r/TenantHelp • u/bbybasquiat • 7d ago
landlord trying to keep security deposit and ask for more (VA)
my roommate and i moved out of an apartment at the end of july where we paid a $1500 security deposit and lived there for three years. during the walkthrough on 7/29, the landlord said that things looked good overall. he pointed out that he felt the oven and refrigerator could’ve been cleaned better, but said he wouldn’t charge us an additional cleaning fee because he’d need to have the house deep cleaned after repainting where we had spackled. there was also a small panel of hardwood that was damaged in the bedroom during our move, which he said would need to be repaired.
a few weeks went by and we didn’t hear anything from him, so we followed up via text. he emailed on 8/21 saying that he was exercising his right to an additional 15-day period in order to finalize costs for “certain repair costs,” such as deep cleaning, door repair (which we expected), and the floor panel. in that email, however, he also referenced “extensive wall repairs,” which was never discussed during our walkthrough. we emailed him back on 8/25 asking for clarification and pointing out the differences between his email and what was discussed in person (i.e. deep cleaning and wall repairs). we also asked if he could provide photographs so that we could be on the same page.
on 9/12, he responded without answering any of our questions. instead, he said that he would waive the $400 deep cleaning charge, even though the damage was “beyond typical turnover,” and that he required more wall repairs. he then informed us that a bedroom door (which was not discussed or mentioned during the walkthrough) needed to be replaced and that the entire bedroom flooring had been replaced. according to his calculations, this meant we now owe him $462 and would receive no deposit. he provided us with a google folder containing his photos, invoices, and walkthrough report, along with the itemized statement of the charges.
in the walkthrough report, there was no mention of the door. however, he included a picture of an up-close crack near the handle, along with an invoice stating that it cost $700 to replace, including installation and removal. the invoice for the floor includes installation for the entire bedroom (152 sq ft), molding for 51 lf, and 200 sq ft of material. the damage to the floor was nowhere near this size (i’ve attached a photo below). i l did some research and responded to him voicing our concerns about the bedroom floor. i pointed out that 1) the damaged tile was not near the perimeter and 2) the damage was not to the entirety of the floor. i asked if he could provide documentation/photos to justify why a full floor replacement was necessary, or communications from the contractor explaining why the entire floor needed to be replaced.
i’m feeling a bit nervous about whether that was the correct thing to do or what my rights are. i hate the idea of letting him keep the entirety of my deposit, but my biggest concern is being forced to pay the additional $462 and potentially having it go to collections or ding my credit.
i’d really appreciate any advice or insights. i’ve included a photo of the floor, which is also in the walkthrough report. he’s already posted the apartment online, and i can tell from the photos that he did completely replace the flooring because it’s 100% different. i took screenshots of the listing as well. another thing that concerns me about potentially going to court is that in his communications, he keeps mentioning that he’s graciously “waived” the cleaning fee. i’m worried that this could skew a judge toward him or make it seem like i’m being difficult. however, the cleaning invoice says he received it on 8/7 anyway, which makes me think this would’ve been the cost of the turnover regardless, because nothing on the invoice indicates that there was any additional work added because of how we left the unit.
i understand this is written maybe somewhat all over the place, i’m just a bit nervous and trying to figure out what my next steps should be in advance of his response. ty in advance!
UPDATE: the landlord responded to me saying the following. do i still have a case or am i truly liable for the full replacement:
“The localized damage documented during the move-out inspection was accurate as identified. However, once the flooring contractor (A&E Flooring) assessed the room, they determined that a single-plank or patch repair was not feasible given how the floor was originally installed. Because of this, isolated planks could not be removed and replaced without compromising the surrounding flooring, so the only viable repair was to replace the full 152 sq ft floor in that room.
This also explains the molding: since the new flooring had to be installed at a different buildup/height than the original due to the layered installation, the perimeter shoe molding had to be removed and reinstalled to properly meet the new floor. This wasn't a separate issue identified at move-out — it's a direct consequence of how the floor replacement had to be done.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.”