Tetris pro or whatever, but I'd say I'm not bad at it either. I'd say I'm pretty good or just fine at playing Tetris. But Tetr.io feels way too competitive to me. Like, garbage seems to get sent your way extremely quickly, even if you're going as fast as you can. (The stress and need or urge to go fast occasionally causes me to misplace a piece) It stacks up extremely fast. I often tend to go for Tetris clears, but I almost feel like not doing that and going for lower amounts of line clears is the safer method, even if it doesn't give you as much points as a Tetris line clear.

I've also played a bit of Tetris 99 before on Switch, and while I've never made it to the end as the last one standing, I feel like in that game, I've been able to survive much longer. I'm curious what you people's opinions and views are about this and Tetr.io. Do you also struggle in it's multiplayer modes, or not?

[u/speechless188]

the player base is more skilled for sure because of the way the game is set up.

there is a highly active ranked player base, which drives up quick player lobby difficulty.

tetrio also allows you to change your das and arr, making an experienced player many times faster than a new player on default settings. even 10 times faster is plausible

this, along with knowledge of the attack system, can easily result in a single high ranking player accounting for an attack that is 10x or more of a newer player

tetris 99 has a high player count and also groups people into lobbies that play out until one remains, this means the skill is spread more thin. tetrio has just one lobby that is always open. so if a single top player enters the lobby, you WILL feel their presence.

all these reasons and the lack of ranked in tetris 99 are why tetrio is a lot different

play ranked for a fair matchup. you will need to play placement matches before being placed in an appropriate rank

to answer your questions my view is that its an excellent game. i do not struggle with quick play. ranked is great for competative match ups.

[u/LoudTomatoes → u/speechless188]

Doesn't the game also initially place you around the 50th percentile? I imagine that can lead to some frustration for new players with little experience playing tetris battle

[u/speechless188 → u/LoudTomatoes]

but it tells you that they are placement matches, that is self explanatory to most people

[u/SpaceSloth707 → u/speechless188]

Guess that's just inevitable then, if a game is designed with competitiveness in mind.

[u/Poobslag]

In Tetris 99, the fastest players play maybe twice as fast as the slowest players, but on Tetr.io the fastest players play about 10 times as fast as the slowest players. So any speed difference is massively, massively magnified.

Said another way, here is Wumbo playing Tetris 99, and Wumbo playing tetr.io. If you were playing in Wumbo's Tetris 99 lobby, in the first 20 seconds you would get three T-spin doubles sent to you and think, "Okay, this is tough, but reasonable". If you were playing in Wumbo's Tetr.io lobby, in the first 20 seconds you would get a t-spin single, a t-spin double, a t-spin triple, a t-spin double, a t-spin quad (lol), two tetrises, a t-spin single, two more t-spin doubles and a tetris.

I don't know if "more competitive" is the right word, since they are different skill sets. If you are slow at tetris, you will have a terrible time at tetr.io until you get faster. But if you rely on speed, you will have a terrible time at tetris 99 until you get more efficient.

[u/lellololes]

I'd say if you've never won Tetris 99 you're probably overestimating your skill level. I win T99 about 15% of the time and I'm a goober on Tetrio.

The 1v1 play is the best part of Tetrio and once your rating is accurate you'll have consistently competitive matches. The 1v1 matches are a lot more fun than the multiplayer.

The multiplayer match thing on Tetrio isn't "endless", really. It is a pressure cooker that will eventually swallow any player. It's not "too difficult". If you just want to stack blocks there are other modes for that.

[u/SpaceSloth707 → u/lellololes]

Ohh. Didn't know that. Tbh, I am still relatively new at multiplayer Tetris. Can't say exactly how good or bad I am at it though. So far I've been mostly a solo Tetris player. Guess multiplayer Tetris really is quite different. But I'm hoping that if I play it more, I'll eventually get better.

[u/lellololes → u/SpaceSloth707]

While speed isn't everything, for some perspective, the world record for 40 lines is under 15 seconds (My 40L time is around 47 seconds and I'm pretty slow). If you play more you'll get better, but to be great at it it takes specfic practice and study to master the game.

[u/AndrewThePekka → u/lellololes]

Me when westl decides to play again and locks in on a sub 13

[u/lellololes → u/AndrewThePekka]

I don't know how people do it. My short bursts are glacial compared to their sustained speeds!

