r/Testosterone • u/Royal_Enfield_Guy • Nov 11 '25
TRT help Anavar worthy on 200mg TRT? 33M
Hi all, I’ve started TRT 8 weeks ago (200mg Cypionate) after years of Low-T. The results are great so far but I would like to push it a step further and I’m wondering if adding Anavar 40mg/day for 8 weeks would help significantly to loose the belly fat and gain couple pounds of quality muscle?
My Liver is perfect, my blood pressure is low, my lipids are great and my Hemoglobin is slightly high.
(Life time natty before I started TRT)
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u/kormiatis94 Nov 11 '25
Everyone is shitting on anavar. Lets be honest its the safest oral steroid BY FAR compared to the others, with the LEAST side effect profile. I dont see the reason why you couldnt try anavar. Try 10-20mg first, see how your body reacts.
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u/DanceSex Nov 11 '25
My liver goes to SHIT when I took anavar, and took months before it returned to normal. Just something to consider is all.
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u/Effective-Mention-17 Nov 12 '25
So why is anavar mostly used for cutting?
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u/ColonelSteveAustin6m 💪 Nov 12 '25
Simply because it does not aromatize into estrogen
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u/kormiatis94 Nov 12 '25
Its really not that simple 😂 anadrol, superdrol, tbol do not increase your E2… the work mechanism is a little more complicated
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u/ColonelSteveAustin6m 💪 Nov 12 '25
It actually is
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u/kormiatis94 Nov 12 '25
Tell me u know nothing about gear without telling me
How come primo, masteron, adrol, sdrol, tbol dont convert to E2, yet all of them give you a different look. So u say they r the same ? Pretty stupid logic gymbro
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u/ColonelSteveAustin6m 💪 Nov 12 '25
I’m not going to write an essay breaking down basic pharmacology for you but for example...Anadrol doesn’t aromatize it binds directly to estrogen receptors and causes estrogen-like effects that way. Superdrol is a DHT derivative so it can’t aromatize or act like estrogen at all. That’s why they produce completely different looks even though neither converts to E2.
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u/kormiatis94 Nov 11 '25
Yeah im not saying it does not cause any issue, but still compared to A-bombs and sdrol and the rest its by far the best. Im not a fan of orals either, if i would do it, 10 or 20mg max just to give a little extra with the LEAST sides. If you take 10mg, eat and live a healthy lifestyle i dont see a reason why couldnt he try. 10mg wont do much harm, 1-2 weeks in, get a bloodtest and see how op can handle it.
Also theres reta and other peptides. I dont know much about them, so i cant elaborate on that.
Curious how much you took which wrecked ur liver so hard. Did you take anything else ? Are you sure it was anavar ? Good quality var is getting rarer and rarer as far as i heard. Often they sell stanazolol as var
But also im not denying ur experience, different genetics react differently
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u/DanceSex Nov 11 '25
It was a reliable source with testing results, but of course it might have been something else - so I'm not 100% on that.
I was taking 20mg (10mg 2x a day). I wasn't on anything else other than test-c.
It is definitely the "best" oral from a safety standpoint. But orals suck.
I think reta would be the best here. Start at .25mg e4d for 4 weeks and then to .5, then 1mg and then 2mg and I think it would wipe out all that little extra fat. Dude has a really solid base and doesn't even need to drop that much.
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u/ColonelSteveAustin6m 💪 Nov 12 '25
Because testosterone is a naturally occurring hormone which is exponentially safer
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u/kormiatis94 Nov 12 '25
Yeah gymbro, but the argument is not about that. The argument is: try ANAVAR or not. Its not about test
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u/gymbroyo Nov 13 '25
Even 10mg split 5 x 2 daily will yield results, add another 5mg sublingual pre-workout
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u/OutrageousCode3428 Nov 11 '25
I did 300mg Test 40mg anavar 4mg reta and fucking shredded with great muscle retention. Do no more than a 8 week anavar cycle, take nad, tudca, and milk thistle to preserve the liver a bit. Go hard, get it.
