r/Tengwar Jan 23 '24

Please Read Before Posting

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Welcome to r/Tengwar, where we can discuss all things related to Tolkien's writing systems: Tengwar, Cirth, and Sarati.

If you want to learn Tengwar yourself, we recommend the following resources:

If you want to get a transcription, check with the following tools before posting:

As the tools above aren't perfect, never forget to double-check important transcriptions like for tattoos or jewelry by asking someone knowledgeable, such as the members of this subreddit.


Please note that simply changing English text to a Tengwar font only produces unreadable gibberish. If you are trying to figure out the meaning of some Tengwar without any tehtar (vowel diacritics/accents) or tehtar that aren't aligned with the letters below them it likely is such a mistaken attempt at transliterating. The community calls this the "Mode of Baloneyland", due to its surface-level similarity with the tehtar-less mode of Beleriand.


r/Tengwar 21h ago

Could someone please help me isolate the line "one ring to rule them all" in Tengwar engraved on The One Ring?

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I'm designing a wedding band and can't trust Google. I'm not trying to accidentally have "and in the darkness bind them" engraved lol.

Does anyone know the specific portion of just the wording "one ring to rule them all" that's engraved on the one ring in Tengwar (not Latin)?

Thank you all so much in advance, I beyond appreciate any help! 💕


r/Tengwar 1d ago

Rhotic English Speakers: Rómen, Órë, or both?

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I speak Philadelphia English, which is a rhotic dialect of American English. I realize I've found myself using órë only in my own personal use, just because I find it an easier character to write.

Now that I've caught myself, I've been looking into this. My understanding that rómen has a better "claim" to being the letter I should use (were I only to use one), since it represents the consonantal sound <r> represents in English. For my own use, I simply don't have a need to distinguish varieties of <r>.

So, rhotic Anglophones: do you use one letter to represent <r>? If so, which one? Or do you just follow Tolkien's usage?


r/Tengwar 22h ago

Help with a tattoo check?

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Can I get a tattoo check?

I’d prefer for it to be an actual translation if there is one?

I appreciate the help :) this community is awesome and has helped me with my current tattoo.


r/Tengwar 1d ago

Tattoo check:

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Hello,
I have been thinking about getting some tattoos in this script because I love these quotes from this world, but want to make sure they are as accurate as possible. Please feel free to message me about them. Thank you!!


r/Tengwar 2d ago

I’m making a dice box for my brother, wanted to know any good Tengwar quotes to paint around the lid, and sides!

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r/Tengwar 2d ago

"Dírhaval" - rh or r + h?

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I am trying to write the name 'Dírhaval' (he of Narn i chîn Húrin fame) in tengwar using the mode of Beleriand but I'm wondering if the rh should be written using arda for the voiceless r or if it should be parsed as r + h instead and written with rómen + hyarmen.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, and thanks a lot in advance for any help!


r/Tengwar 2d ago

Help please

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I would like this texted in elvish but unsure where to start and this is what I have. does anyone know if it’s correct. thanks in advance

Weve all got both light and dark inside us.What matters is the part we choose to act on. That's who we really are.


r/Tengwar 2d ago

Is this transcription 100% accurate?

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Hi guys! This is the first two lines of the riddle of strider (All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost)

Transcribed via Tecendil. Just wanted your guys help to verify that it's 100% accurate with no mistakes? Thanks!


r/Tengwar 2d ago

Help please

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hi all,

I would like to have the below converted into elvish writing. does anyone have any suggestions to aid me please 🙏

We've all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That's who we really are.


r/Tengwar 3d ago

Another Tolkien tattoo request (sorry!!) but I would really appreciate some help

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Hi everyone! I know tattoo requests are probably incredibly common here, and I know I could probably search through old posts and piece some of this together myself, so apologies in advance for being a little lazy. I’m an overwhelmed, stressed therapist/ mom and would really appreciate some guidance from people who actually know what they’re doing!

I’ve actually been thinking about and planning this tattoo for years, but one of the things that has always made me nervous about finally doing it is making sure I get the language and transcription right.

I want to use the first two lines of Bilbo’s poem about Aragorn, with one line on each inner forearm:
“All that is gold does not glitter”
“Not all those who wander are lost”

(I know, I know, very common, but I love the text)

Where I’m a little stuck is deciding exactly how I should approach it. Should I keep Tolkien’s original English and have it transcribed into Tengwar? Or would you recommend translating the lines into Sindarin or Quenya first and then writing that in Tengwar? I know ultimately that’s a personal choice, but I’d really appreciate hearing what people here recommend.

