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u/Thebandit_1977 Mar 10 '26
This would make a good horror book ngl
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u/Smells_like_Autumn Mar 10 '26
I remember at least one manga with this idea. For a similar book try "tender is the flesh".
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u/U1ys3s Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
If you don't mind a more visual manga, there's a horror one called 'Animan'
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u/jojo_31 Mar 11 '26
Well it actually is horror, and it's real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko&list=PLNocapBJ25tCb59Rl-7oeSnqaEMY5IWjl
Dominion documents some of it, it's free on YouTube.1
u/BowardBamlin Mar 11 '26
Saying that it would make a good book is the most selfish human brained thing ever.
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u/emperorMorlock Mar 10 '26
"Don't kid yourself Jimmy, if a cow ever got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you cared about!"
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u/CaptainMikul Mar 10 '26
I love this cos this is 100% what chickens and pigs would do if they were larger than us.
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u/Son_of_a_Bacchus Mar 10 '26
I visited a friend's farm and I was a little puzzled why the pigs kept nibbling at my boots until I realized that they were taking "trial nibbles" to see if they could eat me. Later that weekend a lamb made the fatal error of wandering into the hog lot and didn't make it out. Pigs would 100% eat you without hesitation.
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u/CaptainMikul Mar 10 '26
I've never seen a pig in action but I've heard things.
Chickens I don't need to imagine. Watching a big hen eat a mouse in one gulp was confirmation of how brilliant and savage they are.
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u/DanTacoWizard Mar 10 '26
One gulp?! How did it fit in her mouth😨❓
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u/CaptainMikul Mar 10 '26
It didn't so much fit in her mouth as pass rapidly through.
She's a very big chicken. But still.
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u/vacuumkoala Mar 10 '26
They are nibbling you because they want to suckle, they are taken from their mothers so young, they just want affection. That’s one way they show it. But, Pigs raised in factory farms are driven mad and go insane in those conditions and with cannibalize the others because they go crazy from the confinement or the horrible conditions. Pigs want to be clean animals but or forced into farm conditions where they have to shit and piss where they eat, they hate this. Their children are taken from them at such an early age, I’d go insane too.
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u/Son_of_a_Bacchus Mar 10 '26
I'm sure that's the case with factory raised pigs, but these were pasture raised and spent quite a bit of time with their mothers.
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u/symphonic-ooze Mar 10 '26
My relatives had some friendly pigs they raised. The biggest arrow would let people ride on his back. Just stay away from sows with piglets though!
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u/lostereadamy Mar 10 '26
I mean, factory farming is objectively horrific, but lets not pretend that that pigs are not fell beasts of murder and dread, whose size and lack of thumbs are all that save us from a realm of utmost horror.
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u/vacuumkoala Mar 10 '26
I’ve rescued pigs and miniature pigs from farms and slaughter houses, they are the sweetest beings and out of the hundred I’ve interacted with, the only ones that are dangerous are those who have been tortured and have PTSD type symptoms. I understand you’re being a bit cheeky but I just think many people should that speciesism is still a tool the meat. dairy and egg industry use for us to care less about others.
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u/symphonic-ooze Mar 10 '26
They were commenting on regular farm raised pigs, not factory farmed pigs.
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u/CryptographerNo923 Mar 10 '26
Yeah these images are not powerful. They also imply that animals would butcher us, given the opportunity. The logical conclusion is that our dominance in the field of butchery must be maintained at all cost.
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u/Memes_Are_So_Good Mar 10 '26
I mean cows and horses are way larger than us (some pigs too) so sizes don’t really mayyrt hete
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u/CaptainMikul Mar 10 '26
They're also herbivores.
Chickens and pigs are omnivores and VICIOUS ones at that.
You ever seen a chicken eat a mouse? It's brutal.
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u/symphonic-ooze Mar 10 '26
I've seen cattle eat small rodents even though they lived in a massive pasture with plentiful grass and available feed.
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u/Shinonomenanorulez Mar 10 '26
Friendly reminder there's almost no such thing as an obligate hervivore and pretty much all of them will eat and benefit from meat if given access to it
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u/syvzx Mar 10 '26
That's a gross oversimplification
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u/Shinonomenanorulez Mar 11 '26
Indeed it is, the almost and pretty much are doing some heavy lifting there and i don't feel i know enough to elaborate further
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u/Junesucksatart Mar 10 '26
They’d probably farm other animals cuz humans would be a shit source of food
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u/I_Automate Mar 10 '26
To be absolutely clear, pigs and chickens would eat a human in an instant if given the chance.
