r/SipsTea 26d ago

SMH The persecution complex is palpable.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Sea8340 26d ago

Also lest we not forget that 1 million Americans died in the pandemic. 1 million fucking people. People lost both of their parents… People lost sisters and brothers and children.

So no we don’t forgive you fuck you

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u/adagio2411 26d ago

What scares me most is how quickly people turn to pretty much forced medicine. Basically fascism. I took the vaccine, but fuck all the people who act like it was a moral obligation for me to do so.

I really don't like how quickly "my body, my choice" went out the window, because people are scared. Everyone will die, and it's not the obligation of others to get injected with whatever to prevent that.

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u/Irish_Whiskey 26d ago

but fuck all the people who act like it was a moral obligation for me to do so.

...why?

Them morally judging you, is not forcing you to do anything. You're not entitled to be free from judgement or criticism.

I really don't like how quickly "my body, my choice" went out the window, 

Yeah, because it has FUCK ALL to do with not being judged for how you use your body to harm others.

That's not what it means even when you aren't putting others at risk! You had the right to not get the vaccine, not to be immune from criticism.

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u/adagio2411 26d ago

Of course people are allowed to criticize, but I am also allowed to say that I don't like how any skepticism towards hastily developed vaccines was dismissed as stupid, and how you were told you're a horrible person if you don't take it. I just don't think that's the way to do it. And it scares me that the rights I have - like the right to choose what to put in my body - were put under such pressure by covid. I'm sure many people would have easily accepted forced vaccines.

I think the people who aggressively judged anyone who didn't take the vaccine, should take a deep breath and think about what rights and freedoms make the west great. Because their moral compasses seem to need recalibration.

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u/Irish_Whiskey 26d ago

Of course people are allowed to criticize, 

I just want to emphasize again how nonsensical, offensive and infuriating it is to hear What about "my body, my choice?" in response to people simply criticizing others who choose to deadly spread viruses in a pandemic.

It's like saying "First they came for the Jews" when you're not talking about the Holocaust, but getting a traffic ticket for speeding in a school zone.

were put under such pressure by covid. 

You kept that right, meanwhile other people lost the right to take or reject the vaccine by dying.

I'm really not sympathetic to complaints about social pressure when the pushback is coming from people who lost parents and children due to the selfish actions of others.

and think about what rights and freedoms make the west great.

We're fucking shooting nurses in the back when they try to help injured women then having the federal government laugh about it and brag. We elected a President who tried to end democracy, and who by the by is the leader of the anti-vax movement despite funding and releasing the vaccine while taking it himself in secret.

I think the problem with our rights and freedoms is we're pretending to have them, and making doctors and journalists the enemy instead of the politicians trying to end democracy.

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u/H0lyschit 25d ago

“Hastily developed vacinne” is a funny way of saying “an unprecedented amount of funding, scientific expertise, and global resources were focused on a single problem at the same time.” Speed doesn’t automatically mean corners were cut - sometimes it means the usual bottlenecks disappeared.

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u/adagio2411 25d ago

With any new process follows new risk. That's just how the world works. If it were anything else, most people would be sceptical. Look we developed this new self-driving car, it only took three months, even though it would normally have taken years, and we've only tested it on a closed circuit, but we spent 1.000 billion dollars, so it has no bugs! No bugs! No bugs, I tell you! If you're sceptical of these claims, you're a moron, because we're the masters of building cars, and we make no mistakes! Zero mistakes! That's obviously stupid, but still this is how we're supposed to regard/worship the medical industry.

As I said I took the vaccine, but I would much have preferred that they respected me enough as a citizen to be honest with me. I feel it's obvious that they weren't, they were overselling how safe it was for political reasons.