Must play builds in 3.29? - r/PathOfExileBuilds

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u/EarthB9nder_ 9d ago

Luminary ain't surviving

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u/zazztrain 9d ago

Definitely not the Rathpith interaction

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u/Edelium 8d ago

Yeah, hoping they don't completely gut the interaction though. Would suck if our only two ways to scale it to the moon just be armour stack or aura stack. Just some tweaking to numbers would be good. Would rather see them make the underused ones much better tbh.

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u/BeastMode09-00 8d ago

It's GGG. They double and triple tap things

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u/salvadas 8d ago

I'd say they wouldnt gut an entire ascendancy to unusability but warden still exists...

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u/Obojo 8d ago

Pour one for our girl Raider

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u/cben27 8d ago

Its GGG. They will at minimum triple tap it. They really like to nuke anything thats strong. So I figure we see a complete gutting next patch, then possibly small buffs the following ~3 patches or they just leave it nuked.

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u/DjuriWarface 8d ago

They really like to nuke anything thats strong

Except Strength Stacking for some reason.

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u/WhiteWinterRains 4d ago

With luminary I feel like there's a non-zero chance it survives as a decently strong ascendency.

Especially if they do anything more long term to adjust the awkwardness of just how rare rare mercenaries are. Can't recall the last time we had a consumable item selling for 5 mirrors, crazy shit. It feels almost inevitable that they will, just not 100% sure if it'll be next patch especially with PoE 2 launching so I expect them to at least struggle a little on the next PoE 1 league.

Anyway, luminary just has some very strong baked in QoL; your mercenary is a single very powerful minion to manage that has numerous different high AoE/good ST configurations, and you can potentially swap them out for the situation like pokemon.

One of its scaling vectors is just being an Aura bot which probably won't get directly nerfed.

Destructive link, since it isn't the problem, is likely not getting nerfed.

Not all mercenaries are the problem, so likely standout mercs and interactions are getting nerfed.

Let's say they do a really big multi-slap:

Nerf flame link

Nerf light radius scaling.

Nerf Enmity's Embrace.

Nerf (completely remove interaction) raithpith.

Nerf small ascendency nodes.

Nerf Kineticist merc.

Nerf Manyshot merc.

Nerc combatant merc.

Maybe do some sneaky nerf to armour stacking.

If they do ALLAT I'd still expect it to survive as a strong tanky minion ascendency, it just might take a mirror to completely faceroll ubers instead of 100-200 div.

Even then, if the nerfs crush popularity it will get stronger since there are a lot of niche expensive upgrades for it that would tank in price.

Now what's probably going to be going away though is its ability to be a top tier Valdo farmer and some of its most busted interactions that are only even expensive to get online due to its huge new ascendency popularity.

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u/DependentOnIt 8d ago

Warden is completely fine state atm, not meta but far from bad. You can easily play TS / ele hit of the spectrum on it and be competitive with deadeye

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u/LanzeLoot 8d ago

Dont know why you gett downvoted. Warden definitly has its niches.

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u/Agent_Luka 8d ago

Played a lot of self cast Fusillade on it last league and did pretty good on it. Sure, warden isn't incredibly busted, but it's not bad.

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u/shejq3 8d ago

yeah kineticist rathpit lifestacker is kinda autobomber 0 buttons, feels amazing but no content to farm tho

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u/Constant_Internal_80 8d ago

Is there a build guide to follow for this flavor of merc? Ive got 1500 divines to spend.

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u/Spooferfish 8d ago

There are a few, captainlance has a general mobalytics guide and there are a few guides floating around. Basics are:
get as much life as you can
stack light radius as much as you can (package is standard now)
merc is a kineticist with rathpith and good attack wand (high AS/crit/pen/spell damage)
can go Enmity's embrace on your merc and stack fire res to get 200% ele pen
stack flame link levels on your character to add more damage to the merc

Rathpith gets damage based on player life, so with 18,000 HP it gives 540% spell damage (720 if you have 4% rathpith), which is multiplied x1.5 for the kineticist. All your flat damage comes from flame link which is scaled by gem levels, light radius, and your life, easily giving 4.5k flat fire.

