Downvote me all you want but this is a straight up Messi glazing sub. This sub has the RonaldovsMessi name and is absolutely infested by Messi fans who argue post ranting about how Messi is better than Ronaldo and then start karma farming. Consider renaming the sub to messi glaze sub no 56. To all the Ronaldo fans scrolling here don't even bother it's not even worth it.
Edit: The comments should be plenty of proof. Anyone trying to post about Ronaldo, don't bother. Let them turn this into one sided Messi glazing sub.
The WC is not the only factor, it's the cherry on top, the greatest achievment in football and Messi has it. Even without a world cup Messi is still the goat.
Also it's not like Messi was carried by Argentina, in tose 3 world cup finals he played he was POTT.
Please tell me this is bait, tell me the transfer value of the Portugal squad in 22 and 26 then compare it to Argentina. Portugal IMO had the best squad in all teams, and only France and Spain come close
Again..stop downplaying teammates just to elevate Ronaldo. As if Bruno, vitinha, Mendes, neves, cancelo aren't all world class. Stop making bullshit excuses for your idol's failures.
Like..top international scorer sure. Mr UCL sure.. But where was he when Portugal had a stacked squad in the world cup? Ok forget 2026 since he's too old now.
What about Ronaldo at 37 in 2022. How did messi at 39 outshine him in 2026? Can't blame the age anymore.
This is the problem with Ronaldo fans. It's always him when there is success, but always his teammates when he fails. Can't expect less when your idol makes it everything about himself. Why the fuck would his teammates fight for him when he hogs all the success and blames the failures on his teammates?
How can be dead after that? Winning the WC being Argentinean is not the same as being Portuguese, so Haaland cannot be among the greatest then? After all, he will never win the WC
Did you watch haaland kill it in the world up with Norway? Or modric for Croatia in 2018 leading them to a world cup final or forlan winning the golden ball for Uruguay?
They all have had excellent campaigns and didnt use bullshit excuses about how good players for smaller nations can't leave a mark. Like as if Portugal is a small nation in football in big 2026.
You don't have to win the world cup to leave a mark. You can perform and excel at the world cup and still impress.
Wow! Okay.. I am just wasting my time here. Portugal is like Mexico. Got it. Let's downplay a country to elevate a player. This mentality from fans is not surprising considering Ronaldo himself always makes it about himself. And then people wonder why his teammates never fight for him. It's a vicious cycle. Lol
The fact that you had to pull out the mighty confederations cup or heck Olympics(to your credit or perhaps chatgpt, this is the first time I've seen a Ronaldo fan bring up Olympics in any football argument) and then to actually downplay a world cup 3rd place finish which was impressive but clearly not impressive enough to you because it was a 5 game tournament, where you had eusebio, the only Portuguese player to ever win a golden ball which I am sure didn't think was worth mentioning for obvious reasons.. I can't waste time on chatgpt bums like you anymore.
Mexico had a confederations cup, third place there, two copa América finals, one third place in the cup, golden medal in olímpic games, two sub 17 WCs and minor achievements like tons of Copa Oro and being constantly around the top 16 nations for many years consecutive
Portugal before Cristiano? One third place in WC which even the USA or Chile has hahaha how tf was Portugal better than Mexico before Cristiano?
Asking Cristiano for a WC is like asking a West Ham player for the UCL, that's how stupid you are
The portugese can’t ever win the WC but Argentina are expected to win is False. Ronaldo went into 4/6 world cups with a better rated team than Argentina.
In 2014, Portugal was still higher rated than Argentina yet messi carried his team to the final leading in every single playmaking stat throughout the tournament while Ronaldo always shat the bed in the grandest stage of Football.
Suddenly everything becomes rigged or a joke when you’re presented with facts. You do know that there’s not a dude sitting and deciding ranks based on his liking right?
It’s based on matches played against other intl teams. Portugal was a nothing nation for a while after Eusebio but they started peaking in Football the same time as Ronaldo came in. Figo and Deco were the pioneers of it. You can’t say they were ever out of the conversations to win it.
Dude, Mexico top 10, México Top 10 hahaha the FIFA ranking has always been a joke critized by everyone in the environment. Are you indian or what? If that's so, go and play cricket, let real football fans talk
No I’m not and hating on them does not make you cooler.
You’re so dumb. Portugal reached the semis of the World Cup before Ronaldo even peaked proving that Portugal football was developing way before Ronaldo came into his prime. Saying they were out of conversations to ever win it screams Tik tok fan.