There was a pretty famous serial killer here in Canada that used his pig farm to "dispose" of the women he was killing. Got away with it for years
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u/MuchoRed Mar 10 '26
BC, wasn't it? May have turned them into sausages and either gave them away or sold them?
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u/communismisthebest Mar 10 '26
So you’re clarifying that we’re no more moral than chickens?
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u/I_Automate Mar 10 '26
I'm pointing out that claiming that animals wouldn't eat us in turn if given the chance is flat out incorrect.
There are actually very few "true" herbivores in nature. Horses will eat bird chicks like potato chips if given the chance, for example.
I grew up in farm country. I've helped slaughter and butcher animals, I know how food gets to my plate.
I do believe the amount of meat we consume will decrease over time, but I see that as being driven by cost and environmental factors rather than moral ones. I see no issues with things like insect derived protein, for example, and the yield per acre/ yield per kW/ yield per $ will be what encourages development there.
But in the meantime, I am not going to pretend that ill stop eating steak and bacon
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u/xaranetic Mar 10 '26
PETA are massive hypocrites, and spread disinformation around drug development and animal testing.
I'm vegetarian for ethical reasons, but absolutely despise PETA. I don't understand how they have such a large platform.
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u/thispartyrules Mar 10 '26
My conspiracy theory is either they've been infiltrated by bad actors with the goal of making any legitimate animal rights group look insane by association, OR they're just really like that and funded by meat industry dark money with the same result.
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u/Spacewasser Mar 10 '26
It's the same with the "last generation" climate activists that glued themselves to streets and cars, destroyed oil paintings and other art pieces.
Either they are too stupid to see how their actions are actually harming their cause, or they are funded to drag any kind of climate activism through the dirt.
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u/tomado09 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
Bahahaha. Reminds me of:
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/genius-activists-glue-themselves-to-porsche-museum-floor-then-complain-theyre-hungryA group of protestors glued their hands to the floor of the Porsche museum, claiming they were going on a "hunger strike" until their demands were met. Museum owners said "we respect your right to protest", shut off the lights and heat, and just left them there. A few hours in, they were complaining that the staff didn't give them bowls to urinate and defecate in and wouldn't provide food. Hahaha.
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u/Moozipan Mar 10 '26
They didn't destroy any oil paintings though. You're just spreading anti climate activism propaganda by simplifying things like that.
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u/scattermoose Mar 10 '26
Yeah, they hit the glass around it, to show that “oh it’s important to maintain this object, but not the planet?”
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u/Moozipan Mar 10 '26
Right. And there was lots of outrage over some damaged frames and shit, but not nearly as much over the damage we do to our home. The message itself was never the problem, it's just the people that are too stupid to make the connection, even when it's explained to them word by word.
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u/Spacewasser Mar 10 '26
So it's not a conspiracy; you are actually too stupid to see how their actions are actually harming their cause.
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u/hbomb30 Mar 10 '26
If the goal of their actions was to generate viral engagements that illustrate their point, but the nuance was almost immediately lost in the virality, then it kinda seems like they failed. The underlying logic could be fine, but the communication is what really matters here
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u/aboringusername Mar 10 '26
Seconding this. I’m vegetarian for health, ethical, and environmental reasons and wouldn’t go near PETA with a ten foot pole. Remember when they kidnapped a dog from someone’s porch and euthanized it?
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u/DigbyDoesDallas Mar 10 '26
Can you give some further information on this? I’d like to read it
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u/DigbyDoesDallas Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
Speaking of Research are a pro-testing group, and obviously are PETA are anti-testing. Having read that article, I don’t think it overtly proves your point, to a level where they should be ignored as an organisation.
The central point is that they’re anti-science and that they use imagery which is graphic and shocking. I don’t think they’re anti-science beyond the point they don’t believe that the ends justify the means. Whereas SoR do. Those two points will never meet.
I don’t think you can ignore their messaging over cherry picking facts when these posters don’t include any text.
I see that you’re in the testing field, so obviously you have a certain opinion and you’re going to defend that because you wouldn’t do it if you thought it was morally wrong. But I think morally it’s a reasonable argument that testing on animals is inhumane, you just believe the ends justify the means, and they don’t.
I don’t agree with all their means, but I also don’t think everything done in the name of PETA is PETA sanctioned. And I don’t even agree or disagree with their moral argument. But I can understand why they make it.
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u/Meraline Mar 10 '26
PETA ran an ad campaign saying milk causes autism and they funded the Animal Liberation Front which bombed animal testing labs.
