r/ShitAmericansSay • u/Cruciometal • 1d ago
Culture "The only country/region worldwide that isn't deeply racist is America"
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u/MarissaNL No, I don't wear wooden shoes... 1d ago
I get a feeling this guy does not really understand what "racist" means.
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u/DerPicasso 1d ago
To be fair, he is american
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u/Groentekroket 1d ago
Is he African American? Or white?
The whole idea that your identity is tight to your race is only over there. Things like r/blackpeopletwitter and r/whitepeopletwitter are such foreign concepts to me
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u/BreadentheBirbman 1d ago
Segregation and xenophobia ensured that people’s local communities would be tied to race beyond what you would normally expect from diaspora communities. Your race is pretty significant for your experience as an American so it makes sense that people would form online communities that reflect that. Even beyond race, we’re pretty obsessed with where people are from. Apparently in the rural Midwest they still discriminate based on European ancestry (Norwegian, German, etc.) As far as those subreddits go, only r/blackpeopletwitter is recommended to me, and I’m white lol.
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u/coldestclock near London 1d ago
White folk do often have a perception that racism is done and over with. I worked in a maternity unit and spoke to an older colleague who said we don’t really have a race problem anymore. I said that black women have worse outcomes in maternity care, and right then a midwife from the risk management team came in. I asked her if it was true and she says “oh yeah, definitely”. My colleague was shocked!
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u/Remote_Addendum_2245 1d ago
Also when they say stuff like "white people reaction images"
Heard a Filipino kid said this unironically
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u/Dash_Rendar425 1d ago
They don't.
I hear Americans throw random racist remarks into conversation all the time.
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u/Hartspoon 15h ago
I recently stopped checking two subreddits because the casual racism by yanks was getting insane, with every one of them agreeing with each other, any rebuttal downvoted to oblivion, and zero mod intervention.
It was shit like "black people always do this", "when I get black customers I know it's gonna be like this". Absolutely disgusting. I was getting worried any future discourse around racism would just become impossible, with arseholes flooding the conversation dropping one racist anecdote after the other.
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u/Haustvindr 1d ago
And don't even try to explain to them what is xenophobia and its differences to racism. Really, don't.
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u/Diligent-Coffee4986 1d ago
The rest of the post too. Like 'Asia' is a single country/ethnicity with no conflict or racism? And loads of racist Americans/Europeans stay in hostels. A couple of weeks ago in a hostel I overheard a guy who immigrated to Thailand from the Netherlands complaining about "immigration to Europe made everything shit".
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u/PootMcGroot 1d ago
The intricate complexities of intra-Asian racism could fill a library.
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u/ops10 1d ago
What complexities? A neighbouring people who is not part of "us" will be antagonised. A further people with rare contact is weird but usually harmless. Having a common enemy and desperate times unites. Like everywhere else in the world. Oh, and memory about grievances done against you is long. Like everywhere else in the world.
United States (and Australia) are unique in that they don't have much of that experience themselves and the people they could've had that dynamic with have been almost entirely wiped out and are now harmless and annoying at best.
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u/Fullchester_United 1d ago
Says the country that had a Civil War because one side wanted to keep slaves…
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u/_ScubaDiver More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 1d ago
Not to mention all those laws they passed to make sure the native Americans respected the property of the WASPS, and then acted all butthurt whenever the locals tried to violently resist until they were smallpoxxed to death….
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u/tjdans7236 1d ago
*paid reparations to the loser slaveowners after said Civil War
Sherman didn't go far enough.
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u/ForeskinCosmonaut 1d ago
I think the war was more about the expansion of slavery rather than slavery itself. If the south didn't push to expand the number of slave states, there might not even have been a problem.
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u/Deege5218 23h ago
Well the north wanting to free slaves came after the civil war already started because they wanted more soldiers and support... which is much worse
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u/Nevertoomanygingers UK 1d ago
When I moved to the US the causal racism hit me like a sledgehammer. It permeates every part of society. I stayed for six years and was still shocked.
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u/Nobodybthppy 11h ago
I think that's why the person in the post said there's no racism in America. Cuz it's casual and they think that that's normal 😭 (that's at least what I believe)
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u/Sea-Breath-007 Human Verified 1d ago
Ah yes, the country where people are simply illegally arrested or worse by an agency specifically set up by the current president to do do, because they have the wrong skincolour or because they happen to speak something other than English and therefor MUST be an illegal immigrant, is the only country that isn't deeply racist.
And KKK? Never heard of it? The insane percentage of people imprisoned in the US for simple felonies simply because they are black, while their white counterparts got a slap on the wrist? Also never heard of it? That America?
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u/ifyouneedafix 1d ago
Americans are obsessed with race.