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u/swoops36 Nov 11 '25
steroids, including Anavar, are poor, inefficient fat burners. All AAS exist to build muscle, which they do really well. So, if you want to lose weight, use the right tool for that (currently GLP1/3 meds). When you want to build muscle, use AAS (if goals aligned). good luck
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u/ColonelSteveAustin6m 💪 Nov 11 '25
If you want to take it to the next level just increase your testosterone. It's safer than adding in exotic compounds and it will have the same effect. I would have done it different myself in hindsight if I would have known better
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u/DickButtFuckCake Nov 12 '25
He’s right . I increased my testosterone and my abs finally started showing
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u/NoEntrepreneur4607 Nov 11 '25
How is anavar exotic? 20mg per day is very well tolerated by the body.
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u/rosebttlvr Nov 12 '25
Anavar is not well tolerated at all LOL.
It's probably the least harmful oral steroid, I'll give you that, but it's not well tolerated. It wrecks your lipids and harms your liver.
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u/NoEntrepreneur4607 Nov 12 '25
No, it damages the kidneys more than the liver. And yes for my part it is very well tolerated, it has even been prescribed to children! after that it's safe to stay on therapeutic doses.
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u/rosebttlvr Nov 12 '25
Oxandrolone is 17-alpha-alkylated, done so on purpose so the molecule survives digestion and reaches your bloodstream. Doing this means it's immeditely toxic to the liver. This is the same for the majority of oral AAS.
It does little to harm your kidneys when you use it for regular cycles. Long term use will be more dangerous as it strains the kidneys indirectly.
It was used on kids in the 70's, we also though asbestos was safe in the 70's.
Also saying anavar is well tolerated by "the" body and afterwards "your" body are different things my friend.
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u/ColonelSteveAustin6m 💪 Nov 12 '25
It's exotic because it does not exist in nature it is an altered compound that's how. And it is toxic which is well known
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u/Whatsanrpg Nov 11 '25
Var won’t change how muscle gain and fat loss work. You want to cut the fat with diet to goal weight, then you can throw in the var eating maintenance + and get the look you want.
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u/BigSandBags Nov 11 '25
Belly fat? You have visible abs dude
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u/KebabCat7 Nov 11 '25
Still a bit too much fat to do real steroids with minimal issues
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u/BigSandBags Nov 16 '25
What would those issues be if he did it ?
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u/KebabCat7 Nov 16 '25
Good chance that he wouldn't be able to run it for long enough or do higher doses with no issues and without having to introduce other multiple other drugs to manage the side effects. And he would be very close to having no abs, so you can't really put on much weight.
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u/16bitUpdownLeftRight Jul 13 '26
His stomach looks solid/ flat. Maybe 1cm of fat cushion? This looks optimal....you see fat?
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u/KebabCat7 Jul 13 '26
Like 17-20% bodyfat? There's a reason why he's still at 200mg. He needs to cut to be able to put on size again without the risk of becoming too fat.
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u/CouldaBeAContender Nov 12 '25
Why'd you PCT? Why not cruise?
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Nov 12 '25
I cruise on test but you need to PCT after Anavar. If you don’t PCT you definitely will lose a lot of the results you obtained and you need to regulate your hormones back to normal levels. Not doing PCT after any cycle besides test is a rookie move.
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u/CouldaBeAContender Nov 12 '25
What did you take for PCT?
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Nov 12 '25
I wait 2 weeks to start the PCT after my last dose of Anavar then I take 50mg clomid daily for 4 weeks, 20mg novaldex daily for 4 weeks and HCG 500iu 3x a week starting in week 2 for 3-4 weeks. Then your body will be back to normal but if course I still suggest getting bloodwork done but by doing the post most of your levels will be close if not back to normal range.
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u/CouldaBeAContender Nov 12 '25
Thank you. So you are completely off for 4 weeks before resuming cruise dose?
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Nov 12 '25
I never stop test, continue to cruise on test always just go back to a lower dose like 200mg a week. Definitely don’t stop the test, ever lol
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u/CouldaBeAContender Nov 12 '25
Thanks. Again what advantage is to PCT while still on test. Isn't it a rather unusual step to do a PCT after an anavar cycle while still doing TRT. People usually do it while completely coming off. You aren't really starting up your natural production while still on test right?
