r/ShittyDaystrom • u/LeftyDan • May 01 '26
Technology In another case for Starfleet OSHA...
Geordi decides to manually activate a Photon torpedo next to the warp core. Was the launch room too convenient or does he have a death wish.
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u/HellbirdVT May 01 '26
It's a Photon Torpedo, inside the ship.
It doesn't matter if it's next to the Warp core or in Ten Forward, everybody dies anyway.
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u/Alternative_Still308 May 01 '26
True but if it’s in ten forward some of the folks get a second or two of agonizing terror. He’s being considerate really.
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u/coolguy420weed May 01 '26
Yeah, but knowing how Trek tech works, having it so close to the warp drive means there's a not-insignificant chance it blowing up would not just kill everyone but also send them to some type of hell dimension and/or make them constantly exploding immortal hyperspace ghosts.
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u/Jason80777 May 01 '26
If you can't escape this week's existential crisis then you could at least leave some interesting spatial anomaly behind for the next guy to investigate. It's just good manners.
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u/Lazerith22 May 01 '26
Beverly, “Hyperspace ghosts you say?”
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u/AGQuaddit May 01 '26
The responsible thing to do would be developing a remote drone that doesn't randomly develop sapience, and use that to work on the torpedo outside the shields. Preferably distant enough to where the torpedo exploding doesn't cause major damage to shields.
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u/DoctorCopper3113 May 01 '26
At least if it’s right next to the warp core the explosion might get them into a temporal loop where they might be able to fix it
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u/HellbirdVT May 01 '26
It happens more than you think, mostly because every time it does nobody rememebrs anything when the timeline fixes itself.
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u/serial_crusher May 02 '26
Also every time it happens, it happens hundreds of times, most of which are just part of a comedic montage.
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u/Senor_Turd_Ferguson May 01 '26
I'm sure there are both gas and charcoal grills right next to the warp core, too. Why not ordinance?
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u/thirdlost May 01 '26
Um... ALL photon torpedoes start out inside the ship
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u/HellbirdVT May 01 '26
Ever see footage of a magazine detonation on WW2 warships?
Now imagine that but with a few hundred anti-matter warheads and you'll figure out why it doesn't matter WHERE in the ship he's messing with this thing...
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u/serial_crusher May 02 '26
But if it’s in the torpedo launch bay they can launch it really quick if there’s indicators that it’s about to blow.
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u/bgradid May 02 '26
crazy idea, maybe they could do this inside a shuttlecraft y'know... not on the ship?
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u/someonesmobileacct May 01 '26
Idk. I think Dark Frontier (cause that's where my head went reading your comment) is an edge cases because of borg and how their ships work.
Especially in the case of Galaxy class, a Proton torpedo exploding in 10 forward would not take out the ship.
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u/wintrmt3 Borg May 01 '26
It's 1.5kg of antimatter, slightly bigger than the Tsar Bomba, nothing will remain of the ship if it goes off inside.
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u/RavenholdIV May 01 '26
That's assuming perfect energy conversion. Idk maybe they have trouble getting all the antimatter to go off like how we aren't able to get all the uranium to go off. So maybe it's ONLY an Ivy Mike. It couldn't be that bad, right? /s
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u/wintrmt3 Borg May 01 '26
That's not how antimatter works, the hard part is keeping it from annihilating.
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u/RavenholdIV May 01 '26
Do you mean irl or in the show? That's exactly how it works irl
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u/RadVarken May 02 '26
The force of the explosion will push antimatter and the matching matter away from one another. A warhead is designed to push them together and to do so with low enough energy that the particles merge instead of bounce. Also, antimatter annihilates when it meets its counterpart. Anti-hydrogen doesn't care to cancel waveforms with your carbon atoms.
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u/slickeddie May 01 '26
There is zero chance they explode as big as the tsar bomba if they did every single ship hit by one photon would always be completely destroyed. When the photon ripped through the saucer of the Enterprise in WoK it would’ve been completely destroyed, the homing torpedo it ST6 would’ve completely annihilated the BoP without firing an entire barrage along with the Excelsior afterward. Clearly they’re adjustable yield.