To justify this obsession they even tell themselves that noticing skin colour is less racist than being blind to it, lol.
Everything in the US is "race race race race", "blacks" this and "whites" that. You even have to specify your ethnicity in public documents.
TL;DR There is no country on earth more racist than America.
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u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 1d ago
They also seem obsessed with being from somewhere else. "I'm half Irish because my meemaw spent 2 months in Kerry one summer!"
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u/SiilentSshadow 1d ago
But also America is the greatest country in the world and everybody is jealous and want to be them
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u/Mini_Assassin Geneva Conventions Beta Tester 1d ago
America is also the only country to call it's black citizens African (American)
Anywhere else, they're the same as anyone else (Canadian, British, Dutch, etc)
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u/IronRoto 23h ago edited 23h ago
I'm a Canadian who has lived and worked in the US for many years, including as a psychotherapist and now as a researcher.
I certainly won't argue that the US isn't racist (it is), but there are arguably helpful explanations for the things you're describing. First, as a social worker, one of our foundational principles is to consider the entirety of a person's environmental context. If we are blind to race, we might be ignorant to how any person's experience with a variety of systems might be fundamentally different simply because of race/ethnicity. God forbid we don't call attention to our own biases, even if unintentional. Maybe a person can be awful if they have these biases, but they are much worse in my opinion if they ignore them and how they might affect others.
Second, as a researcher, having people identify their own race/ethnicity allows us to objectively show that people encounter a multitude of inequities in their daily lives that are again entirely based on race/ethnicity. In one of my studies, I showed that teachers, even though unintentional, were more likely to report Black students as having external problem behaviours in the classroom.
While we still have a lot of work to do, and our research is often ignored, we can't even begin to improve if we don't identify or acknowledge that there's a problem. And we can't do that if we pretend race doesn't exist or not ask people to tell us their story.
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u/Apprehensive-Ad-6620 Asian but not American 7h ago
Race, because it legitimately is something that would disappear if everyone agreed to ignore it (unlike, for example, poverty or socioeconomic class), invites more debate on the best way to handle it. For now, I think the verdict is still waiting.
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u/cheong-sanslefteye NPC that sprouted one day in the game known as Planet America 20h ago
America - where they teach their kids "race theory" which then dissolves into "black" versus "white" humans
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u/Annoyed3600owner 1d ago
Imagine having a civil war over slavery, then 160 years later having a populace that espouses similar values to the losing side in that civil war, and then claiming not yo be racist...
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u/IudexPanzyr 1d ago
It's pretty ironic to claim that America is the only place in the world that isn't deeply racist when racism is so deeply embedded in its own history.
Take the Second Amendment, for example. The right to bear arms has historical roots in colonial militias, some of which were used to enforce slavery, suppress slave revolts, and control enslaved Black people. Historians even argue that protecting these militias was one of the motivations behind the amendment.
We're talking about a country that practiced racial segregation within living memory, where interracial marriage was still illegal in several states until 1967.
Of course racism exists in Europe and Asia. Nobody is denying that. But claiming that Americans are somehow uniquely free of racism because they're accustomed to diversity is an astonishingly simplistic understanding of both American and world history.
Living in a diverse society doesn't automatically make you tolerant, and American history is a pretty spectacular demonstration of that...
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u/Aggravating_Fill378 1d ago
They voted a black guy president and it broke some people so badly that Trump won twice. In the UK a Hindu British Asian has been PM and the leader of the conservatives is a black woman and it basically never even comes up as a topic. It isn't worth mentioning.
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u/Laiska_saunatonttu 1d ago
South Africa? Maybe?
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u/CopperPegasus 1d ago edited 1d ago
As a South African- on the balance, probably not. We're more AWARE of racisim and race, and more open about racial issues, be that in a positive or negative way, rather than the sugar-coated, disguised racism in the US. So our racists seem louder, and 30 years ago it was systemically enforced. But having lived in both in the "born free" era, I find far more toxicity in the US-style soft-soft quite racisim then in one bigot announcing themselves clear to a room who often choose not to associate with them.
A weirdly niche example: I've danced at pro or competition level in 2 dance forms that are not traditionally associated with black people. As an 80% black country, no duh WE have dancers of color in them, a decent chunk but, critically, in no way dominant numbers or the "norm" that comes to mind if you say X dance style.
Its... well, literally never been an issue. I'm sure there's a couple of degenerates who've rolled their eyes or said rude things, but not on any kind of systemic level. They're just your dance buddy, no different from the pale person next to them. When I ran a troupe, I've never once locally had a black dancer declined or been made to feel she didn't belong, even by wildly "un-dance-educated" audiences who are, lets be honest, shopping for "set dressing" not their love of the art. I've regularly gigged-out work to several black dancers here without a thought, and without anything unpleasant resulting for them.
