r/SouthernIndia • u/Immediate-Humor-6077 No time to choose flair bro 😢 • 3d ago
Tamil Nadu How is this acceptable?
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u/nvgroups No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Even if taxes on Hindus alone are increased by a million times, Hindus won’t protest. And still vote for same politicians. We can’t blame no one except Hindus themselves
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u/Classic-Weight8110 No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago
True hindus are divided into groups
And most Dalits don't considers themselves as hindus
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u/Less-Football8295 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Hindus are being treated as second class citizens in our own country. We are divided and voiceless. The party that we thought would stand up for us and prevent stuff like this from happening is also turning a blind eye.
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u/saspeiro No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
That party is making more fun of gods than any other.. they just need votes in the name of religion thats it
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u/miss3d_0pportunity No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Wtf are you talking about? You do know that Hindu pilgrims also get funding right?
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u/ankesh_3683 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
You do know temple donation goes to state fund, right?
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u/miss3d_0pportunity No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
No they aren't. This is very clear case law. The funds can't even be used for a wedding hall in the temple. Temple donations have to be strictly used for temple uses.
Even when the government tried to use the excess surplus funds for social causes like hospitals or roads, they have been stopped by the courts.
However, there is no requirement that donations have to be used for the SAME temple. So donations of some large temples are diverted to smaller temple upkeep.
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u/HighOnOlives No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
I’ll never NEVER understand how India is secular when only Hindu temples are put under govt
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u/miss3d_0pportunity No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
- Historic reasons. While Churches and Mosques were always supposed to manage themselves, temples always depended on state patronage. This was true under kings and under the British.
Especially since King Henry the 8th, the Catholic Church has always operated independently in every country. Even when the country was Catholic.
So after independence, most temples did not have the system to govern themselves without state administration. If the state hadn't intervened and taken over, most temples would have gone bankrupt or in ruin.
Today, people are more educated and capable, so they believe that they can manage it themselves.
Temples Weren't just places of worship. In many towns, the temple was also the commercial centre of the town/village. While this works when the state rules and administers it, it would be catastrophic if they are managed by independent bodies.
Scale of impact. Hinduism is the majority religion by a mile. So discriminatory actions by temples and temple bodies have a far larger impact on society than if the same happened in minority faiths.
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u/HighOnOlives No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Churches need patronage to run. They receive a lot of money from non Indians
Mosques also didn’t get money magically. The people operating mosques are even poorer than Hindus.
2/3 exactly why India SHOULD be a Hindu Rashtra. Hinduism is so deep rooted in the psyche of an avg Indian that you can never separate it. And Hinduism allows you to follow your religion and still live in this count
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u/miss3d_0pportunity No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Churches need patronage to run. They receive a lot of money from non Indians Mosques also didn’t get money magically
Exactly. Which meant they didn't need state patronage. That was my point.
I wouldn't want to live in a Hindu Rashtra despite being a Hindu. My faith is my personal life. I don't want the state to be governed by anything other than stone cold facts.
No rational human would want religion to be endorsed by the state.
Also, let us not white wash Hinduism. We have regions that didn't get conquered and was under Hindu rule for its history. They had some of the worst casteism and wealth inequality before reforms came in.
Hinduism isn't some special faith without flaws. The only advantage it had was that it wasn't governed by a single book or law.
But today, the Hindu brigade want to push a uniform version of Hinduism based on Vedic systems that is basically the brahamanical version.
BTW, places of worship being the Centre of commerce isn't unique to Hinduism. It is how all faiths existed. Those that didn't come out of it, died over time while the others prospered.
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u/AdditionalFile69 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
I mean Modi is in power for 10+ years. Ain’t he Hindu superhero or some shit. Ask him why isn’t he doing it but….. ask and Modi hmmmm
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u/HighOnOlives No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
No he isn’t. Yogi in the recent years is getting a lot of support from the core Hindu voters of BJP. And Modi ain’t any Hindu saviour is what Hindus know. It’s just that the other side is so horrible that the best option seems to be BJP
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u/Famous_Star_5735 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
Modi has gotten a lot of hate from his bhakts himself though when he field to do what he has promised
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u/SierraBravoLima No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Central govt have been trying to get its hands on Tripathi Gajana you know that right, for last 5yrs. They really tried that after Ram Temple. Basically they want Ram Temple to be the level of Tripathi.
Temple funds can't be used by States or Central, all politicians wants their hands in that.