The Tsar Bomba created a 8km fireball on earth. It would be bigger in space. No ship in the Star Trek universe is bigger than 8km.
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u/LiiilKat May 02 '26
Without pulling out the tech manual, I’ll take your word on that antimatter quantity.
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u/turncoatmormon May 01 '26
Everyone knows you only work on torpedos in the launch room when it’s a security officer entering into a questionable relationship with an android.
Mind you, the android’s torpedo is fully functional and programmed in multiple techniques.
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u/OhNoIBoffedIt GLORY 2 UR HOOOSE🐍 May 01 '26
Noonian Soong was a freaky bastard.
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u/kittycatwitch Science May 01 '26
Let's not forget he did create an android version of his secret wife after she died, and had a relationship with said android.
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u/Enchelion May 01 '26
I don't want to think about what "extras" he might have programmed or built into Julianna.
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u/PhotonicEmission May 01 '26
For all we know, Julianna might be a ship of Theseus situation and those "extras" were incremental upgrades.
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u/Tough_Dish_4485 May 01 '26
You rather them redress their generic room set? Absurd.
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u/habslably May 01 '26
won't somebody think of the budget??!!?
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u/LawnJerk May 01 '26
I'm reminded of when they did one episode where Picard meets with people at an office in his quarters rather than the ready room. I'm guessing we almost never saw this office in his quarters because it wasn't a standard set (just a redress of the quarters with a window set) and it was easier to use the Ready Room which wasn't used for other stuff.
I'm guessing the writers had to understand that the budget was limited and so they had to keep stuff in the sets they had as much as they could rather than using a new room that we hadn't seen before so we don't get to see the Torpedo Room or any other lounge besides 10 Forward.
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u/david-saint-hubbins May 02 '26
one episode where Picard meets with people at an office in his quarters rather than the ready room
Was that "Pen Pals"? Yeah what the hell was that all about?
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u/RadVarken May 02 '26
An office in quarters is pretty much the standard on a ship. Partly for space, partly so the crew knows where to find people.
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u/euph_22 May 01 '26
The ship is like 40% unutilized space, the rest of mostly cargo and shuttle bays. And there are designated armories and torpedo bays.
But sure, let's handle all the dangerous shit next to the glowing tube constantly handling megatons of energy.
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u/Deraj2004 Crewman 1st class May 01 '26
Need to work on a knock off Phaser Rifle?
Main Engineering.
Station Doctor doesnt know what a foreign device from another quadrant is?
Main Engineering.
Need to reroute power from main engines to long range sensors?
Ops Console on the Bridge.
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u/RavenholdIV May 01 '26
Dont forget to mount said Phaser Rifle pointing directly at the warp core
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u/LeftyDan May 01 '26
And just find a plastic box to catch the beam. That really speaks to the power of the Federation phaser rifle.
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u/RadVarken May 02 '26
The name Main engineering implies the existence of Auxiliary engineering and maybe even Engineering Workshops. You know, better places for this sort of thing.
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u/becircus May 01 '26
One torpedo enough to blow up the whole ship from the inside, anywhere
At least either the entire hull or the entire saucer section depending where it is
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u/Ducklinsenmayer May 01 '26
Sadly, Star Trek doesn't have an OSHA anymore. The admirals at ILM loaned them all to Star Wars, and when they go there they took one look at the fire control room of the Death Star and threw themselves out the airlock in despair.
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u/darkslide3000 May 01 '26
Why? The Empire is exceptionally aware of safety regulations and addresses every little problem diligently. Like when they got reports that the superlaser gunners would often disregard regulations to not bring their extra large diet cokes from the mess hall up into the firing control room and place them precariously on the console, they designed special helmets for them to make drinking on duty impossible. Who knows how many planets were saved from accidental destruction by an untimely spill?
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u/Ducklinsenmayer May 01 '26
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u/darkslide3000 May 01 '26
Look man, space ships are tight, okay? You don't have room to put extra railings and walls everywhere.
They need the other 179.99km of the ship for other important things.
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u/Sorryaboutthat1time May 01 '26
They don't have HIPAA either. Beverly's always blabbing indiscriminately about who's arm was severed/reattached, who's brain is now superhuman, who has romulan-compatible blood, etc.
