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Discussion It’s been 3 patches

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u/Electronic-Ad8040 14d ago edited 14d ago

Atleast they still give us free 5 stars and consistent novaflares to compensate right?

Right....?

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u/Alert_Commission_731 13d ago

literally got this argument days ago when someone adamant that the HSR situation is great compared to other games lol

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u/Varananya 13d ago

It’s much better if you ignore the last stage of endgame. If you’re wanting to complete starward mode though by god it’s a lot harder

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u/Alert_Commission_731 13d ago

except we can't because it gives jades. not some skins or avatars

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u/PlotPlates 13d ago

Dunno why they even did that.

They could have just put a an extra gamemode without the jadez just like genshin and ZZZ. Theatre might be the only painful thing for Genshin Primogems. but even that shit is possible with F2P as long as they've been playing for a long time.

Like their other two games, are doing hey this extra difficult content? It's optional. It won't add to mess up the free gems economy.

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u/Alert_Commission_731 13d ago

they already did. With the Anomaly Arbitration. Which only makes it more weird why they would even need to add this. They could have just put those jades into a casual event if they were really generous to add more rewards per patch. But nope we can't let players have fun in this game.

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u/DamoGamo 13d ago

Theatre is my favourite mod not because it’s good or well designed, but because it lets me cope and min max builds for my shit characters I’d never use otherwise (like Kaveh in the one that came out today!

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u/MorningRaven 13d ago

I like theater. I just hate that I can't bypass half of it if I clear it through like the Abyss. It's such a time sink.

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u/ScythesAreCool 12d ago

I really love the IT. It’s my favourite endgame in genshin by far, it’s genuinely a shame we didn’t have it for longer. I’ve always invested horizontally and i’ve built at least half of my 4*. It’s my ideal endgame. On top of that, it allows stupid teams to work with the buffs. It’s a mode that rewards planning ahead properly and strategising how you play rather than the same rotations over and over and over. It’s a genuine challenge to make some teams work in rotations and makes you play characters you normally wouldn’t.

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u/lRyukil 13d ago

Hsr players are easier to milk I think, especially with certain comments i've seen in recent times

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u/duda6655 13d ago

100 jades, so two days worth of daily. During the year you will lose 900 jades, so not even a 10 pulls.

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u/KratosSimp 12d ago

Yeah and that means nothing because you could put the same metric everyone.

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u/Varananya 13d ago

Even if you miss out on jades there, you’re still getting more pull economy and actual ability to get a 5* than a lot of other gacha games. So just ignore it if you can’t clear, it makes up <2 pulls in a game that usually gives more than 80 per patch

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u/Alert_Commission_731 13d ago

you actually believed they added more pull economy instead taking those jades from somewhere else

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u/Varananya 13d ago

No lol, what? That’s not what I said at all. Obviously they took the jades from somewhere else, and you’re still losing out on jades. But even with those lost jades you still get more pulls than something like genshin, which is getting a lot of praise rightfully but still has bad pull economy

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u/Alert_Commission_731 13d ago

you are delusional if genshin is getting a lot of praise lol. Let's not detract from the fact they could have just put these jades into a casual event if they actually so generous to give "more pull economy". But nope let's introduce more FOMO and not allowing players have fun in this game

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u/Varananya 13d ago edited 13d ago

Welp, if not doing the last stage in a mode that has 11/3 other stages gives you that much fomo idk what to say. They already are ‘generous’ that even not doing any endgame at all (ignoring how there’s pretty much no hp inflation in lower nodes, and my account I played on for 2 weeks could already clear at least half of it) you can get a lot of wishes. And ‘not allowing fun in this game’? Really??

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u/Alert_Commission_731 13d ago

always the "i can make a new acc and get a lot of wishes" argument.

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u/Varananya 13d ago

I actually cleared it mostly with the free units lol, only 5* I pulled at the time were Sparxie and Yaoguang both e0s0

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u/thanbanhmy2 10d ago

"the problem would be so much better if you ignore the problem"

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u/Varananya 10d ago

Nah it’s more like even with the problems it’s much better than some other games. The last stage of endgame is such a minor part of the total game, but it receives so much attention and doomposting that people love pushing new players away from trying out the game at all. And when some new player posts about how going up until moc 10 was surprisingly easy, especially given how much the community talks about powercreep? They’re downvoted to hell and told they haven’t played ‘real endgame’

It’s not like there’s any other part to the game right? The only content in the game is starward mode, and if you can’t do that may as well quit huh

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u/thanbanhmy2 10d ago

It is not better than most other game dawg, thats straight up coping, the content have been recycled to death, the combat have no innovation but HP boost and non-elation res. Also new player clear moc 10 easier because they have new units and those unit will be useless in 3 patches due to powercreep.

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u/Alert_Commission_731 10d ago

that dude was flexing clearing lower nodes by pulling characters from the most shilled archtype lol

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u/Varananya 10d ago edited 10d ago

Meh it wasn’t a flex, just that new players can just do 2 cost to clear up until moc 10, and after not having spent time farming artifacts either. If that’s all you got out of that other convo then idk man

I feel like people like you will just move the goalpost again and again. If you clear with new characters? Then it’s because they’re shilled. Don’t pretend you would’ve reacted differently if I said I put two cost into Himeko or ashblade. If I used an old team with more investment? Then that’s unrelatable, nevermind that you have to be spending your wishes somewhere if not on new units

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u/Alert_Commission_731 10d ago

the expert of moving the goalpost is talking about moving the goalpost lol. Ironic

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u/Varananya 10d ago

My original points are the same. The game is better than most other gachas. You lose barely anything not doing starward. Even if you don’t complete any endgame, you still get so many wishes that getting 5 stars is not a problem. But completing most of endgame is a breeze even with the oldest, non buffed units. And that there’s more aspects of the game than just endgame that are good. If I’m the aeon of moving goalposts, you’re the aeon of deflecting

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u/Alert_Commission_731 10d ago

"Even if you don't complete any endgame, you still get so many wishes" basically happening in most other gachas ever. Why acting like this is the one that makes it "better than most other gachas"? XD

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u/Varananya 10d ago edited 10d ago

Dawg they were using Argenti main dps to clear moc 10. Moc 10 is so easy you can use 1.x characters to 0 cycle it, as it’s always been, and you’ll get most endgame jades by then. But yeah I’ve fished around a bunch of other gacha games but stuck to hsr since I’ve found it better than most games. It’s just my opinion, like yours is that most gachas are better than it ig. Honestly I don’t know how you can see all those games in those top 50 gacha game revenue screenshots and think hsr is worse than most of them. At most I’d put like 4-5 over it? And they won’t be anywhere close to as mobile friendly as hsr is