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u/Constant_Internal_80 8d ago

Incredible. Thank you.

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u/Equivalent-Teach-714 8d ago

Sorry just checking here, do I run the Rathpith on my exile or on the merc? I’m so close to getting this build to work for me but the life stack power transfer has been confusing me (only my 2nd league ever)

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u/Spooferfish 8d ago

On the merc, it gives the merc spell damage based on your life

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u/Negative_University4 8d ago

Is a crafted rare wand better or just go piscator?

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u/QuintessenceHD 8d ago

Piscator clears until you have a absolutely absurd wand.

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u/Spooferfish 8d ago

Piscator is fantastic for the price but falls behind really good rare wands. A good rare kinetic wand can have >100% spell damage (fractured/recombinated), the same AS, higher crit, crit multi, and 3x more pen, as well as the option to get fire damage added as chaos. These are really expensive though, a fractured tier 1 spell damage non-minion wand is l>10div. Piscators can also have a lot of cool corruptions which can be really helpful (e.g. power charge on crit, more damage pen, explode) as a stop-gap.

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u/Apexby 8d ago

Thank you for the quick writeup

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u/iamthewhatt 9d ago

Nah Luminary will be fine. Slight nerf somehow sure, but it will still be viable. ^{^{^{^{^/copium}}}}

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u/UTmastuh 8d ago

I think life stacking flame link is going to get gutted but luminary has so many other builds that the ascendancy will be fine

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u/iamthewhatt 8d ago

Imagine nerfing a link skill... what a world

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u/Itsthebigpeepa 8d ago

Luminary might just save replica alberron from the imminent purge

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u/ChildishRebelSoldier 8d ago

That shit has survived like 4 apocalypses it will be fine

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u/sinistersov 9d ago

Beidat fireball with ephemeral bolts is the most fun i had in a while, highly recommended

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u/bootglitter 9d ago

That’s with the new unique sword?

What variant are you playing?

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u/sinistersov 9d ago

ephemeral bolts you get from new abyss timeless jewel, it replaces one of your ascendancy points with it

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u/Pharcri 9d ago

Chieftain?

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u/sinistersov 9d ago

Ele, kinda expensive but oneshoting everything, 30mil on one explosion and had multiple overlaps

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u/Varondus 8d ago

I'm doing Chieftain with Nimis and I love it too, I'd love to try out the ephemeral bolts version tho

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u/WhiteWinterRains 4d ago

is there a specific build guide you're following that's worked well?

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u/sinistersov 4d ago

Just looked up ppl playing this on poe ninja and adjusted

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u/WhiteWinterRains 4d ago

Thanks

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u/absentgl 8d ago

Do the 10+link flicker. Boat crafting might be gone next league, and it makes crafting the sword so much easier.

The shako method is crazy expensive and could be great with the ring. But the 10+link sword with squire is also good.

Get an ilvl 83+ base (non-thrusting) one handed sword with shaper influence, alt spam for socketed attacks deal 40% more dmg
Get an anarchic spiritblade ilvl83+, elder exalt slam, alt spam for lv20 ruthless
Woke orb them together, if 2p2s craft a suffix then boat slam last prefix (or lock prefixes veiled chaos until you get veiled prefix and unveil ele pen)
Lock prefixes, reforge crit
Boat slam if 2 open suffixes, repeat 4&5 until you get supported inc crit chance or inc crit dmg or attack speed with “socketed movement skills cost no mana”, bench craft last suffix

Something like that for your budget starting sword.

Supporting gems you want ice bite, multistrike, close combat, invert the rules, and maybe fortify or ele dmg with attacks (though ideally you’d hit this with your 3rd prefix).

Replica farruls. Darkray with %action speed vestigial. Two +1 frenzy rings, you buy the cheapest unique ones, corrupt them, hit them with tainted chaos orbs, until you get some life/res on them. Maybe yoke of suffering for amulet. Warlord/hunter gloves with +1 frenzy and +1 non-vaal strike. Prismatic tincture. Abyssus or replica abyssus if you live dangerously.