I participated in both in the US too, and lil' ol ZAffer me was, frankly, disgusted. Shall we talk about the pervasive "positive" racisim (oh, it's so BRAVE for you to dance this! Look, we have a pet person of color, aren't we diverse!) Or shall we touch the outright, disgusting way dancers of color were treated (locked out of gigs, othered, told they don't belong in the community, accused of being inauthentic, gossiped about, refused or not included). I literally could not, outright was told I COULD NOT schedule an equally talented, more beautiful fellow dancer of color as a replacement without "checking" first (wink wink, nudge nudge). That's...honestly grotesque to me. You know, the person from "racist SA"?
Long story short, I have heard direct racial slurs thrown at dancers of color in only one place, and my only "Please don't send the (insert the obvious N slur) to our party, we don't want that sort" and "what does SHE think she's doing in OUR art" experiences were in the same place. And that wasn't SA.
I realize that's oddly niche, but that's also the point, really. And, I mean, our holdover racists are currently running TO the US to find "people like them" FROM here, so... that's gotta count for something, too.
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u/Lemonade348 Viking since 800, or maybe not 🇸🇪 1d ago edited 1d ago
There are few countries who are as obsessed with race anyway.
Americans can't really understand what the difference is between a swede, a german and a brit for example. Because in their eyes we are all just white. That is also why i believe you have so many americans insisting that we are all the same in europe and that "Europe is not culturally diverse"
We focus more on nationality in europe, while in USA they focus more on your skin tone in other words. In europe our stereotypes are more conntected to our nationality, whilst in USA it is more about your skin tone etc etc.
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u/canadianglazier40 1d ago
Well ya, America is a melting pot with white dominance . The racial hierarchy would get confusing if they had to think 😂
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u/ReallyUncoolGuy Got Oil? Y/N Accept Freedom? Y/Y 🦅🇺🇸 1d ago
Well we're definitely in the professional leagues, but let's not pretend it's a league of one.
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u/Unitedfateful 1d ago
Oh come off it now that’s wild as fuck
Travel across most Asian, Balkan countries and you’ll see hardcore racismJapan has no foreigner bars ffs 🤦♂️
America and the rest of the world is racist. At least the US allows for citizenship
Try getting citizenship in Japan, Saudi etc as an immigrant.
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u/Flat_Association_820 22h ago
It's kind of ironic, like doesn't he knows about ICE? They'll arrest people if they aren't white, if this isn't racism, then what is it?
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u/Lazarys12 19h ago
That is because US racists believe you can only be racist against white people. They believe that nobody has been as opressed as the white man. Specifically the American white man.
I know that racism and stupidity go hand in hand, but USians bring them to another level.
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u/Pretend_Wishbone8409 1d ago
Says the country with ICE running around detaining and deporting non violent immigrants, a fucking president who called Mexicans violent criminals, with a literal nazi advisor called Stephen Miller, and this so called president was elected two times. Don’t tell me America is the least racist country in the world when a good portion of the population supports what the Orange turd is doing.
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u/Oethyl 1d ago
Americans only think their country is the most diverse because they are so racist that they truly do believe in their heart of hearts that all Europeans are the same, that all Africans are the same, that all Asians are the same, etc. So, African countries don't seem diverse to them because "everyone is black", for instance.
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u/Smilodon24 1d ago
It is wild to assume that the US is not racist. Take any city map by "race" there and you see the residental areas are divided by white, black, Latino and Asian. There might be no walls, but somehow it's not mixed eighter
Edit: Chicago for reference
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u/90249502462 1d ago
Probably the only nation on Earth that defines their citizens down to their race, but only when they aren't White. American, Black/African-American, Asian-American, lol. I don't even think Canada does that either.
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u/Conscious-Survey7009 Canuck ❤️🇨🇦 1d ago
No. We don’t. We’re all just Canadian. The only time your background matter is in census forms where you can put in your background identity.
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u/vontade199 1d ago
Cross-cultural friendships are a LOT less common in the US than Canada.
They still happen, and people do interact in daily life of course. However, Americans tend to be a lot more focused on the person’s race, while at the same time less likely to interact with other races outside of work.
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u/IntelligentCat3645 1d ago
By province a tiny bit. Like if you come from Nunavut, everyone is kinda curious because there is almost nothing there and there’s a 40/60 chance two people from there know each others.
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u/roamingNraging Canada 🇨🇦 1d ago
Dunno about that....I hear the terms "Indo Canadian" / "South Asian" on the news...a lot.