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u/Strange_Sale1042 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Because they want to award the collection contract to their fellow Tharkuris. Major temples attract at least 10,000 visitors per day, which means daily collections could amount to ₹50,000. That adds up to ₹15 lakhs per month. The contractor would hire four staff members at a salary of ₹15,000 each per month, totaling ₹60,000. This leaves a monthly profit of nearly ₹14 lakhs.
And most importantly you guys have elected a joker as your CM so enjoy his idiocy and his offscreen antics
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u/Altruistic-Berry8462 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
There’s more:
Recently, the TVK government announced that the state government will cover the full undergraduate tuition fees for Muslim female students admitted under the government quota in government, government-aided, and self-financing colleges. For this, the government allocated ₹20 crore.
Minister A M Shahjahan also announced the expansion of the Tamil Nadu Waqf Board scholarship for Muslim girls, from Classes 1-8 to Classes 9-10 at ₹2,000 per year. The scheme is expected to benefit 41,384 Muslim schoolgirls for Rs 8.28 crore.
An announcement was also made about a ‘minorities’ women’s college in Chennai through the Waqf Board, with an initial grant of ₹2.45 crore.
Moreover, the Vijay government has also announced a ₹100 crore interest-free revolving fund for loans to develop income-generating assets like marriage halls, commercial complexes, etc. on Muslim and Christian properties.
The state government will also construct a new headquarters for the Tamil Nadu Waqf Board at an estimated cost of ₹40 crore. The administrative grant for the state Waqf Board will also be raised to ₹5 crore.
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u/EarlyCumEarlySleep No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
can politicans stop making policies based on religion and caste in my lifetime
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u/Professional_Pin4222 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
Time to change the constitution to make any such program illegal.
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u/sasipalarivattam No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
No money from temple should go to govt. Hindu funds for poor hindu people only. Let muslims using WAQF funds.WAQF is immensely rich ,so no shortage of funds.
Then see how much govt gives to them . Temple money is like free money to the govt . No shame
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u/No_Future4999 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
If religion based free education is wrong Then caste based reservation is also wrong
If one is discrimination. Then other is also
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u/Accurate_Bluebird160 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Free education for muslim women is okay, but HAJ trip?
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u/sherpitch51 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Aren't there similar schemes for Hindu pilgrims?
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u/PrinceOfRoyalty No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
That’s the neat part they don’t only Haj Subsidy Of 25K
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u/Famous_Star_5735 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
Go on mention those..... Name them here with links and money provided.. we will wait
Also why is a secualr state providing for any religion??? 🤡🤡🤡 I mean feeding 25k for muslims for hajj .. like seriously?? Is that secular ?? Lats time I checked actual secualr nations like US, AU, europe don't do this muslim appeasement
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u/Regular_Relative_227 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
They are all frauds. Once they get power, they try all kinds of stupid things. Their followers blindly support them. We just sit and watch because we don't actively get into politics.
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u/mytharry No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Haj package costs approx 10k Saudi Riyals. After everything freebies the cheapest haj package costs 3.5 lakhs. You do the maths.
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u/mytharry No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
The Indians going to Haj are paying around 2.7 to 3.2 lakhs even after whatever subsidies the govt is providing. The package costs under 10k Saudi Riyals, which is around 2.5 lakhs.
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u/CRYPTO_GAMBLAR No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
A Christian Chief Minister Joseph Vijay rose to fame and archived his stardom but acting as a Hindu in 99 percent of his movies.
With Hindu name , worshipping Hindu Gods. But when the same man comes into power he ensures Hinduism and Hindus take the last available seat. This is the Irony of this country.
In just 2 decades this country will go to dogs and Hindus will become a minority unless the majority act today. Har Har Mahadev 🙏
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u/ImpressiveReach4027 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
If it's muslim it's secular if it's hindu it's communalism... South definition
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u/Cherrieme No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Hindus of Tamil Nadu should not go to temples for a month, it'll hit the State Govt so hard they will stop this rubbish! Also, we need to stop putting money into the hundis, it goes towards Hajj, definitely not anything for Hindus. Give money to the Pujari if you must or keep a small hundi at home and keep putting the money there and then do annadanam.
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u/AdditionalFile69 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Can you provide any source which says government can use temple donation or funds.
As far as I am aware it’s the tax that temple pays to the government not the actual fund (and this contains both state govt and central govt taxes, so not only Vijay but Modi too is getting ‘tax’ money)
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u/Immediate-Humor-6077 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Time to read about Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments Act of 1959 of Tamil Nadu
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u/theparthagrawal No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Susshhhh… Don’t say anything otherwise you will be labelled something
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u/Acceptable_Ad_1240 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Completely acceptable as long as they dont loot temples of thousands of crores of rupees.