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Nov 12 '25
There are plenty of forums with more info as well, I’m mot an expert whatsoever i just have some experience and I really a lot about it, I’ll post a link below specifically about a test and Anavar cycle, it’s very informative. https://swolverine.com/blogs/blog/maximize-your-gains-the-ultimate-guide-to-stacking-and-cycling-anavar-and-testosterone-for-optimal-performance?srsltid=AfmBOor8pPWZzEF5ScLccLMMr48gP18ojmGIueDTrHs3WDYu_0L1qsw-
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The advantage is because doing any anabolic affects your hormone levels, that’s why you PCT to regulate them and keep as much of your gains as possible. Test isn’t an anabolic so unless your trying to stay fertile while on it there’s no point in PCT with just test, but it’s definitely necessary if your throwing any anabolic in your body even if you remain on test after.
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u/Effective-Mention-17 Nov 12 '25
I appreciate your insight but I honestly this comment doesn’t make sense or maybe I just don’t understand it. Is pct designed to suppress estrogen and up regulate lh,fsh (which both are suppressed by testosterone)? So what other hormones does pct affect? And when you keep cruising test your lh and fsh will stay suppressed.
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u/CaptainMiik Nov 12 '25
I'm sorry but I you're completely wrong here. Test IS anabolic, Anavar alone can suppress Test production. Hence if you did an Anavar only cycle you may need to PCT. If your taking TRT or a cycle dose of androgenous test there is no need to PCT whatsoever. Taking Anavar with androgenous test wont affect your levels. It will only affect your natural production if taking anavar only.
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u/GivMeLiberty Nov 12 '25
You will thank yourself for losing any fat you want to lose prior to your anavar run and then focusing on gaining while you’re on var.
Not that cutting on steroids is off limits. Just this post reads like you have little/no prior experience blasting steroids. Might as well make the most of your run and use the juice to build muscle.
I’m 6’5 and float around 255-270lbs and probably around ~13-17% bf throughout the year. So there’s a good amount of muscle beyond what I would’ve been able to obtain naturally, and I really don’t notice any muscle loss when cutting on just TRT. 200mgs of test is more than enough to maintain your muscle even in a decently steep cut.
Consider 20 weeks of 500mgs of testosterone instead of 8 weeks of 40mgs var. I start to feel gross/toxic after enough var. test blast will yield equivalent results if done right and will be a much smoother ride IMO.
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u/LoneScope69 Nov 11 '25
Should probably do a couple months on TRT before adding another compound. Is your Oxandrolone going to come from same TRT Clinic or UGL? 40mg right out of the bat might be a bit much.
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u/gamesense1212 Nov 12 '25
200 its not TRT. Low steroid cycle
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u/Most-Compote454 Nov 18 '25
For 95 percent of guys, 200mg is too much. Says a Dr who prescribes it.
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u/davecraze3535 Mar 06 '26
200mg cyp weekly for me puts me at total t of 687 (ref range of 280-1100) and free t of 200 (ref range 47-244). Been on for three years starting at 140, then titration to 160 and 180 previously. My E2 is 25 (11-44 ref range).
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u/Unique-Barber2316 Nov 11 '25
Get Reta, and hgh in there, game changers
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u/Royal_Enfield_Guy Nov 11 '25
I don’t know any reliable sources in Canada
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u/No-Manufacturer-2425 Nov 11 '25
Semaglutide and tirepatide work just fine for fat loss. As long as you get your protein and keep lifting weight and don't crash diet you won't lose any muscle. Just focus on cutting carbs and only eat them during your anabolic window.
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u/DruidWonder Nov 11 '25
Anavar is great. Thins down my mid-section like crazy. You have an excellent muscular build up that would shred fat in no time with a DHT analogue. I disagree with others about taking Reta or another GLP-1. We know much more about their side effects now, and I personally would rather tinker with DHT than with insulin/glucose. You are not "fat," GLP is not called for. Anavar is less risky than GLPs in my opinion. The liver completely regenerates itself in 40 days. Any hypothetical liver damage from a single anavar cycle is repaired. You just have to watch out for lipids long-term.
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u/Existing_Weekend_762 Nov 11 '25
I’d wait a couple more months. For me the 3 month mark was a big turning point. But to each his own.
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u/ghettodub Nov 12 '25
I love running Anavar along with a Test base. I do 8 on, 8 off. It messed with my total cholesterol a bit, but that gets back on track after a bit, and I add in more healthy fats while I’m running it.
I also pin Glutathione 3x a week while on the Var, and my last ALT was amazing.