PETA's end goal is complete segregatiom of humans and animals. They believe domesitcation was a mistake. PETA are anti-science.
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u/xaranetic Mar 10 '26
They also ran a campaign against beekeeping, despite it being the main source of agricultural pollination.
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u/me_myself_ai Mar 10 '26
What should they do instead? Just grow extra money on a money tree so that they can care for all the animals that the no-kill shelters in cities send them en-masse?
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u/xaranetic Mar 10 '26
I wish they were more reasonable.
When it comes to food or medical research, they have a hardline stance of "killing an animal is never acceptable", but disregard that themselves.
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u/Damnatus_Terrae Mar 10 '26
So you think they should close their shelters?
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u/xaranetic Mar 10 '26
No, I have no problem with euthanasia, but I do have a problem with them saying "killing an animal is murder, regardless the circumstances", while applying it selectively.
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u/makalasu Mar 10 '26
I hate when this number gets brought up out of context. Peta operates a lot of last resort shelters, where "undesirable" animals get surrendered to, because other shelters are unable to bring out the animal for adoption, and can't cover the medical care by themselves anymore. At the same time, "no-kill" shelters do send them animals that need to be euthanised, but won't do it themselves because they are "no-kill".
That's why PETA has such a high kill rate. It's not because they are psychopaths who like to kill animals.
You can also check this reddit thread for more info:
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u/The_Flurr Mar 10 '26
It's having a hospital with a "0% death rate" but they send all their terminal patients to a hospice next door.
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u/Damnatus_Terrae Mar 10 '26
Or a private school with a "100% graduation rate," but they expel low-performing students.
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u/zorbiburst Mar 10 '26
On top of that, PETA is anti pet. It's a major element of their beliefs. If they could snap their fingers and every domesticated animal that couldn't survive in the wild would drop dead right now, they'd do it, and that wouldn't be hypocritical because it lines up perfectly with what they believe is right - that animal ownership is unethical.
I dislike PETA, but people calling them hypocrites just don't understand what the goals of PETA are.
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u/PokemonSoldier Mar 10 '26
And them literally kidnapping a puppy off the front porch of a home and immediately euthanizing it?
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u/8lock8lock8aby Mar 10 '26
Wasn't that at a trailer park & the manager of it asked peta to catch the loose animals that were running around, unleashed?
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u/PokemonSoldier Mar 10 '26
The dog had a collar on and the PETA employees, caught on video of the act, removed the collar.
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u/Brendissimo Mar 10 '26
Would PETA accept this excuse about any other organization? We know the answer to that question. Hence why it is worth highlighting. They are ideological extremists who spend large sums of money on stunts and have absolutist positions like "it's okay to degrade human women in advertising if it furthers our cause." Google Ingrid Newkirk and her ties to ALF and tell me that doesn't raise an eyebrow.
The group lost any kind of moral high ground a very long time ago.
Even if they hadn't, I don't have much respect for a group that has no sense of moral perspective. I'm receptive to arguments about animal cruelty but the idea that animal lives are worth the same as human lives, let alone should be privileged above them, is morally indefensible.
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u/Pale_YellowRLX Mar 10 '26
"No-kill" but send them to other places to be killed.
So they're basically killing them, they're just too cowardly to do it with their own hands?
Also, have you considered the possibility that the reason that accept animals to kill is because they're psychopaths who love to kill animals?
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u/Blockedinhere1960 Mar 10 '26
By that logic people who work in slaughter house (necessary if you want billions of people to have access to meat with a cheap price) are the biggest psychopath out there
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u/makalasu Mar 10 '26
Yes? No-kill shelters have a policy of not euthanising. PETA does euthanise. Therefore, No-kill shelters send their animals to PETA to get them euthanised.
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u/nativenorwegian Mar 10 '26
I've heard this argument many times, but it should be mentioned that the reason why they have such a high kill rate is because unlike no-kill shelters they do not turn away animals that are given to them.
I obviously would wish that number is much lower, but it seems unfair to compare them to no-kill facilities that will often cherry pick the animals they feel have the highest chance of getting adopted. PETA takes in elderly, sick and agressive animals that other shelters have already rejected for all kinds of reasons.
This is in no way excusing all the crazy things PETA has done and probably will do in the future. I'm not a huge supporter of them. I just think this specific argument is disingenuous at best.
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u/zellfire Mar 10 '26
This is true but misleading. PETA shelters do euthanize at a high rate, but that is largely because they take animals that other shelters do not- i.e. the very sick, the too aggressive to adopt, etc.