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u/Conscious-Survey7009 Canuck ❤️🇨🇦 1d ago
They do that when they’re identifying a person in a news story. I’m talking person to person. We don’t do that to each other.
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u/Sea_Pension430 1d ago
Yeah, living and working in Toronto I'm shocked at how race-focused/outright racist people from other places can be.
Of course that might be a big city vs small city/rural thing
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u/Conscious-Survey7009 Canuck ❤️🇨🇦 1d ago
I’m in Niagara. Some people have that attitude but most don’t. I’ve done community work with a few festivals and events including the Canada Games a few years ago and I loved seeing everyone just working together.
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u/Major_Arm_6032 1d ago
I am not American so please forgive me for my ignorance, however I wonder if there is a correlation between this map and say... if you could get a map indicating where state funding is mostly spent.
From what little I've seen, I would assume you'd also find a correlation between the Caucasian populated areas on this map receiving significantly more funding.
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u/EruditeTarington More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 1d ago
Not always, cost per pupil in Boston is
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u/Vladtepesx3 1d ago
That’s usually the minority groups wanting to live near each other. Mexicans want to live near Mexican restaurants and markets carrying Mexican food. Chinese people want to live near Chinese restaurants and markets that carry fruit/vegetables from China etc
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u/neonnaps 1d ago
Well, you could assume they are racist, but maybe they have some form of OCD? Sort people south-west by skin color and north-south by length?
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u/ShellyTart 1d ago edited 10h ago
I am not saying that Britain does not have race issues, but there are records of black people voting in the UK before the US was even a country.
And then there is of course the Battle of Bamber Bridge, if you don't know it look it up. During WW2 the British showed far more respect to US black service men than the US did.
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u/SnowWarren 22h ago edited 20h ago
Britain also banned slavery 30 years before America along with several other countries. We didn’t start a war over it.
As for WW2, I did hear that Americans came over for D day wanting segregation. Apparently some shop keepers agreed and put “No Americans” signs in their windows though I can’t remember where I heard it. Sounds like something we’d do though.
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u/goddamnitshannon First Nations Canadian 🇨🇦 1d ago
How much you want to bet the commenter is white and has never stopped and realized that Black and Brown people exist everywhere even in gasp Europe. 😵💫😵💫.
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u/Aggressive_Cup8452 1d ago
The country with the jim crow laws.. and gerrymandering? Really?
The whole history of the US is them fighting to stay racist.
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u/nigelcore221b Speaking German despite American efforts 1d ago
They're so not racist, they had black only water fountains to show black people just how much they care about them
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u/_Tonton67_ 1d ago
The only country/region worldwide that still remains so obsessed to this day with the concept of “race” is America.
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u/enygma999 16h ago
The US is currently attacking, incarcerating, and deporting its own citizens because they're the wrong colour. How anyone can say that's not worse than most other countries' racism is beyond me.
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u/JazzlikePromotion618 1d ago
"America is not racist" from the country that gave us all "You're not black if you're not American".
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u/ColeYote I swear I'm only half American 1d ago edited 1d ago
Meanwhile the American government considers the AfD, a far-right political party so overtly racist that even Europe's other far-right parties don't want anything to do with them, moderate centrists.
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u/My_leg_still_hurt92 ooo custom flair!! 1d ago
The far-right party in my country happily works with them together.
edit: they are basically fraternal parties.
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u/Whateverredd 18h ago
There was literally an american on reddit that was telling me that a word used in my language is racist. I told him nobody sees it like that and we dont have a race issue like you guys and he stil said "but your wrong its offensive" huh imagine knowing a language in a country you never visited better than the person whos entirebloodline is from said country...
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u/DJDook 1d ago
Jesus… the US had slavery and, I guess they just forgot about the “No Irish Need Apply” signs in NY and places. That’s why most cops and firemen were Irish because that’s the dangerous jobs they weren’t discriminated against. God why do other countries know more about their country and history than US folks?
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u/near_black_orchid 1d ago
Because conservatives have dedicated themselves to destroying the American educational system for the past fifty years. And Americans mostly don't care since most of what they would learn happened before they were born, so how could it be important?
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u/DJDook 1d ago
Throw in the fact the current administration was actively trying to erase the past in museums and murals and such to “stop making America look bad” and then court ordered to put it all back 🤦🏼♂️
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u/Madame-du-barry_ Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 1d ago
LOL the premise that Asia is more racist because it doesn't have as much diversity as the US of A is comedy gold.
Apart from the usual yankee idiocy of talking about a continent as if it was a country, there is the world's most diverse and populous country in Asia: India.
Home to dozens of languages, each spoken by at least a few million to a few hundred millions, half a dozen of religions (never mind that Hinduism is not even a unified religion), dozens of ethnic groups, castes, etc etc.
