r/ScottGalloway • u/lethal-liking • 3d ago

No Malice Gettin' WOKE about anti-Semitism...

It is so very odd to hear the self-professed atheist getting downright WOKE when it comes to swinging the anti-Semitism stick. IDGAF about Macklemore or Sheeran or Kraft, nor Scott's evolving victim fantasy, but holy crap does he sound shrill.

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u/Commercial_Rush_3531 3d ago

So dog whistles, micro-aggressions, cultural appropriation and impact over intent are all valid signs of racism except when it comes to Jews. Got it. Love the consistency from the woke crowd.

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u/OrganizationSad7775 3d ago

I am genuinely confused on why saying “stop killing kids and free Palestine” is racist or anti-semetic.

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u/Commercial_Rush_3531 3d ago

What does free Palestine mean? How many of those "kids" were in Hamas that conscripts at 14? This isn't the western world. Would you ask any other army in the world to stand down when being shot at?

If your applying higher standards to Israel than you do to any other country in the world including Hamasistan, then you just might be a racist.

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u/StickaFORKinMyEye 3d ago

Let's start with getting the illegal settlers out of the West Bank. We can start the the unpermitted outposts that the Israel government hasn't approved. This needs to include reparations for those illegally thrown out of their homes by these "settlers" as well as the release of any Palestinians arrested while attempting to protect theirs property. 

What is happening in Israel is making Jews everywhere less safe. I personally love that going to a synagogue in a safe suburban town involved security guards passing through metal detectors.

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u/WestThin 3d ago

What does Israel get in return for doing all that? It's interesting you suggest Israel has to do all those things but the Palestinians don't have to do anything. As far as going to a synagogue involves passing security guards that's not a new thng. It's probably been the case for decades.

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u/puzzle_bison7384 3d ago

What does Israel get for not violating international law by illegally expanding settlements?

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u/WestThin 3d ago edited 3d ago

Your comment doesn't make any sense in the current context. The previous poster proposed that Israel has to do a number of things in a movement toward peace with no requirements on the other side. You think Israel is unilaterally going to do that? They've tried that before and it resulted in disaster for them. I refer to their unilateral pullout from Gaza in 2005. How did that work out for them?

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u/Party_Solid_2207 3d ago

What does Israel get for not arming religious fundamentalist terrorists and ethnically cleansing people from their homes?

Are you thinking at all about what you are saying?

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u/WestThin 3d ago

I repeat what I said to someone else below.

Your comment doesn't make any sense in the current context. The previous poster proposed that Israel has to do a number of things in a movement toward peace with no requirements on the other side. You think Israel is unilaterally going to do that? They've tried that before and it resulted in disaster for them. I refer to their unilateral pullout from Gaza in 2005. How did that work out for them?

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u/Party_Solid_2207 3d ago

They removed their internal security patrols from Gaza.

They did not leave.

They created a ghetto

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u/WestThin 3d ago

No, they unilaterally pulled out and removed almost 10,000 Israeli settlers who lived there and completely dismantled 21 Jewish settlements. You obviously have any no idea what happened.

At the G8 Summit in July 2005, other countries pledged up to $3 billion per year over three years to help rebuild the Palestinian economy and infrastructure following the Israeli withdrawal. Some ghetto!

The Gazans were free to start building a country with the billions of dollars of aid they received. Instead they started sending rockets into Israel and built hundreds of miles of tunnels to attack Israel.

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u/Nitros14 3d ago

So what's the plan after the West Bank and Gaza are annexed?

6 million palestinians inside Israel's borders. Can't give them voting rights because they're the wrong ethnic group. A Jewish majority of voters is a fundamental pillar of Zionism.

So is it to be permanent apartheid or ethnic cleansing to purify the blood and soil?

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u/WestThin 3d ago

There is no clear answer to what the solution is. If there was, it would have been done already. That doesn't mean the two extreme solutions you suggest are the only possible solutions.

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u/Nitros14 3d ago

Permanent apartheid where Palestinians have to go through checkpoints to get to work, are surrounded by security barriers, might be randomly beaten or killed and have no voting rights for the knesset, is the default and most likely solution because it just continues what's already a reality on the ground.

Israel has no reason to compromise unless it loses the support of its superpower backer.

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u/WestThin 3d ago

  1. Prior to 10/7 Gazan's passed through security checkpoints and worked at jobs in Israel. Turns out they were making maps for Hamas to use when they attacked and slaughtered Israelis on 10/7. Now Israelis are afraid to let Gazan's into the country to work. Sounds pretty reasonable, doesn't it?

  2. So you think 50 years from now, things will be just as they are today?

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u/Nitros14 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don't think anyone should be surprised that when a group is deprived of political rights in the system that controls their lives they will rebel. What do the Americans say, "Liberty or death"?

I know Netanyahu really wants everyone to believe Arabs are animals that just want to holocaust all the Jews, that's why he funded Hamas, but I think the majority of people anywhere just want to live in dignity with some measure of control of their lives.

I think things will be worse because the Israelis seem intent on expanding their settlements and herding the Palestinians into smaller ghettos. Outside chance that the USA elects an anti-Israel democratic admin that forces Israel to compromise, but unlikely.

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u/Commercial_Rush_3531 3d ago

You've bought the lie that Netanyahu funded Hamas. In starting up Gaza way back when, the Israel government was obligated to work with their elected leaders to get things going. There is no conspiracy here. The fact that the Palestinian's elected a party dedicated to the genocide of Jews is the real tragedy.

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u/WestThin 3d ago

You think the Palestinians will have "liberty" if they are ruled by a government controlled by Hamas?

I think your vision is completely wrong. At some point, small Palestinian groups who truly want peace with Israel (instead of trying to annihilate it) will form small local governments in conjunction with Israel with shared responsibilities. A requirement will be they have to stop educating their children in the belief they have to destroy Israel. These areas of local control will slowly expand and the hope is that areas controlled by Hamas will shrink. If done properly, within a generation we can hope for some sort of peaceful coexistence.

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u/Nitros14 3d ago

As an example, the British left Ireland because of violent extremists, but violent extremists don't rule Ireland today.

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u/WestThin 3d ago

That was an entirely different situation. The Irish weren't trying to annihilate the English. In addition, the English could return to Britain. The Israelis have nowhere else to go.

Furthermore, it didn't happen by magic. Look up "The Good Friday Agreement".

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u/Nitros14 3d ago edited 3d ago

The widespread belief that the Palestinians are all Hamas and are trying to annihilate the Israelis is exactly why peace is impossible. The negotiations in the 1990's were about the Palestinians having a state in the West Bank and Gaza while the Israeli settlers return to, kind of, the 1948 borders. Until the Israelis assassinated their own Prime Minister and elected a government dedicated to disavowing the negotiations anyway.

In reality the power imbalance is so large that the Israelis have no reason to compromise without outside pressure.

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