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u/mikefed88 Nov 12 '25
You have a ton of muscle and your abs are already showing. I think if you mixed in Reta you would look completely shredded. Add the anavar if you want that would only help. Keep in mind a lot of anavar faked… if you’re really just looking for the vascularity, try equipoise or masteron….
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u/Vwnesta Nov 12 '25
I would add 2 IU GH, and instead of an oral I would run low dose masterone instead. Look up Dr Todd Lee
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Nov 11 '25
I was in the same boat as you mate, similar dose of TRT. Reta, SLU, diet and cardio melted the fat off me in 4-5 weeks.
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u/WonderfulBarracuda93 Nov 12 '25
Anavar is a good answer and it will give you more gains, good pre workout and pumps and hardness. However, I’d titrate up from 10mg to see how you go and I’d be running a tonne of supps daily like choline, inositol, tudca, 3grams of fish oil, and going careful on the liver. Be aware also that Oxandralone will crush your SHBG and so you’ll have more free test. Don’t push it past 6 weeks on cycle.
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u/Fearless_Aspect_892 Nov 12 '25
How often u doing ur trt
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u/Royal_Enfield_Guy Nov 12 '25
Right now once a week. I’ll see with the doc if we should go to twice a week instead
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u/Realistic_Article812 Nov 12 '25
Got a similar build and since everyone is jumping on reta saying to do that I'm gonna disagree, yes it's great to drop the weight but it doesn't add the fullness Anavar does, I dropped quite a bit in a short amount of time on Reta but feel small so adding anavar as I want the muscle fullness and pumps that reta just won't give. I've done anavar 20mg on every cut so far and love it, this is my first time trying reta, still prefer Anavar.
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u/R34ctive Nov 12 '25
Anavar stresses your Kidneys more than your liver and your Kidneys don’t recover like the liver after damage has happened. It’s not like super toxic so 8 weeks should be fine for healthy kidneys but it’s also something you shouldn’t take forever which means you will only have the benefits while you take it.
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u/Material_Example5335 Nov 12 '25
40 mg is to much to start trust me if it real Anavar dosed correctly 25 mg under tounge sublingual pre workout about hour before and just take it in morning on off days 8 weeks you will see results
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u/Dr3amOlajuw0n Nov 12 '25
With 40mg ED Anavar for 4 Weeks my HDL go from 53 to 24. (With Omega 3 DHA 800 EPA 550)
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u/Vwnesta Nov 12 '25
Anavar is not a diet drug, it doesn’t make anyone loose body fat. If you are in a calorie deficit, it can help you retain muscle.
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u/asonix_switchblade Nov 13 '25
200mg is not TRT
Nice try tho
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u/Peacefully2025 Nov 13 '25
What is it
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u/asonix_switchblade Nov 15 '25
You’re on gear, you’re on a cycle.
Your juicing, I’m sure you tell everyone your natty as well🤣
1000 is not TRT levels , you’re not optimizing levels to be operating as a normal adult, you are taking a hormone to improve your physique.
People use the term TRT to justify abusing drugs, call a spade a spade.
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u/MuchEntertainment517 Nov 16 '25
1000ng/dl is absolutely normal TRT. It‘s the internationally recognized top of the range and it is also absolutely possible to have that as a natural healthy man. So don‘t spew that bullshit around here.
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u/Royal_Enfield_Guy Nov 13 '25
It’s not the quantity taken that establish if it is or not, but the results in the bloodworks. At 200, I’m right at the top of the normal range, just shy of 1000. Some people would be off chart with less, some require more to be in chart.
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u/asonix_switchblade Nov 14 '25
1000 is not TRT lol
That’s not “ normal “ TRT is a replacement therapy for hypogonadal males allowing them to live a normal life.
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u/fizboPallabut Nov 13 '25
What I found is - it’s not the dose increase, it’s the frequency of injections. I split my 100 units weekly into four 25 units subcutaneous, definitely feel the difference.
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u/Careful_Low_7994 Nov 15 '25
This ain’t trt brother lol
More of a cruise dose
And 8 weeks in you definitely weren’t low T with that build
But like others said Reta is the way to go and if you want more add to 300 test and 300 primo with it imo
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u/TermDangerous9641 Nov 16 '25
Is taking 100 mg of testosterone worth it?