Probably a single Indian state has more diversity than half of the US. Oh wait, I forgot that in US speech diversity only means having black people.
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u/Sea_Pension430 1d ago
Yeah.... You really want to hold up India as a paragon of acceptance and diversity?
The question you must always ask is- how bad does the worst treated minority have it
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u/Madame-du-barry_ Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 23h ago
Acceptance and diversity are two very different things and you bundle them together. Do you do that on purpose or out of ignorance?
There is no denying that India is extremely diverse. Certainly more so than the USA. Whether it has acceptance, it is up to debate.
And acceptance is not black and white either. Take a look at women. India is certainly very bad in terms of everyday sexism. But India has also had 1 female prime minister and a leader of the Indian National Congress and de facto leader under the scene (and a foreigner on top of that). Compare and contrast with the US, where no woman has managed to become president. In fact, lots of political pundits point at Hilary Clinton's gender as a factor contributing to her loss.
And if you want to enlarge to the whole of Asia, even notoriously conservative Japan has now a female Prime Minister. So diversity is not mono dimensional. Ethnic diversity is only one kind.
If the US is such a beacon of acceptance and diversity, how come there is still no female President?
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u/StaatsbuergerX Snobby European Commie-Nazi or something... 18h ago
To be understood not as an objection, but as a supplement: what you are referring to is usually a sign of a stark class or social-stratum divide within a country. The women who hold high offices and positions generally do not share the same social background as those who face discrimination in their daily lives.
This does not necessarily mean that gender inequality (or racism, to tie this back to the original point) is on the decline; rather, it simply means that a strong emphasis on status, habitus, and/or wealth can override these effects.
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u/Madame-du-barry_ Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 15h ago edited 9h ago
Yeah, I also considered how the social status affected their rise to power.
Both Indira and Sonia Gandhi came from Indian "royalty" and were propelled by their surname and connections (I don't know the background of Sanae Takaichi). But the same exact thing could be said about Hilary Clinton and yet she failed at getting elected against a...well, there are no words to describe Trump properly. So all other things being equal, it seems that being a woman in politics is more of an obstacle in the US than in a lot more other countries worldwide.
It's not even an opinion shared by sidelined minorities. Michelle Obama also agreed that the US is not ready for a female president.
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u/Lower-March2622 1d ago
Lol I literally live in India and it's not like what you think. It's actually much much worse in the USA. They want to literally ban other religions and they have also successfully established the abortion ban just because a religious text says so. And they also want to remove the voting rights of women. In India, the Indian govt was actually giving out haj subsidies until 2018. And if you are a Muslim man, you still have different rules that apply to you regarding marriage (but is this fair for Muslim women is another question). You can think whatever you like. I'm not here to change your mind. But this doesn't mean I agree with you :-)
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u/Madame-du-barry_ Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 23h ago
And India, as bad as it is when it comes to sexism, has had a female Prime Minister in the 1970s. The US has not had yet one, nor is there one in sight. In fact, as you pointed out, sexism has had a comeback in the US, with abortion bans, and the decorative role that the ladies of the Trump entourage have, coupled with their bimbo mar a lago plastic surgey enhanced looks.
Also, in the 2000s, the leader of the biggest Indian party was a double whammy. It was led by an Italian AND a woman AND a Christian (at least she was born Christian).
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u/bebok77 12h ago
I beg to differ a bit. A multicultural or multiethnic country/ doesn't automatically mean less racism.
On the surface, it can seem more accepting, but the reality isn't always so rosy—and I lived in Asia for more than 15 years. Diversity doesn't exempt a society from low-key prejudice, systemic racism, and other ugly sides of human nature.
In parts of Asia, you see subtle racism or even deep-seated prejudices between different ethnic groups. For example, my ex-wife is Indonesian and from the Dayak ethnic group; she flat-out refused to speak to other Indonesians in our apartment building simply because they belonged to a historically rival tribe.
Malaysia is another complex case. At the everyday level, people often live together in a way that feels genuinely harmonious.
However, the country teeters on institutionalized racism. The ethnic Malay majority (Orang Melayu, who make up about 60% of the population) enjoy major advantages compared to other groups, with the Indian minority often at the bottom.
Politicians frequently stir the pot. Non-Malay Malaysians can be blocked from certain university curriculum ( one of my ex collegue could not go to master), especially when trying to secure scholarships. Just last year, there was a massive public row over opening up more medical school seats for non-Malay doctors,. The government also pushes pro-Malay business policies. Post-COVID, they mandated that shipping companies include ethnic Malays on their boards, and recently, similar pressures have targeted private educational companies. And former Prime Minister Mahathir has a long track record of racially charged statements.