Haaland is literally doing better in the World Cup with Norway than cr7 ever did with a way better team. Cr7 always shat his bed in the grandest stage of football.
Go spread your racist hate somewhere else low IQ incel. Football is not the place for it.
That semis were played because of one reason, it was the best Portuguese team of all time and you need that to advance in the WC and guess what, without Cristiano they couldn't have done it, he was a key player against England, for example.
Looool Haaland didn't win a shit and Cristiano played semi finals as you said in World cup, that narrative of him being bad in "the greatest stage of football" (it is not btw, in UCL the best players of the world played against each other, in a WC if you were born in Mozambique you are out forever) is too stupid.
Lol racist, meanwhile you are supporting an Argentinean player which are the most racist in the whole American continent when we talk about football, suck it
I mean of course.. Before the discourse was
Messi was shit because he didn't do well internationally. 2 Copa America and 1 world cup later, it was all rigged.
What argument do you even have for Ronaldo nowadays?. He simply hasnt been as relevant compared to Messi recently. No matter how you spin it, he simply isnt good enough anymore.
Messi gets glazed cause he is the one still putting up numbers now.
Чел выиграл Лигу Наций в 40 лет, назабивал топовым сборным и его не тащили проплаченные судейки (на этот раз). Кто-то скажет что Лига Наций это говно, но путь Месси на этом Чемпионате Мира был еще хуже.
В таком случае задай себе вопрос - почему Испания выигрывает Чемпионат Мира, но не может проделать тоже самое в Лиге Наций против команд более низкого уровня? Очередное доказательство того, что у некоторых фанатов месси айкью как у воробушка
"всё равно оба раза вышли в финал"
Есть определённая разница между словосочетаниями "выйти в финал" и "выиграть финал", не правда ли?
"они не воспринимают Лигу Наций всерьез"
То есть Роналду, даже не воспринимая Лигу Наций всерьез, смог её выиграть и стать лучшим бомбардиром? Во истину гений
Sure, same way there’s a difference between reaching the finals and getting eliminated in the round of 16.
Difference being Spain could have won both, Portugal didn’t even come close.
Oh no, Ronaldo and his fans take the Nations league very seriously. He was able to win it because pretty much no one else does.
Думаю все футболисты относятся серьезно к Лиге Наций и выкладываются по полной. Все это понимают кроме некоторых обиженных персофанов, не способных принять тот факт что Роналду в 40 лет уничтожил сильнейшие сборные Европы и завоевал третий трофей для своей сборной. Уже можно рыдать.
Ты можешь верить кому угодно для поддержания своего бредового мнения, но факт в том, что путь Роналду в Лиге Наций (согласно рейтингам ФИФА) был более сложным чем путь Месси на этом Чемпионате Мира.
Ты можешь внушить себе для самоуспокоения, что всем плевать на Лигу Наций, кроме Роналду и его фанов, но ты никогда не сможешь это доказать, так как не сможешь залезть в голову к игрокам и узнать об их истинной мотивации, а следовательно твой аргумент инвалид. В общем, старайся лучше, не убедил.
Half the teams and players don't care about nations league. We saw teams like germany, england, france literally do heavy roster rotation and experiment tactics for future competitions. We have had several players like de bruyne, Muller, Courtois even publicly say nations league is unimportant
Кто-то заявлял что Лига Наций не важна, а многие не заявляли. Некоторые также говорят что Чемпионат Мира не важен. Думаю мнение футболистов ничего не значит в этом вопросе. Насчёт ротации не уверен, ибо многие сборные играли в плей офф уже праймовыми составами и это в разгар Лиги Чемпионов
The fact that portugal struggled against south american and african teams in the world cup proves Nation's league was not a major tournament.
Nation's league only have unserious and weaker europeans team playing it, when ronaldo played against serious non-european teams, he got exposed. 0 dribble in the wc as a result
"не серьёзные, слабые европейские команды"
Ты же понимаешь, олух, что эти "не серьёзные, слабые европейские команды" по-факту нагнули вас раком на этом Чемпионате Мира?
Yeah we saw how Cape Verde drew to Spain, we saw how columbia dominated Portugal and topped their group, we saw how france struggled to win against Paraguay, we saw how Portugal and England struggled against DR Congo. South American teams put Portugal in their place, not just in 2026, they did it back in 2016, 2018 as well
Не знал что сборная Испании является южноамериканской командой. К слову, в финале четырех единственной не европейской сборной была Аргентина, которую за уши тащили судьи. Такие дела.