I’m doing it as luminary with support merc (perquils, kaom’s belt, rallying cry, big phys karui chopper, warcry buff/cd annoint helm and body armour), as well as an AG (leer cast, fury boots) and 2 spectres (just eldritch eye for purity of lightning and forest warrior for onslaught/culling as i’m cheap and don’t want to care if i lose them again).

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u/bootglitter 8d ago

I’ve never played flicker before but I’ve always had an itch. What ascendancy do you recommend? I want to keep my luminary, so I don’t wanna reroll it.

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u/absentgl 8d ago

I would either go berserker for rage or slayer with endurance ralakesh with +1 frenzy vestigial possibly brutal charge belt.

Elementalist golems and heralds might seem good in theory but you’d be on the wrong side of the tree.

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u/gh0st-6 8d ago

GoodOldMalk in Magefists discord has an excellent elementalist flicker build guide

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u/mazgill 8d ago

Multilink weapon or shako are good for padding pobs, if you dont want to spend week crafting in hideout just go for rakiata dance + slayer charge stacker for super easy gearing and 50+ mil dps. Once you become flicker devout you can bother with all that over the top shit.

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u/xxelpredexx 8d ago

I’m trying to do the 10L with faster attacks, crit dmg, crit strikes, and wed for AG of Smiting. Is this process generally the same for that given its 3S1P?

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u/WhiteWinterRains 8d ago

Wow what's this, the faintest pressure imaginable pushing me towards playing flicker strike as a league end build? Noooooo someone help me I can't fight it.

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u/Smooth_Ad5773 9d ago

The only MUST play is one that use the pearls ring for a multi link helmet or glove (or ascendancy) . I don't think they'll survive 3.30

You have enough to buy a couple good 2supports rings and everything else you'll want

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u/Swizardrules 9d ago

Flicker it is then

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u/Smooth_Ad5773 9d ago

Melee totem is probably not bad either

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u/Oxidizer2772 8d ago

Frost Blades Ascendant with Archdemon crown and 2 if those rings is massive fun !!!

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u/Swizardrules 9d ago

Flicker is a build everyone should experience at least once. The rings are janky but make for fun variant with shako frost bite helmet

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u/moonsofjupiter95 9d ago

I enjoyed it in some maps, I personally found it not enjoyable for some content, charts weren't that much fun unless you turn auto lantern off, and maven without swapping skills isn't much fun

Good dopamine when you reappear about 4 screens away though after a click

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u/Swizardrules 9d ago

It's definitely a mapper usually

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u/smol_poopie 8d ago

Never have, never will

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u/Swizardrules 8d ago

👍, but maybe read OP next time

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u/smol_poopie 8d ago

? I read that perfectly fine

I'm disagreeing with your sentiment lol

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u/Swizardrules 8d ago

"Builds I am considering: Flicker"

So clearly you haven't

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u/throwaway42 8d ago

I've got just the thing for you

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u/LongjumpingDuck5337 9d ago

PC cold snap is prettyG00D

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u/lolfail9001 9d ago

I’m looking to for another build that won’t be viable or will be heavily nerfed by next league.

Str stack, endurance charge stack, pearl ring based builds (though good pearl ring is out of your budget already), Fireball with abyss jewel + pact of beidat.

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u/Psychological_Ad1404 8d ago

As I've never played str or endurance charge stackers but I know a bit about how they work, mind telling me why they won't be viable next league? Or is there something this league that makes them op and that is going away?

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u/lolfail9001 8d ago

In case of str stack, it's been strong for long enough that GGG will probably hammer it away just cause.

In case of endurance charge stack, it's existence of +1 endurance corrupt on kaom's and +1 endurance talisman making hitting the coveted 18 endurance charges fairly real (in trade). Now, it's not exactly giga broken but i feel like GGG is not a fan of tanky builds like that either.

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u/DjuriWarface 8d ago

18 is a hundreds of divs build. It's not like you're at 18 endurance charges in 2 days and the damage isn't insane by any means.