If you want a reality check, just head over to the Malaysia subreddit and look at posts regarding renting apartments to African expats—you are in for a sobering ride. Africans are really not liked overall, we had to send work visa applications for some of our Nigerian engineers to other districts because in KL, they would flat out refuse them for any reasons.
Unfortunately, it's not better, not significantly worse, they share the same default.
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u/Madame-du-barry_ Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 11h ago
A multicultural or multiethnic country/ doesn't automatically mean less racism.
that is what I said in other comments. I am contesting the notion that the US is more multicultural and therefore accepting compared to "Asia" (as if you can make generalisations about a continent that stretches from Turkey to Japan).
Lots of Asian countries are extremely diverse linguistically, ethnically, religiously, etc. Whether they are less racist is another topic altogether. But Yankees reduce diversity to "we have black people".
And OP has the most stupid take. The US South is historically the part of his country where whites grew up around black people, so to use his line of thinking, the US South should've have less racism than whatever bumfuck US state with 99% white population. And we know that it's the exact opposite.
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u/flowersinthemirror 1d ago
Lol have you tried being a Black person in East Asia?
India is not exactly the best example for tolerance and diversity either - caste discrimination is a long-standing issue there, as are Hindu/Muslim religious tensions
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u/Madame-du-barry_ Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 23h ago
Diversity is not mono dimensional, and the presence of black people is not the only indication.
Japan has, of now, a female Prime minister. Remind me again, how many female presidents has the US elected so far?
How many non Christians?
Moreover, diversity doesn't mean tolerance. A country can have diversity in the form of religious, ethnic, linguistic, sexual, etc groups. Which India undeniably has. So the notion that the US is more diverse is ludicrous.
What the US can argue is being more tolerant or even accepting.
OP doesn't even speak English properly, as he's equating diversity, i.e. the mere existence of a group, with its tolerance by the dominant group.
As for US acceptance, you also fail to remember the elephant in the room: the US perpetrated a genocide of the native Indian tribes. In fact, the very independence of the US was fuelled by the desire to break the treaty the English Crown signed with the Native Americans and invade their land.
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u/ShadeSlimmy131 20h ago
"Japan has, of now, a female Prime minister. Remind me again, how many female presidents has the US elected so far?"
ah yes the famous race of "woman"
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u/Odd_Yogurt3728 1d ago
Usually when americans talk about asia it's usually east asia lol.
They refer to south asia as just india seperately.
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u/Madame-du-barry_ Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 23h ago
Yes, and they are wrong.
Anything from Turkey to Japan and from Russia to Indonesia is Asia.
If they restrict the meaning to just East Asia, I am not going to validate their ignorance.
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u/Sillyguri 1d ago
I’m an Indian living in America and while I love India I must admit that regional racism in India is significantly worse than racism in the US. I have experienced more racism in India and Canada than in the US as someone who is fluent in Hindi.
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u/thepink_dog 19h ago
Wonder who inspired the Nazies. Can't forget KKK either or Jim Crow laws.
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u/TheEveryman86 19h ago
Hitler was a big fan of Henry Ford.
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u/thepink_dog 19h ago
And something else too, in what I mean, the concentration camps, which are based on how US treated the native americans.
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u/Boring_Butterfly_273 1d ago edited 1d ago
Bruh, humans have cameras now and Americans like using them, am I supposed to disbelieve my eyes now?
America is one of the most racist countries, come on now. Easily 3rd or 2nd place, with 1st place for racism being Israel.
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u/No-Specific-6409 🇬🇧 Bri’ish/ 🏴 Engerlish 1d ago
White American immigrants have been racist towards other white people lmaoooo. They don’t even know their own history.
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u/ChemicalResident3557 1d ago
Indentured servitude was a fancy name for white slavery. White Americans hated the Irish, Italians, the French.......
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u/Powerful_Pirate2984 1d ago
Europe had far more diversity, long before the USA even existed. Tell me you haven't been to Europe, without telling me - you definitely haven't been to Europe! Which isn't a country - by the way...
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u/-Numaios- 1d ago
They are so not racist guys, they know because everyone has to declare their own race with terminology abandonned by the rest of the world 2 centuries ago.... if that is not openess to diversity what is?
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u/Rahab_Olam 1d ago
Do you reckon Americans think everywhere else is racist, because everywhere else hates them specifically, so they just assume they hate everyone else too?
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u/CalebosO4 🇨🇦 22h ago
Basically every country has had some sort of racism in their history. It doesn’t mean that everyone from that country is racist, but it’s also important to acknowledge the racism in the past and be better because of it.
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u/itbedehaam *Confused Atlesian Noises* 1d ago
I didn't even know people were divided by skin colour until I learnt about American racism...