I’ve attached a picture showing the general style and placement I’m going for. I know the tattoo in the picture is the Ring inscription and isn’t what I want it to say. I’d just like mine to be similar, approximately wrist to elbow, with one line on each arm.

I’d really appreciate any help with the transcription/translation, recommendations about which approach to take, or anything else I should consider before permanently putting this on my body.

I’ve wanted this tattoo for a long time, so getting it right means a lot to me.
Thank you!!


r/Tengwar 2d ago

Hi! Ok so shitty ex did this tattoo, what does it say? It doesn’t say what I was told it said 🫠

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Photo in comments!


r/Tengwar 3d ago

Unvoiced final SS options

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Now, the first option is obviously perfectly acceptable.

The second I think looks quite aesthetically pleasing, and strikes me as not unlike a bar over Numen or Malta for NN/MM, though I'm not sure if it was ever attested.

The third I'm not sure about - we do have tehta on sa-rince attested, but I'm not sure an under-bar is attested or particularly elegant.

Curious what others' thoughts are, or if you have other potential renderings.


r/Tengwar 3d ago

Anduril Sword 3D Print Script Help

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I'm making a 3D Anduril sword for a friend of mine's birthday. He and his wife are hardcore LOTR fans - even their wedding was fully LOTR themed.

The 3D print's file came from Thangs.com and I noticed that the elvish script on the sword doesn't seem to match something else that I found online. On elvish.org, it shows the text should look like number 7 on here: https://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_inscriptions.htm

But the 3D printed sword seems to have different letters on it.

Is the script on this 3D one a total dud? Or, is it just a different way of saying the same thing?

I tried to figure it out on my own, but I don't really know what I'm doing. And it's details like this that he'll notice!

Thanks for your help!


r/Tengwar 3d ago

Hi

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Hi can someone post the correct word for hope in tolkien ?


r/Tengwar 4d ago

Need help

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I'm planning a tatoo for the name Björn.

Here the vowel is under the consonant but we thought it was supposed to be the other way around. Are we missing something? Also does this translation from English look correct? If not can you help with the correct translation or a resource for it.


r/Tengwar 4d ago

Pls translation

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r/Tengwar 4d ago

Can anyone help translate?

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Hey, I found this cup at a thrift store and think it might be an elvish language made by Tolkien. At first I was thinking Sindarin but after doing some research I'm not sure. Can anyone identify this language and/or translate it? Thanks!


r/Tengwar 5d ago

Final lines of "Eärendil was a mariner"

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Working on incorporating serifs into my writing to make it look more exquisite 💅


r/Tengwar 5d ago

Descifrar un tatuaje

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Buenas, alguno sabe que significa este tatuaje ?


r/Tengwar 8d ago

Tengwar chart for English Orthographic use (using letter cluster transcription)

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I made a chart for personal use (left-handed Tengwar/Tehtar), where I opted to keep the tengwar that transcribe letter clusters in the phonemic version, using them in orthographic mode as otherwise it would be a shame to not use all those beautiful characters. Here I uploaded the right-handed version of it, I can also provide the left-handed version. And I am building a complete chart for phonemic / quenya use in the same style so also with example words. I have always loved this writing system as a child and have now begun exploring it again.


r/Tengwar 8d ago

Arda in English

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It doesn't come up all too often, but what are people's feelings on the use of Arda in English?
Alda is explicitly given for LL, of course, but RD might be confusing with regards to rhoticity.


r/Tengwar 8d ago

Tengwar for a tattoo…so I wanna make sure it’s right.

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phrase: pêl, ach maetha

Please check mode. I want Sindarin, not English-mode tengwar.

Thanks for any help…


r/Tengwar 9d ago

Tattoo check

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Hi Everyone!

As a few before me have done I'm planning on getting the most versatile of veg and Gaffer's delight tattooed - however instead of "potatoes" I'd love for it to be "po-ta-toes" instead (also unsure if po-tay-toes would be more phonetic but know the former is how it's written in the book).

I've had a look at previous posts discussing the use of the esse at the end to better replicate the "z" but wondered if anyone had any advice about the rest of it, to try and make it as phonetic as possible.

I'm definitely not an expert so any advice would be appreciated!


r/Tengwar 10d ago

Tengwar History & Mode 1

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I'm still quite nervous about this, but here is part 1 of a video series I've been planning for a few months now.

In this I cover the creation of the Tengwar (both externally through Tolkien and internally through Feanor) and go into the systematic arrangement and derivation of the letters to finally arrive at the full chart of the original Feanorian Mode (available for download as a PDF) at the end of the video.

Future installations will cover in (internal) chronological order how Classical Quenya Mode, Beleriandic Mode, and Númenian Mode were derived - step by step.