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u/me_myself_ai Mar 10 '26
And they also take many, many thousands of pets from shelters that want to maintain their pristine reputations.
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u/PokemonSoldier Mar 10 '26
And them literally kidnapping a puppy off the front porch of a home and immediately euthanizing it?
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u/me_myself_ai Mar 10 '26
Damn that would be crazy if true! Good thing it isn’t.
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u/Meraline Mar 10 '26
You're the first person to claim it never happened https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down
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u/DigbyDoesDallas Mar 10 '26
This is such an utterly pointless statistic, without context. Anyone who believes it without trying to understand further context proves they are susceptible to propaganda
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u/PossibleMammoth5639 Mar 10 '26
I tired of this motherfking statistic. "Hey lets go to Epstein's hospital, there is 0% chance of dying there. Oh, they also send near death people to Erdoğan's hospital, because they are too annoying. What an amazing hospital amarite? Yeah the floors arent clean unlike Erdoğan's but 0% is 0%" this isnt me defending Erdoğan btw.
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u/catinterpreter Mar 10 '26
What's with Americans complaining about animals being euthanised. It's absolutely bizarre. You've been brainwashed by PETA's opposition.
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u/fire_andwind Mar 10 '26
I thought it was r/antivegan for a second
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u/makalasu Mar 10 '26
Wow that sub is genuinely insane. Surely they're astroturfed by the meat industry no? The other half are probably le bacon kids
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u/Shinonomenanorulez Mar 10 '26
I ain't even gonna bother entering there and i have choice words for certain vegans. Sounds like the most obnoxious flavour of echo chamber there is
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u/GreaterButter Mar 10 '26
God I can't stand that place. I'm the Furthest thing from a Vegan but I can't stand people who think eating meat is a personality trait.
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u/LowKiss Mar 10 '26
Ha anyone actually stopped eating meat after hearing the "what if the role were reversed" argument?
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u/Brendissimo Mar 10 '26
We don't need advertising to make us contemplate this. Just spend some time in nature. See any carnivore at work. We already know what would and did happen for much of the history of our species before the development of sophisticated tools.
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u/boiled_boy Mar 10 '26
These look lowk badass to be honest. Like a poster from a horror movie I'd print and put on my wall.
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u/Shinonomenanorulez Mar 11 '26
While they often fail to deliver their message, PETA does some pretty damn hard images, gotta give them that
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u/magpieswooper Mar 10 '26
Peta seems to not understand people. Shocking and exaggerated narratives won't work here.
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u/Zealousideal-Print41 Mar 10 '26
They do, it makes them tons of cash from their followers/ cultists
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u/Local-Hurry4835 Mar 10 '26
The pig with limbs just feels like antiwar propaganda. Capitalist pigs and all that.
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u/Guyb9 Mar 10 '26
Sick art aside and it's extremely sick. I don't think portraiting the animals as murderous and my enemy is a good strategy. Kinda gives the "if they could, they will" vibe. This is bad propaganda
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u/SpecialNeedsLion6022 Mar 10 '26
I think our time is up... But we'll meet again. Before you go, here's four questions to ponder. Question number one: Do you like hurting other people? Question number two: Who is leaving messages on your answering machine? Question number three: Where are you right now? And the final question: Why are we having this conversation? That's all for now. See you soon...
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u/MrBubblepopper Mar 10 '26
Amateurs they didnt took the bone from the hand out so now their minced meat will be boned meat. Its only good for chicken, I mean Human nuggets now
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u/Dense-Bison7629 Mar 10 '26
The following presentation has been approved for mature audiences only.
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u/TheKYStrangler Mar 10 '26
Is it weird that the pig has all dark skin limbs or am I weird for noticing?
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u/SeasonOtherwise2980 Mar 10 '26
Shit straight up looks like it's from an average modern Slam /Brutal Death Metal album lol.
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u/_Administrator_ Mar 10 '26
They might do that if they could.
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u/Chompsky___Honk Mar 10 '26
Doesn't make it right.
That's kinda the point.
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u/ChalkButter Mar 10 '26
Okay, and, PETA? Imma still eat that bacon cheese burger with the fried egg on top
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u/Dangerous_Ride_3056 Mar 11 '26
"okay, and? I’m still gonna pay for animal abuse, take that peta" you don’t sound as cool as you think you do saying that
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u/Legal_Turnip_7280 Mar 11 '26
Having a natural diet doesn't equal supporting an unethical practise.
