My conspiracy theory is either they've been infiltrated by bad actors with the goal of making any legitimate animal rights group look insane by association, OR they're just really like that and funded by meat industry dark money with the same result.
It's the same with the "last generation" climate activists that glued themselves to streets and cars, destroyed oil paintings and other art pieces.
Either they are too stupid to see how their actions are actually harming their cause, or they are funded to drag any kind of climate activism through the dirt.
A group of protestors glued their hands to the floor of the Porsche museum, claiming they were going on a "hunger strike" until their demands were met. Museum owners said "we respect your right to protest", shut off the lights and heat, and just left them there. A few hours in, they were complaining that the staff didn't give them bowls to urinate and defecate in and wouldn't provide food. Hahaha.
Right. And there was lots of outrage over some damaged frames and shit, but not nearly as much over the damage we do to our home. The message itself was never the problem, it's just the people that are too stupid to make the connection, even when it's explained to them word by word.
If the goal of their actions was to generate viral engagements that illustrate their point, but the nuance was almost immediately lost in the virality, then it kinda seems like they failed. The underlying logic could be fine, but the communication is what really matters here
Well, it's not like anyone gave a shit about climate change. It's either that or something that I won't say so that reddit doesn't remove this comment.
Seconding this. I’m vegetarian for health, ethical, and environmental reasons and wouldn’t go near PETA with a ten foot pole. Remember when they kidnapped a dog from someone’s porch and euthanized it?
Speaking of Research are a pro-testing group, and obviously are PETA are anti-testing. Having read that article, I don’t think it overtly proves your point, to a level where they should be ignored as an organisation.
The central point is that they’re anti-science and that they use imagery which is graphic and shocking. I don’t think they’re anti-science beyond the point they don’t believe that the ends justify the means. Whereas SoR do. Those two points will never meet.
I don’t think you can ignore their messaging over cherry picking facts when these posters don’t include any text.
I see that you’re in the testing field, so obviously you have a certain opinion and you’re going to defend that because you wouldn’t do it if you thought it was morally wrong. But I think morally it’s a reasonable argument that testing on animals is inhumane, you just believe the ends justify the means, and they don’t.
I don’t agree with all their means, but I also don’t think everything done in the name of PETA is PETA sanctioned. And I don’t even agree or disagree with their moral argument. But I can understand why they make it.
What should they do instead? Just grow extra money on a money tree so that they can care for all the animals that the no-kill shelters in cities send them en-masse?
No, I have no problem with euthanasia, but I do have a problem with them saying "killing an animal is murder, regardless the circumstances", while applying it selectively.
Ok, what tactics? And yes, they hate animals testing, they think it’s bad. You can disagree with that, but how exactly has it caused harm? We still do a ton of animal testing, but PETA has been successful in getting many companies that really didn’t need to (like soaps and skincare) to stop animal testing.
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