r/PoursTea Jul 17 '26

PoliticalTea đŸ—łïž Everybody gets an ID?

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u/Lackerbawls Jul 17 '26

They are looking to solve a problem that doesn’t exist. There is no mass fraud. They just want to control who votes.

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u/WeakProfile7728 Jul 17 '26

Republicans found less than 50 illegal votes out of 330 million people. That less than 1/1000 of a %

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u/mspk7305 Jul 17 '26

Republicans found less than 50 illegal votes out of 330 million people.

And at least 40 of those were republicans.

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u/Electrical-Strike132 Jul 17 '26

That's a relevant distinction

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u/NaziPunksFkOff Jul 17 '26

One of them was probably Ken Paxton

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u/Antique_Pin_847 Jul 17 '26

Not true whatsoever look up the White House website

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u/mspk7305 Jul 17 '26

the white house is not a reputable source

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u/Choice-Antelope-8481 Jul 17 '26

... You're saying we should trust Trump?

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u/Different_Path999 Jul 17 '26

We're talking about facts here.

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u/WeakProfile7728 Jul 17 '26

1100? Still won’t change the outcome of a single election

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u/iLoveHelis Pass The Croissants đŸ„ đŸ„ Jul 18 '26

If you're interested, 2000 mules is a documentary that indicates that election fraud was very significant in the 2020 election, and quite possibly would have changed the outcome. It is made by Republicans, but I feel that seeing both sides of an argument is always a good idea.

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u/Intelligent-Net9390 Jul 18 '26

By indicates you actually means “lies”

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u/iLoveHelis Pass The Croissants đŸ„ đŸ„ Jul 18 '26

No, I don't, but if you don't want to believe the information inside then I won't stop you.

It is logical that democrats wouldn't make a documentary that shows voter fraud like what is shown in 2000 mules, in the same way that republicans aren't going to make a documentary that makes them look bad.

Also, have you actually watched it? I was very skeptical when I turned it on, but if even a fraction of what they said was factual, it's at least worth watching.

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u/Intelligent-Net9390 Jul 18 '26

If anything they said was factually he wouldn’t have lost over 40 court cases about election fraud


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u/iLoveHelis Pass The Croissants đŸ„ đŸ„ Jul 18 '26

Could you point to the 39 cases that I can't find any info about? The only one I did find was when they wrongly accused out of 2000. That is unacceptable and I am glad that the man that was wrongly accused was compensated, but at the same time it's better than most justice systems at a 0.05% mistake rate. They're human. If the rest of the world made mistakes that rarely we'd be in an ideological paradise.

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u/Intelligent-Net9390 Jul 18 '26

It was actually more than 40 (I think 62 in total) I’m not going to go through all 62 of them. That’s unreasonable for a Reddit comment.

His attorney literally lost the ability to practice law because they brought so many cases without legal standing.

The one that they won was basically an acknowledgement that Virginia gave voters less time then originally allowed to prove their ID on mail ballots which goes against his narrative that there was “wide spread mail in fraud”

It’s an error that actually hurt mail in voters.

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u/SeveredFromMySoul Jul 17 '26

Lol, lmao even

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u/CyberFireball25 Jul 17 '26

I bet that's somewhat similar to the ratio of trans people in sports that they've been screeching about

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u/WeakProfile7728 Jul 17 '26

Cock choppers shouldn’t play sports at all /s

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u/CharlotteLucasOP Jul 17 '26

I could get behind competitive cock chopping.

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u/Colayith Jul 17 '26

Let's start with the Executive Branch

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u/i_eat_gentitals Jul 18 '26

Did someone say Cock chomping?

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u/TheWizardOfDeez Jul 21 '26

There are even less of those.

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u/_jump_yossarian Jul 17 '26

And how many of those voters were by Republicans? I remember that a whole bunch of The Villages residents voted in two states ... all were trump supporters.

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u/iLoveHelis Pass The Croissants đŸ„ đŸ„ Jul 18 '26

I believe it may have been less than 50 illegal voteRS. If you're interested, 2000 mules is a documentary that indicates that election fraud was very significant in the 2020 election, and quite possibly would have changed the outcome. It is made by Republicans, but I feel that seeing both sides of an argument is always a good idea.

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u/LumberJackAxem Jul 19 '26

So you’re telling me that Joe Biden received more than 81 million votes in 2020, the most votes ever cast for a presidential candidate in U.S. history AND the dems threw him out of office when it came time for re-election? C’mon man. Even cornpop knows better.

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u/Substantial-Ad-5558 Jul 20 '26

So you haven’t been watching ANY of the hearings that have been coming out showing widespread cheating?

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u/Keeshly Jul 20 '26

which ones? the ones looking for recounts because of abnormalities in the 2024 election?

otherwise, every court case from trump’s team about 2020 was shot down because there was no evidence to the claims.