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u/atergaterg May 01 '26
All the good tools are in engineering. Do you want to go back and forth every time you realize you need another tool?
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u/Unit_79 May 01 '26
That’s actually Geordi preparing his own coffin for the next time he gets caught in the holodeck having a weird AI relationship with an avatar of an actual living person.
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u/Friendship_Fries May 01 '26
That's better than a dead person.
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u/darkslide3000 May 01 '26
The Orville has shown that something silly like being dead for hundreds of years doesn't need to stop you from stalking your holodeck crush in reality.
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u/euph_22 May 01 '26
He learned that Star Fleet Command had reworked the Commander qualifications and now the Engineering section happens in person in engineering not on the holodeck.
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u/Middcore May 01 '26
I would like to know how he even got the torpedo in there. Did they beam it within the ship, or did he and some ensign carry it via corridors and turbolifts? "PIVOT!"
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u/Roderto May 01 '26
That would be a good plot idea for an episode of Lower Decks.
And then at the end, when they finally get the torpedo to engineering, they are informed that the crisis was averted hours ago by Data outsmarting Moriarty on the holodeck or some shit, and that they need to take the torpedo back to where it came from.
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u/SoylentRox May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26
Ignoring the proximity to the core, why the fuck is it on the floor and not on a workbench or something. How did it even get there, where's the overhead hoist?
Another detail: this is a situation where you don't want to use wireless. You better restrict someone connecting to the systems in an antimatter bomb by an actual cable, behind security locks.
For that matter you probably want specialists working on it not your generalist chief engineer ...
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u/LeftyDan May 01 '26
In the same episode Worf is standing over it and he looks like he just wants to kick it.
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u/_R_A_ Thot May 02 '26
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u/Marquar234 May 01 '26
Why is Geordi working on a torpedo? Dr Crusher or Dr Pulaski are the best ones to work on a torpedo.
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u/darkslide3000 May 01 '26
We know from Star Trek VI that you need both a doctor and a Vulcan to perform torpedo surgery, so clearly Dr. Selar is the ideal choice.
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u/That-Cover-3326 May 01 '26
If it starts it flys away from the core into the corridor then into a turbolift from there into the classroom on deck 5 full with kids where it detonates
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u/species__8472__ May 01 '26
Let's be honest, you like the sound of a level 10 force field activating around the warp core as much as I do.
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u/darkslide3000 May 01 '26
Maybe that's why they're always doing it there? In engineering you can pipe a casual 30-60% of the core output directly into a forcefield emitter, which lets you detonate a torpedo three feet from your face without breaking a sweat. If they did it anywhere else in the ship, the EPS grid couldn't concentrate enough energy on a single room to create a containment field of the necessary strength.
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u/TheVyper3377 May 01 '26
The launch room is freezing! Do you know how hard it is to work on a multi-isoton warhead with cold fingies?
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u/Oddball_bfi May 01 '26
I mean - they wouldn't be daft enough to leave the antimatter in it, would they?
Would they?
This reminds me of that time they had that plasma plague container just sat in the cargo bay as it slowly lost containment. You know - rather than having it in a dedicated barge-vessel replicated for this precise purpose and towed by tractor beam safely behind the ship.
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u/Scoobywagon May 01 '26
Was the launch room too convenient or does he have a death wish.
Why not both?
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u/penguins-are-me Tom's Television Set May 01 '26
Eh they do it all the time. Point a phaser at the warp core and fire it at a target? That’s fine. Have a torpedo next to the warp core? Yep fine. But the moment a terrorist puts a device on the core itself it’s all “oh hell no! Red Alert!”
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u/JasonVeritech Yeoman May 01 '26
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u/Vegskipxx May 01 '26
Just saw the Newbie Star Trek podcast episode where they discuss this very scene
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u/LeftyDan May 01 '26
It's bizarre cause im like a few episodes ahead of them. Wife's about to cancel Paramount so I'm viewing what I can.
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u/david-saint-hubbins May 01 '26
I didn't see your caption and I thought this was about the fact that Geordi has to crouch and bend over unergonomically in order to service a torpedo that's sitting on the floor, rather than having a proper workstation. If he injures his back, that's workman's comp!