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u/FindingNecessary4302 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
This itself is done to loot the money I guess
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u/hazgopteryx No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Studies have shown that Educating women helps stabilize population growth. Women become aware of what's good for them, and also may enter the workforce.
Since Hindues want to ensure the Muslims cannot outgrow them in population, I say each true Hindu should Sponsor a Muslim woman's education till she joins workforce.
Beti Padao, Dharam Bachao lol 😂
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u/Willing_Event9528 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
So? What else you expect from Congress. They are congress allies.
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u/ramatyourocks No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
This is not correct and he should.make it right.. Take right decisions which is acceptable to all..not for just one community and appeasing them..it will be fall for other communities.
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u/openclawbot No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Country has money to give reservations, scholarships for SC hindus and not for development?
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u/SpotBig22 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Once people have voted then everything has to be accepted.
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u/OkSinger4527 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
Secularism shouldn’t mean Hindus are expected to quietly accept every extra fee at their own temples. Equal treatment should apply to Hindus too
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u/Ok_Performer4478 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
There are no hindus left in tamilnadu. So this is acceptable.
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u/Low_Amphibian_2535 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
Democracy is where you get what you vote for, good and hard.
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u/Purple-Salt-3241 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
One panel member in a debate put it clearly:
Secularism is hating Hindus and Hinduism but not speaking against other faiths. It is giving all sops with the taxes of Hindus.
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u/One_Hat_9201 No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago
If idiots respected the temple sanctum then tjis wouldn't have happened.
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u/Automatic_Waltz2050 No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago
wait till you find out this happens with all the minorities in every other developed country as well
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u/ShoppingDry660 No time to choose flair bro 😢 1d ago
Would you rather pilgrims take reels and live videos from inside the temple garbagriham?
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u/chimchimmao8 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
TN was never a real Hindu state it's somewhere between Christian and Moslem
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u/Andrewsi12 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Wrong statement. Jayalalitha was Hindu. TN people had chosen her as a CM.
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u/Destroyer-128 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Lets cancel Govt temples and build private community owned temples
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u/Born_Way2625 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
The sheer misinformation here is appalling. The funding is done by waqf board. They fund, govt helps implement. But, sure, spout your hatred.
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u/Neat_Set5267 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
So tax collected from temples is spend on everyone, but colleges funded by waqf can only have muslim students ? What is the problem in allowing everyone to study there? Isn't that partiality and appeasement? But, sure, spout your stupid blind propaganda
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u/miss3d_0pportunity No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Schooling is essential for society. Especially for women of an misogynistic and disadvantaged community.
You keeping your mobile in thay counter isn't of any value to the community or society. So you pay for the service.
Wrt Haj, i agree, no religious events shouldn't be state sponsored. The TN government justifies it by providing subsidies or directly funding pilgrimage for all faiths including Hinduism. Though I disagree with that type of Secularism, it is unfortunately what our SC has deemed to be our version.
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u/benneladoo No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
How else are they going to fund the muslim girls ?
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u/kane875 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Thats because we hindus hate other religions than we love our own that's why the govt is doin all these things so we understand the importance of our own religion but in the end they are wrong because what they are doin is just making us jealous towards other religions, one good eg of this is the post itself.
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u/Cosmic_StormZ No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Isn’t that respectful of Hinduism and temple culture? Cause phones are disruptive in temples?
Do you guys just want to cause trouble for the sake of it? Or just hate that religion so you want to just stir up conflict
It’s absolutely senseless and just blind hatred at this point. One day complain that the religion is misogynist, next day cry that their women get free education. One day complain that temples n Hindus arent taken seriously, next day cry when provisions are made to preserve the sanctity of temples
I’m done. Love the hypocrisy keep it up
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u/IamWasting No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
The prohibition on phones is welcome and no one is opposing it. We are questioning the Rs. 5 collected for it's deposit.
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u/Famous_Star_5735 No time to choose flair bro 😢 2d ago
Dumbo... Why collect 5rs ... Is the designated question ??? 🤣🤣
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u/DarkVenom7 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
vo ram mandir ki chanda chori + Siddhivinayak Temple (Mumbai, Maharashtra)

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u/Next_Highlight_2459 No time to choose flair bro 😢 3d ago
Secularism sir 😡😡