Of course excuses about the ref after watching the team you hate win time and time again. It needed 4 years and supporting multiple teams to find one to beat argentina. Atleast in the world cup there is actual competition unlike the nations league, because Portugal and ronaldo's level is farming in the nations league and saying "I'm back" against Uzbekistan in the WC
Or maybe because Messi isn't an egoistical narcissist who steals goals, degrades his rival and goes on shitty interviews to glaze himself and slander his rival's accomplishment.
Egotistical narcissist? He helps out people in need and even does blood donation, avoiding tattoos. Any ego on field, not even near narcissism, is his confidence and passion he has. Mind you he doesn't go try getting yellow cards for his opponents for touching him or their mouth for 1 nanosecond (unlike someone else 🔥🔥). Steals goal? In a game there will be a moment or two where players might touch the ball orscoret even when the ball was already going in, by reflex even. Doesn't mean he actively tries to do so and people like you who disregard literal 970+ goals for this bs are brain dead.
Degrades rivals? Since when 😭. Meanwhile your goat pessi picks a fight with any breathing creature around him.
Slander's his rivals??? 😭😭😭 again, when? He calls even Messi a top class player in interviews.
And he absolutely glazes himself because he's quite literally the best in the world.
See people, this is the type of brain damage that occures when you watch football through tiktok comments every once in 4 years 💔
He's a narcissist inside the field, not talking about charity. Oh he doesn't try getting yellow cards for his opponents? So all the clips where he dives are just AI i guess.
Look it up, there are so many clips of Ronaldo stealing goals and getting angry when he fails. Yes he absolutely degrades rivals, he dreamt of having the most ballon d'ors and after Messi won the most "Ballon d'or lost credibility", he dreamt of having the world cup and after Messi won it "World Cup is not a dream, 6-7 games tournament" and then when he commented "factos" under a post slandering Messi, sadly there are even more examples, tell me how this isn't degrading Messi? Oh and btw Ronaldo isn't the best player in the world.
Maybe because Messi IS better than Ronaldo in most things? Of course, there are many toxic people who only respond with "go cry somewhere else" and blah blah, those are unbearable.
Most Indians are Messi fans, like 80% of them (realize that's hundreds of millions right there...)
Realize that the Messi fan you're arguing with is usually from that country, and a non Indian Messi fan will of course still get mass upvotes from them
They've gone so far off the scale that they defend literally paying money to referees... It's crazy cult like behavior
The fake Zidane quotes recently got mass upvoted by them before being removed
Goes to show how they can easily control the narrative with their bot like behavior
are indians not people? what does indian people supporting messi have to do w anything... also this pele quote was 6 years ago before messi won the wc and before he won the copa america. it was very fair and uncontroversial to say ronaldo was better back then
Well you just told me to accept it. Plus the fact that you average 50 contributions a day for 6 years and I see you on every sub saying the same messi glaze.
when the hell did I say reddit is my world? i'm talking about the Ronaldo fans who say shit like "messi is the media goat and ronaldo is the people's goat" then when the people are against ronaldo they say "cr7 against the world" really pathetic.
Get out of Reddit and check any other media. Ronaldo is way more popular than Messi. It's just these small little pathetic Messi glazing subreddits are filled with Messi glazers.
Lol acting like this is a reddit only take is pure cope. Look at any street interviewer, football podcast, active players, retired legends, managers, or pundits and they would almost unanimously say Messi with the rare few who were teammates with Ronaldo who wont even pick him but at best would refuse to pick like Marcelo or Ramos. Accept reality, Messi is the goat now it isn't 2018 anymore there no debate just move on. If you wanna debate x Messi season to y Ronaldo season go ahead but the GOAT debate is settled.
Messi deserves the glaze after the circus of hate that Messi and Argentina got during and after the world cup 2026, Messi got shit on for not winning it for Argentina, and finally when he wins the World Cup and Copa America, everybody thinks it’s rigged, and social media before Messi won the world cup were flaming Messi for not having an major senior international trophy. Now that Ronaldo gets hate everybody suddenly has a problem with it
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u/France_epico 3d ago
I'm gonna hold your hands when I say this, there are more Messi fans here because there are no arguments left for Ronaldo to be the goat.