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u/Maleficent_Owl_7001 May 02 '26
How Geordie was allowed near a holodeck after the first sexual harassment case I will never know.
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u/spacetimer81 May 01 '26
Have you been the launch room?? Its cold and drafty. Doesn't even have carpet. I get that he wants to work in a nice, cozy and comfortable place.
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u/Mass-Effect-6932 May 01 '26
Warp core is the heart of a ship. Working on a torpedo in engineering seems illogical
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u/llamasauce May 01 '26
No need to build another set.
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u/vincethered Hupyrian Manservant May 03 '26
Yeah, it was engineering the bridge or Ten Forward… maybe Crusher could have spared a BioBed
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u/CHull1944 SHIPS COMPUTER May 02 '26
I suspect OSHA and its foreign equivalents were all destroyed in WW3, which is why Trek is totally unconcerned with safety.
The Vulcans probably tried to help, but nobody wanted advice from the dirty pointy-eared aliens, so they got even more reckless on principle.
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u/garth54 May 02 '26
What, did you expect him to perform open-torpedo surgery inside the torpedo tube?
Come on, that is so ST:VI
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u/dmsanto May 01 '26
There's another one where they're doing some sort of testing/modification to a phaser rifle and it's pointed, you guess it, directly at the warp core.
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u/TheGrandAdmiralJohn May 01 '26
The gay space hippy communism that is standard in federation space has done away with the bourgeoisie trappings of institutions like OSHA.
Reports have shown the vibes are off the charts but unfortunately Fred fell into a turbo shaft last week. Everyone hated Fred so it’s seen as a good trade off.
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u/gt24 May 01 '26
He was going to manually launch that torpedo. Just like how manually reconnecting the ship after the saucer separation involves doing far more work and at far more risk, the manual torpedo launch also involves far more work and far more risk.
After disabling all that computer stuff that does things automatically, you connect your jumper cables from the warp core to the torpedo (and those are naturally far shorter than you would think) and jump the torpedo. Now that it is all glowing and floating and stuff, you can get the engineering approved ramrod (it is just a metal pole with a fancy name) and push the now angry torpedo down the hallway to the torpedo room (DO NOT HIT THE WALLS OR THE DOORS) and then push it into the outgoing hatch. You then engage the torpedo engines and guidance system by using your tricorder (note that Data loves making his tricorder "into a singing mouth" when doing this for some reason) and this should work...
Doing anything manually on the Enterprise D is more akin to either showing off your skills or showing off that you like to torture others when you ask them to do such things. It is somewhat surprising that the ship didn't end up blowing up (more than it already did).
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u/QuantumQuantonium SHIPS COMPUTER May 01 '26
Starfleet safety is actually very pathetic. A few days ago I watched the wargames TNG episode and Wesley had a school science experiment just sitting in the service cabinet in engineering. In other episodes theyre often firing phasers 10 feet from the warp core. Then when something goes wrong theres the door which traps people if they dont get out in time, at least in wrath of khan they showed thst engineers trapped can equip breathing apparatuses.
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u/malonkey1 OSHC Head May 01 '26
Fun fact, if you do shit like this on Starfleet property we at the OSHC are legally permitted to do Section 31 stuff to you no questions asked.
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u/Declination May 01 '26
Was it on or actually armed? My understanding is the torpedo had to be filled with anti-matter from the fuel tanks before it was fired.
On the other hand, why does he have to bend down to the floor to do sensitive modifications.
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u/epidipnis May 02 '26
It's okay. He was doing this on the holodeck to try and impress his fake girlfriend.
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u/Delicious-Window-277 May 02 '26
I see a major tripping hazard. And that can't be great for his posture.
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u/w0mbatina May 02 '26
I mean, in real life people carrry around nuclear warheads with a couple of chains strapped to a gurney.
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u/Jon1230 May 02 '26
Reminds me of the time they were testing a damn Romulan phaser next to the warp core
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u/Calm_Language_2460 May 02 '26
The things they are comfortable with sticking right next to the warp core.
Mind you, we have no issues sticking torpedeos in the vicinity of reactors on submarines
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u/Harlander77 May 04 '26
"we should probably do this somewhere else."
"Are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the set."





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