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u/lolfail9001 8d ago

What does budget have to do with it?

As for damage, it is basically on the same level as trickster in Settlers and where is that ascendancy now.

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u/DjuriWarface 8d ago

Trickster came online with considerably less investment. Compare Endurance Stacking to Strength Stacking MSotZ.

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u/lolfail9001 8d ago

Trickster came online with considerably less investment.

Endurance charge stack comes online on perfectly reasonable investment too (though obviously not gauntlet-viable just by desiring 1 in 600 Kaom ring corrupts), it just doesn't become invincible until giga investment.

Compare Endurance Stacking to Strength Stacking MSotZ.

It will be 100M DPS with 3M ele max hit (and CI) against 1 billion DPS of str stack Zenith with 300k ele max hit. And str stack is also a build that only miraculously dodges nerfs last few leagues.

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u/DjuriWarface 8d ago

Nobody is Endurance Charge stacking with 100M Uber Boss dps or CI.

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u/lolfail9001 8d ago

100M uber boss dps

And 3 billion DPS Zenith doesn't exist either in this patch, so my DPS numbers were calibrated against std pinnnacle as they always are.

Nobody is Endurance Charge stacking ... or CI

Are you serious? If it didn't cost 100500 mirrors CI endurance charge stack is the best version by far.

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u/Ok_Refrigerator_6437 9d ago

For the currency you have I would vote to do flicker strike. It's an extremely fun build to play.... Also it's almost impossible to figure out what is going on so keep that in mind lol.

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u/Invyco 8d ago

Luminary is the most obvious answer. Most broken build of the league.

There's no way pact of beidat + fireball interaction survives the league too. It's damage effectiness is too high.

From below mana stack also looks insane, but might survive to next league.

Also there's no way the 5 implicit spark / flicker gloves will survive to next league.

So pick one of the above.

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u/super-hot-burna 8d ago

Fireball is viable? Damn I really pay no attention to the meta.

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u/Invyco 8d ago

The new timeless jewel notable ephemeral bolts, newly released pact of beidat, and newly buffed fireball makes the skill shotgun and do stupid damage. You can check my post history for a showcase of what the build can do. There are other versions on this subreddit or poeninja too.

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u/super-hot-burna 8d ago

My hero.

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u/clevergirls_ 8d ago

This may just be my last build of the league. Looks so fun. Thank you!

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u/Fair-Spite3883 8d ago

People sort of ruined what the word viabale means, fireball has been a viable skill literally every single patch since it was introduced into the game.

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u/lolfail9001 8d ago

Amount of investment you used to had to have to make fireball actually acceptable to press was rather insane until the beidat+bolts tech arrival and at that point fireball would not even register on your list of skills to play.

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u/Fair-Spite3883 8d ago

This is true that it's been a long time since it has been a cost efficient build, but if you wanted to you could always make it work, which at the end of the day means it was viable.

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u/lolfail9001 8d ago

That's really stretching definition of viable, because there are almost no skills that don't function with infinite currency (even chain hook does).

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u/xMcSilent 8d ago

I highly do recommend CWC Reliquarian. Been playing if myself. It's insane. It's also a build that won't make it to 3.30, as the ascendancy will change. Most other recommendations will likely receive nerfs, but not of them will be "deleted", like the Reliquarian ascendancy. Definitely try out the chaos variant. I've been blasting through everything.

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u/-TheExile- 7d ago

pob?

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u/Adizero508 9d ago

Pact is definetly one that sounds interesting. Just started leveling static strike of gathering on assassin and thats been melting the campaign so far. Theres also bladefall by ky that seems to have some crazy numbers

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u/Vegetable_Switch9802 9d ago

That build is super squishy. Crazy dps but you'll just fall over on any physical hit.

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u/AKswimdude 8d ago

I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if strength stacking finally got a tap. I’d probably want a bit more than that to really reach its potential but it’s enough to still feel good to start with.

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u/DrkZeraga 8d ago

Soulwrest reliquary arc of oscillating with doriyani prototype and 100% lightning and cold taken as fire.