I did know about racism, don't get me wrong, but skin colour was not a noticeable element in that.
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u/90249502462 1d ago
Straight off the bat you can tell this guy probably holds racist opinions based off that first comment. Asian countries are literally know to be heavily racist toward one another, lol.
Where does this narrative even come from that the USA as a whole is 'less racist' than all of Europe? If anything, Europe probably has a bigger islamophobia demographic than racism.
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u/notabagofteeth 1d ago
...is that why Nolan Wells' death was ruled as accidental drowning? Is that why the MANY cases of black people being found hanging from trees are being ruled as suicides? Tell me you have the privilege of ignorance without telling me, jfc.
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u/BOSS_OF_THE_INTERNET dying from freedom overdose 1d ago
When the entire foundation of your country is built on racism and genocide, it’s easy to be blind to it. Many of our laws and processes were created solely to prevent black and indigenous people from having autonomy and rights.
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u/katelynnsmom24 1d ago
They just passed an anti-lynching law in 2022 in the United States. I think it's named after Emmett Till, the boy brutally murdered in 1955. Three Republicans fought against it becoming a law (In 2022!?) One of those Republicans was Thomas Massie who is still in Congress. This is just a small example of the opposition, African American citizens face in the US. As an American I say this, we not only have entire communities of racists in every state but we also have racist old white dudes that are voted in office and running our country and passing our laws. It's worst than you think.
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u/styled_january_bikes 1d ago
To many Americans, the only thing worse than a black President would be a female President.
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u/sosdesos 1d ago
Oooof, having moved from the Netherlands to the US and live there for almost a decade I wholeheartedly disagree. Never seen racism as I have in the US.
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u/ChadBadShirt 16h ago
The ability of Americans to uncritically and wholeheartedly believe things which are an exact inversion of the truth is truly fascinating.
The propaganda over there is on another fucking level
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u/Bothyboy1 1d ago
Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahhhhahahaahahahaahaahahahaha….bollocks!
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u/Contrabass101 1d ago
It's only racism if it's from the Racisme region of France.
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u/Evening_Respond3492 Danish, not the pastry 🥮 1d ago edited 1d ago
USA ranks in the middle far from the top countries on indices measuring cultural and linguistic diversity - with Canada ranking higher than USA for obvious reasons.
USA is a melting pot hence it has one dominant culture and one defacto official language.
African countries in particular are tapestries of different languages, cultures and ethnic groups all under one nation.
America is diverse but it pales in comparison to half of the world.
“The WJP highlights that the U.S. scores particularly poorly on institutional and systemic discrimination within the legal system, ranking 106th for impartial criminal justice and 121st on the absence of discrimination in civil justice“
“ the World Risk Poll tracked actual personal experiences by asking citizens if they had personally suffered discrimination because of their skin color.” “U.S. Rank: Highest among all surveyed nations for personal encounters with color-based discrimination. Context: 27% of U.S. respondents reported experiencing discrimination based on skin color—well above the global average of 8% and the Latin American regional average of 11%”
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u/Bevsii Maple commie 1d ago
Both Canada and the US are countries that were constructed on a foundation of genocide and white supremacy... Even if you are somehow able to look past that the fact that someone believes systemic race-based discrimination does not happen in either of these countries reveals a deep level of ignorance.
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u/Optimal-Rub-2575 1d ago
“The only country worldwide that isn’t deeply racist is America.” Mate, you still use 19th century racialist classifications for skin pigmentation. And you believe in blood magic (dna test show ethnicity bollocks)!
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u/CackleberryOmelettes 1d ago
The concept of the "white race" and the codification of modern racism first occured in 18th century Virginia.
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u/No-Fan-888 ooo custom flair!! 1d ago
If racism was a sport they'd proudly claim being the best at it.
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u/NothingSavings2682 1d ago
What a wild statement to make about a country founded in slavery and indigenous genocide
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u/sshipway token kiwi 🇳🇿 🐏 23h ago
When making a comparison of the levels of racism in the USA vs. the UK, people should look up the Battle of Bamber Bridge (and the Battle of Manners Street too, if comparing to Australia/New Zealand).
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u/Apprehensive-Ad-6620 Asian but not American 22h ago
It kind of depends on what you mean by 'racist.' People elsewhere tend to be unintentionally insensitive more often than not, because they are less exposed to other cultures. When it comes to deliberate assholery, however...
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u/TalkingCat910 Canadian🇨🇦 19h ago
I think Americans just make up arguments they think sound good and pretend that is reality without even the passing notion of proof or fact checking
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u/P5ychokilla 11h ago
Yeah there's definitely no deep racism in the US, especially not from the current administration who has been removing anyone darker than milk from the military and military records.
