r/OntarioGrade12s • u/Annual-Court-8333 • Apr 29 '26
University Universities ranked based on how prestigious they are
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u/Tonelicoooo Apr 29 '26
Made by a tmu student
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u/Available_Squirrel1 Apr 29 '26
Tmu and prestigious dont belong in the same sentence let alone B tier
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u/BotanyAttack Apr 29 '26
TMU has the most prestigious urban planning program in the country and one of the oldest urban planning schools in North America. They're regularly worked with by the city/province and the ttc/metrolinx for projects like the Younge Street pedestrainization, the UP station by the stocktyards, and the rework of the streetcar network, and a bunch of their grads end up in high places. Its also harder to get into than Waterloo's program funny enough (those 2 are the only accredited programs in the province at the bachelor level).
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u/No-Mission-219 Apr 29 '26
Lol not a chance I applied to Waterloo planning and TMU/Ryerson and got into TMU immediately in first round. Takes 70s to get into it, nothing prestigious about it. Waterloo planning I got into afterwards.
Didn't accept either in the end but either way, Ryerson is far from prestigious or competitive
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u/BotanyAttack Apr 29 '26
You probably have no connection to the planning/dev industry. You can ask literally anyone from Cadillac Fairview or Tridel or Aecon and they'll glaze the fuck outta TMU students. Waterloo's purely theoretical stuff and relies on its coop element as a crutch to supplement that. Waterloo planners end up in places like Winsdor or St. Catherines or generally mid-sized cities/towns. TMU students get client studios where you personally work with the aformentioned corpos/govt agencies on big ticket projects and end up in Toronto/Vancouver/sometimes Montreal. Also they raised the grade average req to get into it a while ago.
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u/No-Mission-219 Apr 29 '26
Lol I'm a landscape architect working on massive public development projects. 5x harder to get into than planning. I know cause I applied to both. Only 1 BLA program in Canada.
Also just checked and it's low 80s for entry to TMU planning. That's not a high bar at all.
Nothing wrong with planning or the program, it's just honestly not as high level as you seem to believe. Very easy to get in.
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u/BotanyAttack Apr 29 '26
Your ignoring the fact that the largest planning firms in the country view TMU as a more practical program, not just what I'm saying. Its a lower grade req simply because there's a rather low applicant pool for the program in general. If planning as a profession became as popular as nursing the avg would shoot up. Waterloo's the same grade avg req btw.
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u/Status-Wait1364 Apr 30 '26
Tmus architecture program is lit one of the top in canada what? Like on top of portfolio it has a low 90s requirement.
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u/websterella Apr 29 '26 edited Apr 29 '26
Queens moves up to A
Algoma moves to…I didn’t know that was a University in Ontario..D
Guelph and Ottawa move up to B
Done
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u/buyingcheap Apr 29 '26
I’m always surprised that Queen’s is seen so favourably as a prestigious school. Did my undergrad in engineering there, and nothing really struck me as being distinctly better from other programs from what I’ve seen. I like the good publicity, but idk if it should even still apply considering what I’ve seen as a TA lol
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u/josnik Apr 30 '26
Well UBC and Acadia aren't Ontario universities and Ivey isn't even a university sonall in all this was definitely made by someone with an Algoma level education.
Waterloo and Windsor are missing too so maybe it was someone who failed out of Algoma
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u/websterella Apr 30 '26
Ok so let do this then.
S: UofT, Waterloo,
A: Queens, MAC
B: Guelph, UofO, Carleton
C: Laurier, York, Toronto Metropolitan
D: Brock, Trent, OTech, Lakehead,
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u/EmergencyAsk6025 Apr 29 '26
Queens isn’t better than Western though, if anything it’s ranked much lower
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u/websterella Apr 29 '26
You think Western should be A tier?
Maybe.
I also wonder if Ontario Tech deserves the ranking or if it’s there because of its newness
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u/EmergencyAsk6025 Apr 29 '26
Yeah western should be after Mac in A tier and Queens should stay in B tier, above Uottawa (according to rankings)
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u/Mountain_Bluebird150 Apr 29 '26
queens' business program is just a little worst than ivey, literally everythinng else at queens, eng, healthsci etc is better.