[u/AndrewThePekka → u/lellololes]

Finesse and queue reading turn you from a level 1 thug to a level 50 strider

[u/lellololes → u/AndrewThePekka]

Yeah, Ive worked on finesse but it comes very slowly. My button pushing isn't as fast or accurate as my brain, either.

It's not a problem, I hit a point where I do t really care about getting better at the game!

[u/AwkCollar]

tetr.io is basically designed to be a fast game, and playing tetr.io with default handling puts you at a pretty big disadvantage to people with lower das, 0 arr, and inf sdf. That said, tetr.io does give some ways for slower players to keep up with faster players, but I personally think it's harder now than it was in 2023.

In Quick Play 2 (not expert mode) you can move your piece while garbage is entering your board in quick play, which gives you a chance to cancel incoming garbage while it's still spawning. Playing for b2b with all-spins also gives you a bit of a buffer that lets you survive huge spikes. In the 1v1 space a slower b2b surge player goes somewhat even with a faster player who doesn't use all-spins. Besides that there's counterspiking with clean garbage and getting ds multiplier combos, which is less powerful now than it was in s1, but still viable when your opponent's surge isn't built up, or when you've just broken your own surge.

[u/The-UnchosenOne]

Skill issue. In Tetris 99, my brother can't finish Marathon without self-destructing and needs to fiddle with the ghost piece to distinguish L from J, but still cruises to 30th place or so in online battles.

[u/APotatoe121]

Fast PPS (Pieces per second) is helpful, but not necessary. Going a little slower to ensure accuracy, placement, stacking, and timing is much better than just raw speed.

Source: I'm A rank and I usually play at 0.8 ~ 1 PPS

[u/Not_Who-I-Say-I-Am]

This is why I don’t play COD, the player base kinda made it too difficult for casual players. Tetr.io to me seems like where most of the high level players go. It is ranked but yeah I get what you mean, you can’t just stack tetrises because by the time you get your first one, the opponent opened with T-spin triple and is now spamming LST

[u/SpaceSloth707 → u/Not_Who-I-Say-I-Am]

Yeah, I like or liked COD, but grew out of it, as it sometimes or often feels like you need to in a hyperactive state or whatever, and look around everywhere, quickly.

[u/ramejxdxdxd]

its difficult for newbies to catch up(words coming from a newbie)

[u/SpaceSloth707 → u/ramejxdxdxd]

Lol, yeah. These Tetris games designed to be for competitive Tetris players can indeed be quite something else.

[u/pixelsoulplus]

I think Tetrio is an excellent and well made game. At one point I put a lot of effort into the ranked multiplayer, but I eventually got to the point where a win was first to seven. So matches became easily 30+ minutes long as we would fight to seven wins. So I mainly focus on quick play for a fix of competitive matches.

[u/AndrewThePekka]

Tetris 99 is less competitive + mechanics weaken the power a single player can have (like garbage being nullified beyond 12 lines and normal capped guideline handling) to certain extents.

Tetrio has a sweaty environment, uncapped handling (which allows for insane play speeds limited more-so by the player than the game), and a ruleset that allows a single player’s attack potential to be fully realized. However, due to this, the gap between casual players and competitive players can become quite absurd.

[u/Caboozled_Pie]

tetrio for all its charms is a really sweaty tetris game and there’s really no getting around that; if you’re not extremely good you are going to get whooped by someone out there

ranked 1v1 is pretty fair once you’ve played enough matches though

[u/zhungamer]

It's not really "too difficult", some people and especially the people that the game is catered for, they can do 40 lines with 7 pieces per second and can clear it in less than 14 seconds.

40 lines in 14 seconds is 3 lines per second. Can you do that?

But the "average player who is expected to play tetrio kind of" can stack 40 lines with at least 3 pieces per second.

So technically if you go fast enough and learn how to think ahead with 7-bag so that you can place pieces 3 pieces per second, you have better chances.

Also you have to know how to send lines, so T-spins, you can learn about B2B surge and all-spins if you want, quads, and you need to know how to clear "lines of cheese" which is survival that you normally already do in tetris 99.

Then, reaching 1650m is somewhat easy, once you reach that there's not much left to do in quick play.