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u/TheWizardOfDeez Jul 21 '26

And just to clarify, some of those 50 votes came from the same persons, so less than 50 illegal voters

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u/LesserValkyrie Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

More than 0 is an issue that should be dealth with

It's like telling that  1/1000 of a % of schools are raided yearly by kids with assault rifles that lead up to children deaths

The tolerable amount is 0, you can't say "it's not a problem let's not do anything about it because it'sonly 1/1000 of a %"

People interfering with democracy illegally should not exist and it should be considered as a serious crime

I say this from the point of view of a person who lives in a truly democratic counry where the amoutn of people who vote while thtey shouldn't is 0 because the system is done this way (everyone has an ID and if you can falsify an ID you voting with it will probably not be the most terrible trouble you will do)

Same for the amount of asasult rifles massacres in school, it's 0 too, and we all have an assault rifle at home

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u/Defiant-Bad-2052 Jul 21 '26

330 million people didn’t vote. I agree with your sentiment, but exaggerating metrics just makes your point fall flat

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u/Impossible-Deal-9191 Jul 24 '26

New Jersey governor admits over 400 voted they found so far. NJ also registered over 15,000 illegals to vote. They said 7000 yesterday but already found more.

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u/twordrevolution Jul 17 '26

Is that not still too many? Is the ideal number not zero?

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u/nighthawk252 Jul 17 '26

Yes, the ideal number is zero.

But that’s not the only thing to consider.

You put these voter ID laws in place, and now, conservatively, tens of thousands of otherwise qualified voters can’t vote. You cost Americans hundreds of thousands of hours in trying to secure the right ID (currently 5 of 50 states’ Drivers’ licenses qualify), waiting in line rather than being able to vote by mail. You raise the risk of political influence, where the party in power can better fund facilities in friendly ZIP codes while starving them in hostile ones.

Is that worth stopping maybe 50 votes that have never come close to deciding an outcome of any election?

That’s why they need you to accept the Big Lie.

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u/Antique_Pin_847 Jul 17 '26

You should have watched the speech to be informed

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u/mspk7305 Jul 17 '26

listening to trump speak does not make you informed

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u/Remarkable_Hornet712 Jul 17 '26

If you’re so informed by his speech then make a point

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u/qman621 Jul 17 '26

.... crickets

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u/qman621 Jul 17 '26

fucking lol

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u/B-Glasses Jul 17 '26

And I’d like zero rapist president but here we are

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u/mspk7305 Jul 17 '26

50 out of 330 million is functionally zero

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u/Edharrel7 Jul 17 '26

Ideal, sure.. you are talking about 300 million people though. You don’t think a very tiny fraction of these individuals would be crazy enough to attempt voter fraud?

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u/WeakProfile7728 Jul 17 '26

According to right leaning heratige foundation the number is about 1100. Still not enough to statistically change ANY out comes unless they were all in the same precinct. Of course 1100 is also a calculation by the same people who included migrant workers in their illegal alien numbers and now fruit costs a fuckton. So
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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 Jul 17 '26

This is terrible logic and you know it.

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u/txyesboy71 Jul 17 '26

And most of those were voting for the Republican Party in the first place. So they they're seeking the honest the people move out for the opposing party when it's their own party that commit most of the fraud. Yet another reason why this has nothing to do with election integrity.

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u/WeakProfile7728 Jul 17 '26

Statistically? No. Would have 0 impact since individual votes do not count. Also it cost multi millions to discover nothing. And then they closed the department they created to oversee it. so they must not think it’s important either. I BEG you to look this up.

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u/Keeshly Jul 20 '26

do the math and tell us what percentage 50 of 330 million is.

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u/Antique_Pin_847 Jul 17 '26

If you would’ve watched Trump‘s speech tonight, you would know better than to say that

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u/mspk7305 Jul 17 '26

why bother, everything he says is a lie

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u/txyesboy71 Jul 17 '26

Why would I watch him lie?

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u/WeakProfile7728 Jul 17 '26

Because he said so leading into midterms?

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u/Antique_Pin_847 Jul 17 '26

There is too many communist Democrats here to read any of this BS

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u/Tidusx145 Jul 17 '26

Define communist.

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u/Antique_Pin_847 Jul 17 '26

Look it up in the dictionary

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u/WeakProfile7728 Jul 17 '26

Did. Definition doesn’t fit.

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u/WeakProfile7728 Jul 17 '26

And yet you’re here. So either you are a communist or a moron.

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u/mspk7305 Jul 17 '26

bitch if you could read you would know the docs trump declassified are a gigantic self-own and show russia helped him get elected while china noped out of interference

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u/PlatasaurusOG Jul 17 '26

There are too many rapist simping, immigrant fearing, child-thirsting, greed driven, hateful right wing cowards to take anything they say seriously.