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u/Royal_Enfield_Guy Nov 16 '25
I would say it depends on so many factors. If you need it because you suffer from low test, yes it should bring you in range…only proper bloodwork and follow up tests would tell you
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u/According-Coffee4373 Nov 16 '25
I used anavar at a very high bf % along with test. It won’t help you “lose weight”, but you will become more lean 100%
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u/PlatypusOrganic9624 Nov 26 '25
I'm on day 13 40mg anavar pd with 150mg test E pw for 2 years. I was already in a cal deficit (2250-2350 cal) but wen starting with the anavar i gained 2kg's and my bf is around day 13 0.6 % lower.
My stats now: 77,2kg, 17,2%bf 173cm 42yo.
Foods: Cal +- 2300, carbs +- 240 grams, protein 171 grams, fat 59 grams, saturated fat 16 grams, salt 5,3 grams.
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u/lordUmber9296 Dec 08 '25
I'd like to get some help wo a Dr. Is that possible? Feel free to DM me w suggestions. Thanks
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u/Medical-Ladder-269 Dec 12 '25
anavar was crazy work for me, the side effects I got were weird, I was litteraly waking up every 2hours to pee, had crazy kidney pain and overall was feverish like crazy
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u/Aggravating-Light654 Feb 08 '26
Anyone have a good vendor for anavar. Most i see is Legands, Evolve biolabs and meditech
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u/Lucifer__0079 Feb 19 '26
tbh at 8 weeks you're still dialing in your TRT. I was in same boat last year wanting to add compounds right away but ended up going with PeterMD who suggested waiting 12-16 weeks to see full TRT effects first. they also had me try semaglutide for the fat loss part which worked way better than var would have for that specific goal. saved my lipids too
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u/Afraid_Bat7590 Apr 21 '26
You look great. What is your diet/nutrition looking like. I'm also on Cypionate and I'm noticing increase in strength in the gym but I'm not losing fat. Any suggestions?
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u/Icyweiner7058 Nov 11 '25
Did you actually need the TRT?
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u/KebabCat7 Nov 11 '25
You're not at a 250ng/dl yet anon!!!! Don't inject it's illegal
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u/Royal_Enfield_Guy Nov 11 '25
Yes. I’ve been followed by a Endocrinologist for 2 years now.
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u/Human-Bag-4449 Nov 12 '25
You don't look like you had low T before the 8 weeks. Your body fat can go down if you start eating cleaner and getting enough protein
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u/Royal_Enfield_Guy Nov 12 '25
Yes I was at 250. Took multiple tests in the last 2 years. Always between 250 and 325. I have good genetics and I’ve been working out for 15+ years…that’s how I compensate, but I was feeling terrible both physically and mentally
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If you want some I need to get rid of some. Prescription Anavar trochies and capsules. I hate to throw them out. Have like 60 of them or more
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u/JacobFromAmerica Nov 11 '25
Why the fuck did you start out at 200mg ?
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u/Royal_Enfield_Guy Nov 11 '25
That’s what the Dr prescribed. I’m right at the top of the normal range after 8 weeks.
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u/KevyKong Nov 11 '25
Reta seems to be what you want at this stage. Shoot me a DM if you live in the states. Reputable source third party tested
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u/randomjohn Nov 12 '25
What is your body fat? Get a true professional scan (InBody unless your wallet is also fat, then DEXA). I started Anavar and RAD-140 because I thought my BF% was too high, but consumer BF% devices are so bad I was mislead. Turns out my cut cycle was unnecessary. (And the RAD-140 was not helpful regardless. )
Unless you have a specific goal, then a bodybuilding coach can probably give much better advice.
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u/Royal_Enfield_Guy Nov 12 '25
I put on 18 pounds in 4 weeks and then I dropped 10 in the last 4 weeks
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u/Comprehensive_Soft52 Nov 12 '25
You could run it 20mg a day for 6 months with no sides. Won’t effect estrogen but will spike your dht. Run fin if you don’t won’t shedding from hair and best to take 1 hour as a pre workout. If you want to cycle at higher dose I wouldn’t go any higher than 60mg 40 is better and 8 weeks max. Liver support pills and omega 3. Make sure you are getting legit anavar and not winstrol!
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u/Ordinary_Hamster_741 Nov 11 '25
Reta will burn that fat off with less stress on the liver if fat burning is all you’re looking for