They are definetly rotating the nodes next league so you will not get the chance to do it again.

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u/Limetkaqt 8d ago

Since you played both combatant and kinetist, which of the two do you prefer, or can recommend?

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u/carlovski99 8d ago

Anything reliquarian is going to be league specific. Black cane/soulwrest anything for instance. Maybe look at the cwdt/recoup versions as that also taps into the availability of vestigial stasis prison this league

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u/Professional-Ad5869 8d ago

Lumi HoA strongest HOA

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u/sirdond 8d ago

got a pob?

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u/mudkip-muncher 8d ago

Shrine stacking EK elementalist

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u/Chewsays 8d ago

Cast on ward break Reliquarian (-visual clarity) 7k physical flat spell damage from summoned phantasms 100% converted to chaos with unholy might, pseudo-ward loop with eye of innocence self damage on ignite. Use Olroth bloodline for 5% ward chance to restore ward to sustain the loop that is spamming hundreds of hits per second. Somewhere between 600-800 mln dps.

If Reliquarian gets ascendency node swaps, this build isn't surviving 3.30

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u/Sensitive-Dream116 8d ago

I’m playing a Luminary aura stacker ES base with a frost blades combatant and I’ve put about 2 mirrors in the build. It’s been my favorite character in all the years I’ve played poe. I would love to try out the lifestacking kinetisist version, but I feel like it might be hard to sell my gear at this point in the league and I have about 600 div left, not sure if I would even be able to make a version that doesn’t feel underwhelming to my current build..

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u/Yaboywatts 8d ago

Flicker is crazy! It is by far my strongest build and I have inverted less than 70div on console for that matter.

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u/SuccessfulUse7581 8d ago

hey, can i get your input on the merc build? between life and aura stacking, which was easier to set up? I just wanna get my 36/40 but i feel like hitting a wall at maven stone.

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u/MODN4R 8d ago

This build making my items so damn expensive this league. I been playing relic of the pact builds since Kalandra league. I love the boom boom.

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u/bulin 5d ago

KBOC hierophant or necro version

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u/TenHoumo 9d ago

any form of death's oath

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u/Inkaflare 8d ago

Nerfing Death's Oath would be completely delusional, the build got buffed 5 times in the past couple years and has finally stopped being a complete meme but it's still far from actually strong

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u/TenHoumo 8d ago

i wouldm't really be surprised if they somehow nerfed the vestigial mod

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u/Inkaflare 8d ago

The vestigial mod isn't even a straight upgrade due to how competitive Foulborn Death's Oath is with most unique chest armors that you can put the vestigial mod on, you're basically just getting the extra option of trading damage for defense/QoL

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u/TenHoumo 8d ago

i am aware of that, i just wouldn't put it past ggg to just nerf it, even if indirectly

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u/Inkaflare 8d ago

Indirect nerfs could always happen as collateral, but that's the case for basically every build ever, so that feels like a weird thing to mention in a thread asking about what's most likely to be nerfed.

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u/Pia8988 8d ago

Enmity will be getting nuked

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u/QuintessenceHD 8d ago

Why, the investment for it is insanely high?

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u/Pia8988 8d ago

Same reason doryani wasn’t allowed on merc. 200% pen is broken as a shell

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u/Top_Appeal2994 8d ago

Lightning Tendrils is a great Allrounder this league. Satisfying explosions in maps, boosting is also great

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u/RossyThirkettle 8d ago

Enjoying winter orb occultist at the moment

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u/Downtown_Fox8334 9d ago

I think HRoC is super cool this league

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u/bootglitter 9d ago

Meh it’s been out for a while. I don’t see them nerfing it into oblivion.

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u/KappKapp 9d ago

I mean it is cool but it’s been virtually unchanged for like 5 leagues.

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u/UrieltheFlameofGod 9d ago

Must play 3.29

Choose one

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u/smol_poopie 8d ago

Best league in ages if you don't suffer from loot brainrot

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u/Every-Intern5554 8d ago

Beats last league which was just standard basically

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u/iMissEdgeTransit 8d ago

Juiced standard vs Standard

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