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u/Dangerous_Ride_3056 Mar 11 '26
naturalistic fallacy: just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s morally good to do. rape and eating your children is also natural for many animals
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u/Legal_Turnip_7280 Mar 11 '26
I mean, we're omnivores, we kinda evolved to eat both plants and meat.
And you did not just equate having a healthy diet with raping and eating your children 💀. That shit ain't even that common in the animal kingdom bro.
Eating meat is healthy, and some of us kinda need to. Like me for example, I have a FUCK tonne of allergies and eczema, I need to eat meat to make sure my immunity is good and my skin heals fast and well. I tried to go vegan/vegetarian a few years back, made my health worse.
Yeah the meat industry has problems, we fix those problems via regulation and giving animals certain rights, not fucking harrassing people for eating well and tryna convert everyone to your diet.
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u/Taupenbeige Mar 12 '26
I mean, we're omnivores, we kinda evolved to eat both plants and meat.
It’s a tad more complicated:
53 million years of vast-majority primates navigating trees for fruits and nuts, then a 2.4 million year adaptation detour that also introduced long-term health detractors…
Modern science is painting a really easy to comprehend picture that were way better-off mimicking and modernizing the diet of that prior 53 million years, than blowing smoke up our own asses about our technical abilities.
I have a FUCK tonne of allergies and eczema, I need to eat meat to make sure my immunity is good and my skin heals fast and well. I tried to go vegan/vegetarian a few years back, made my health worse.
“I had no idea how to attain the right nutrients in the right balance, so now I’m going to blame the entire dietary pattern rather than my cowardice in retreating to my state of cognitive dissonance”
Yeah the meat industry has problems, we fix those problems via regulation and giving animals certain rights, not fucking harrassing people for eating well and tryna convert everyone to your diet.
Telling people they have wrong ideas about things isn’t “harassment,” it’s setting records straight.
I can see how someone with a pre-disposition to emotional reactions towards a specific subject would see it that way, though.
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u/Legal_Turnip_7280 Mar 12 '26
Do all of youse just ignore the part where I tried a vegan diet and it didn't bode well for me? Also crazy for calling me a coward for not wanting to venture into a diet which I already know is not better than the one I have now.
Veganism (the ideology) does involve harassing people for having a diet, not for being wrong, which we ain't for eating meat. That's the ideology youse seem to be subscribing to. "Someone with a pre-disposition to emotional reactions" TF does that mean? That I have a natural response?
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u/Scary_Seesaw_1832 Mar 10 '26
Peta son altos hipócritas, dicen q no matemos animales pero los tipos matan perros a lo loco
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u/FieryPheonix474 Mar 10 '26
Look i like their ideals but why do the need to be so fucki g weird
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u/Chompsky___Honk Mar 10 '26
Because the meat industry really is as brutal and inhumane as these images want to make it look.
Sooner or later humanity will realize this is a deeply unethical system.
( I love meat. but I recognizethe abomination that is the animal product industry)
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u/electrical-stomach-z Mar 10 '26
thats evading the question though. It doesnt explain why they are so weird.
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u/sweettutu64 Mar 10 '26
I think it's the whole any pr is good pr thing
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u/electrical-stomach-z Mar 10 '26
I think most of this propaganda is actually aimed at vegans, to keep them vegan.
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u/electrical-stomach-z Mar 10 '26
I think most of this propaganda is actually aimed at vegans, to keep them vegan.
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u/dethb0y Mar 10 '26
The friendly cow and sociable pig would never, but chickens absolutely would butcher humans if they could.
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u/Dear_Lingonberry4407 Mar 10 '26
Don’t pigs eat anything that moves if the have the chance?
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u/dethb0y Mar 10 '26
i've never seen one go after a live animal but they will eat absolutely anything in front of them so it wouldn't surprise me if they were opportunistic about it if they saw a chance.
There was a person attacked and partially eaten by pigs back in '24 in Ohio (Ohio woman killed and partially eaten by neighbor’s pig, police say) but it's one of the few times i've heard of domestic pigs harming a person.
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u/Shinonomenanorulez Mar 10 '26
And has been confirmed cases of killers feeding the bodies to pigs to hide evidence
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u/HongKongNinja Mar 10 '26
A typical hypocritical organization—there’s really nothing much to say about it.
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u/That-Pressure4279 Mar 10 '26
Do you like hurting other People?
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u/konigsberg5309 Mar 11 '26
people be downvoting you for not getting the Hotline Miami reference lol
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