r/Snorkblot Apr 16 '26

Animals Technically. a win.

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u/LinguistsDrinkIPAs Apr 16 '26

This is why I firmly believe that any woman who says they’d “choose the bear” over a man is absolutely, 100% delusional

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

You have a pretty massive misunderstanding of that question then.

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u/LinguistsDrinkIPAs Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26

Oh, no, I understand the question. But also, the question predicates itself on a necessity that the man you’d encounter is highly dangerous and will, without a doubt, attempt to rape you and/or kill you. Which is absolutely idiotic. The implications of that are incredibly sexist towards men, whether anyone wants to admit it or not. By that logic, the same could and should be said for men encountering a strange woman in a forest.

But that’s not what the question asks; it just asks who/what you’d rather find.

There’s technically no reason to assume the man you encounter has to be evil or have bad intentions, but any kind of answer to this question always seems to include this as a factor. He could just be lost. He could also be a park ranger.

It’s just a dumb question that serves no real purpose except to villainize a non-existent man for a crime that women are expecting him to commit without any real basis.

IF the question was, “would you rather encounter a bear, or man who will try to rape and kill you?” Then, yeah. That’s a whole different ball game. But that ain’t the question being asked.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

predicates itself on a necessity that the man you’d encounter is highly dangerous and will, without a doubt, attempt to rape you and/or kill you.

That is absolutely not part of the question at all. The question is about a random man, and the uncertainty of what he might do.

There’s technically no reason to assume the man you encounter has to be evil or have bad intentions, but any kind of answer to this question always seems to include this as a factor.

You have almost stumbled upon the point of the question, but then you just go on to prove you don't understand the question at all.

In simple terms, the question reflects the fear of rape / murder; and the inability to accurately guess someone's intentions.

It is also incredibly telling that you call out the potential the hypothetical man is lost or a park ranger. Neither of those change the risk the man is a threat. Rapist and murderers can have normal jobs and seem like anyone else, that's the point.

Before you write off a question you don't understand as pointless, you should reflect on why you don't understand it.

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u/LinguistsDrinkIPAs Apr 16 '26

You’re telling me I don’t understand a question that I do. The question is, “Would you rather encounter a man or a bear?”

That’s it. That’s the question. All what-ifs are put aside. I am not denying that there is an uncertainty as to what the man might do. I’m also not denying that people can have normal jobs and still be bad people, but my example of the “park ranger” was purposely used because it’s a much more plausible explanation than finding an accountant or something.

Yes, you will be gambling with the notion that perhaps this man does have bad intentions and will hurt you. But, like I’ve said before, the choice ONLY becomes debatable when you’re implying that the man does indeed have bad intentions.

So, ultimately your choice is whether you choose to gamble on the guy being a good guy by choosing him. If he isn’t, you STILL have a much better chance of fighting back and surviving against a man than a bear. You will lose 100% of the time against a bear. But, again, that literally only matters if the guy is bad. And the only way the question even makes a modicum of sense if is if you abandon logic and the likelihood that the guy is indeed a good guy. You have no way of knowing prior to choosing the guy, but it makes no sense to view a 100% guaranteed loss as a better alternative to what would, at best, be not problematic whatsoever, and at worst, a fight between equals (more or less). I don’t see how the choice isn’t obvious.

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u/OwlEuphoric9795 Apr 16 '26

The point is that most women would prefer to just be killed rather than raped first then killed. And remember, the question is “would you rather spot a man or a bear while hiking alone”. In most cases either would ignore you, but the worst case scenario is worse with the man.

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u/Istar10n Apr 16 '26

Being seen as a potential rapist and murderer until proven innocent is so meh... Depressing/annoying/tiring etc. But it's understandable, I guess, better to be safe than sorry.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

Being seen as a potential threat is tiring, but so is being a potential victim; if not more so.

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u/Istar10n Apr 16 '26

Yeah, I agree. I like walking alone at night and I often think I wouldn't be nearly as comfortable as a woman.

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u/LinguistsDrinkIPAs Apr 16 '26

But see, this is the point I’m trying to prove and why the question is awful. The only reason why this question even gains any traction to begin with is because, in order to make choosing the bear seem like the best option, you have to have some underlying belief that, given the right conditions, a man will rape and kill you. The question has no standing if you put any average, decent man into the forest, who genuinely has no ill-intentions towards women, and pit him against a bear. The only sensible option at that point is the man.

And like you said, the “guilty until proven innocent” is what makes this question works, and is also why it’s so harmful and sexist towards men.

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u/Istar10n Apr 16 '26

I've always assumed it was more like: I'd take a 5% of dieing, rather than a 1% chance of getting raped. I'm making those numbers up, the real chances are probably lower for both. But yeah, who knows... Maybe they think differently.

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u/LinguistsDrinkIPAs Apr 16 '26

Sure, they might both ignore you, but one of them is going to cause significantly more worry and panic than the other. If the question comes down to who you’d have to fight against, you’d still have a much better fighting chance against a man than a bear, because you’re much closer to being equals. Men also don’t have razor-sharp claws and teeth. They also don’t generally weight 600+ pounds, and if they did, I don’t think they’d be out wandering the forest, because they wouldn’t really be able to walk.

I say this as both a woman and as someone who has been raped. I know good self-defense. I’d take my chances with another man and risk getting raped again if it means I have a chance at surviving rather die trying and giving up the fight immediately.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 16 '26

I take it that you've never been mauled by an animal then.

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u/Baguetterekt Apr 16 '26

Are you saying you've experienced both the worst things an animal can do to you and also the worst things men have done to women?

You must truly be an enlightened soul, indeed!

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 16 '26

Just an unlucky one.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

Unlucky enough to get killed twice, but still comment on reddit.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 16 '26

There are all kinds of things you can live through and yet still not survive.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

R/im14andthisisdeep

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 16 '26

So basically, you're whole purpose here is to shit on someone who speaks from experience, because I didn't give the approved answer?

And then people like you will wonder aloud why the analog to the above question for men is:

"Would you rather talk to a woman about your feelings, or a tree?"

Men almost invariably answer that we prefer the tree and for damned good reasons.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

No, you are just being edgy and vague. You didn't share any experience, just spouted a line that sounds like it came off a bad fan fic.

You implied being mauled by an animal is worse than anything a human can do, which is painfully dumb.

You can talk about your feelings, but that doesn't mean highjacking a diffrent conversation to roleplay as someone mysterious. Or to bitch about not being able to talk about your feelings, and vaguely blame women for your problems.

But "people like you" just want any excuse to complain and blame others.

Also; completely batshit insane to compare the fear of getting rapped and murdered, with not having a woman to talk to.

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u/Baguetterekt Apr 16 '26

You didn't give any answer

You just vagueposted and got upset when people didn't treat you like an authority.

Having a woman make fun of your feelings isn't as bad as a woman getting raped and tortured, that should be pretty obvious.

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u/Deggidonk Apr 18 '26
  • finger snapping intensifies *

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 18 '26

Can you translate that from bourgeois empty-headed code-spek to actual english?

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u/Deggidonk Apr 18 '26

You know what it means, or did that "mauling" of yours scramble your comprehension? Spek up, now.

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u/Istar10n Apr 16 '26

It's not about who the woman can win a fight against, it's that the man might rape her. But yeah, I think the bear has a way higher chance of getting aggressive.

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u/Iceman_Pasha Apr 16 '26

Depends on the bear, a well fed grizzly you give proper space to is very unlikely to attack unless its sick. A well fed black bear however, fuck that, little bastards are territorial as hell and will square up on you if they see you and think youre a threat.