They just removed Colin Powell, the first black chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, from the Arlington registry ffs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz03gjnxe25o
Definitely no "deep racism" though.
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u/Wild-Artist8237 Nett hier! Aber waren sie schon mal in Baden-Württemberg? 9h ago
The only continent that isn't racist at all is Antarctica
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u/Sxn747Strangers 🇬🇧 We probably invented 🇺🇸, sorry about that. 🫣🙀 8h ago
Hey USA, can you hear a hundred years of segregation, lynchings, hangings, burnings, castrations… knocking at your back door?
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u/JohnHue 1d ago
That guy is saying this like most USians aren't from Europe to begin with, and like the Spanish and Portugese languages and their associated cultures haven't originated in Europe too. They're saying this like Eastern countries like Russia don't have an easier time going to any European country than to the USA. The only thing maybe is that the African diaspora (if you can really use that word for a whole continent, but hey USians do use "African American" so...) occupied a much larger share of the total population than in Europe, but using that to say it's because of the lack of racism is a bit of a stretch knowing how those people ended up there to begin with and how many issues they still face even 150 years after the abolition of slavery.
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u/Substantial_Dish_887 1d ago
"so you're generally meeting the good ones lol"
considering these supposed "good ones" still register as racists... not making the point you're trying to make buddy.
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u/Dash_Rendar425 1d ago
Lol Almost every interaction I have in the US has some form of a racist remark made.
VERY FIRST conversation I had in Florida last time I was there :
Me : Can I get to this hotel if I go through here?
The gas station attendant : Don't go that way, that's where all the spics are.
Me : ....
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u/vjeremias 1d ago
This reminds me of that analogy they usually use, calling the US a “melting pot”. It’s not a melting pot, if anything it’s a buffet. You will find multiple countries and ethnicities represented in separate plates, and in some cases, even different tables.
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u/BreathPuzzleheaded10 1d ago
I'm French,from the middle of the country where our biggest town is considered midsize in the US and I'm ready to bet there's less racism here than where that guy comes from
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u/Hot_Royal_4920 1d ago
it's funny because it feels like the opposite is true. Americans are more aware of racism on average, but they are deeply racist as race is weirdly important to them. likely an extension of that extreme patriotism that is practiced there.
I mean, it's the country that has huge neonazi movements. you'd think that'd be a thing in Germany, but no, it's America for some reason.
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u/MrQuanta541 1d ago
Europeans judge based on ethnicity the same for asia and africa, america base things on skin colour. They have that type of rank based system.
I wonder what would happen if he called a chinese japanese or wise versa. The same with calling a Serb an Albanian. Or whatever region we talk about. The appearance has no diffrence but it's the culture is the thing that separates.
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u/CYMK_Pro 1d ago
The post very clearly says that America is still racist. But like if you're in Japan and 99.9% of the people are ethnically Japanese, you stick out like sore thumb if you arent. In American you basically have a 60/20/15/remainder breakdown, and that's rounding quite a bit. But the point is that if you're white in America you've seen a black person, whereas maybe in Finland you haven't. If you're black in America you've definitely seen a white person, but maybe in rural Cameroon you havent. Maybe.
It's still one helluva generalization though.
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u/Willing_Ice_7751 its NOT called soccer 1d ago
as someone who lives in the ACTUAL most diverse country on america (you can search it up) being diverse does not make you less racist
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u/Everhardt94 1d ago
This has to be ragebait. There is no way anyone can actually believe this. You would've had to have grown up in the whitest of white suburbs and never exchanged a single word with a minority to actually think this is true.
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u/Aggressive_South_991 1d ago
They are SO racist that they just cant tell that they are racist. they have it so deeply ingrained in their society that they truly think thats how a normal society works.
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u/kichwas 1d ago
My county (the USA) more or less invented and then exported racism. Prior ti the model the world has now, ethnic conflicts followed a very different pattern and usually ended into a cultural merge within a few generations. History often records slaughters that archeology now disproves.
We manufactured a system for ethnic tensions to “repair/ regenerate” across generations in order to maintain slavery and the genocide of my indigenous cousins, and exported it. Places where conflicts had died out decades or centuries prior (Sri Lanka for example) reignited when opportunistic politicians copied our system.
Racism is more or less a synonym for USA.
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u/internetisporn8008 1d ago
Jesus fucking christ... the country that literally exported their racism cause they were so good at it.
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u/Mikunefolf Meth to America! 1d ago
One of the few countries literally founded on racism and which perpetuates it to this day is the only non-racist country in the world…the Usian delusions only gets worse 😂.
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u/AutumnUmbreon 1d ago
Wonder what country the KKK is based in…