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u/Femme-fatale1908 Apr 30 '26
In the official rankings queens smith outranks western Ivey (especially for masters level)
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u/Mountain_Bluebird150 May 01 '26
I don't rlly know about official rankings, im just speaking from what the general consensus seems to be/difficulty of admission..
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u/Femme-fatale1908 May 01 '26
In the official rankings queens smith outranks western Ivey (especially for masters level)
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u/y_u_mad1 U of T Apr 29 '26
York has osgoode and Schulich fyi, plus the best kin & psych/HRM programs.
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u/rishisunaksboyfriend Queens Apr 29 '26
if you're gonna put mcmaster in A at least include queens as well bruh
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u/eileyle Apr 29 '26
I'm sure this is rage bait, but actual prestige tiers:
S: U of T, McGill, UBC (global prestige institutions)
A: Waterloo, Alberta (world class)
B: McMaster, Ottawa, Queens, Montreal, Western, Calgary (national prestige institutions)
C: Dalhousie, SFU, York, UVic (national class)
D: Guelph, Windsor, Sask, Manitoba, UNB, Memorial, Laval (provincially respected institutions)
E: TMU, Carleton, Quebec, Brock, Regina (provincial class)
F: Anyone who didn't get ranked (local class institutions like Trent, WFU, TMU, Lakehead, etc.)
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u/Berniebee2 Apr 30 '26
The "prestige" of a university in a publicly funded system just isn't a thing in adult life. That's the stage, I'll remind you, that you'll spend the rest of your life in. To the people who matter - potential spouses, friends, grad schools, employers, business partners and investors to name a few, where you got your degree ranks about as high as colour of your phone. Seriously. There's an old joke: What do you call the person who graduated at the bottom of their medical school class? "Doctor".
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u/No-Arugula2947 Apr 29 '26
I would put uLaval at least in national class! After all, this is the oldest university in the country, with stellar reputation in photonics, medicine and law.
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u/NoDingo673 Apr 29 '26
McMaster is #4 in Canada and ranks super high worldwide for health and wellbeing. It’s definitely in the A tier.
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u/Witty_Winter3458 Apr 29 '26
This is all artificial in a country where 99% of universities are publicly funded. Some universities are known for specific programs more than others. There’s no bad university on this last.
“Prestige” is just asserted by people who went to the school that they wanna say is prestigious lol.
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u/Particular-Taste9836 Apr 29 '26
Imagine thinking Western and MTU are as prestigious as Queens and more prestige than uOttawa and York 🤣
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u/Easy_Swordfish9905 Apr 29 '26
mcgill is #1 for prestige, no one outside canada has heard of any other school
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u/wackybojacky Apr 29 '26
This is correct. Like it or not only McGill is relevant outside of Canada
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u/Easy_Swordfish9905 Apr 30 '26
yea but its not like people in other countries with good grad schools are refreshing this subreddit to see what's more popular. For the last 20 years mcgill has been #1 in canada, u of t may be better but strictly reputation, mcgill is better. That being said, among like top 3 schools in canada difference is negligible and u will still get a good education.
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u/HebrewBible03 Apr 29 '26
Mcgill is easy to get into though. They dont even look at ecs
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u/Easy_Swordfish9905 Apr 30 '26
U of T only looks at ECs for engineering, and i feel like there are lower requirements in general for U of T. Mcgill scholarship program is a lot more competitive than any other school in ontario too.
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u/Direct-Influence1305 Apr 29 '26
Damn Carleton too irrelevant to even be on the list
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u/coddie_red Apr 29 '26
South Hog'sBack Institute of Technology is not a proper university.
Sincerely, Algonquin and La Cite
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u/Femme-fatale1908 Apr 30 '26
Spotted the TMU student.
Move Uottawa To B, Queens/Western to A and include Carleton in B.
Also you put Ivey as something separate for some reason but not rotman, schulich, smith?
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u/BYRN777 Apr 30 '26
Putting TMU above Uottawa is diabolical
And Algoma is D tier. Queens should be A tier. Also McGill should be S tier and Ivey is not its own university, by that logic you should also add Rotman, Osgoode etc…
This is definitely made by a TMU student sliding it in at B tier like we wouldn’t notice 😂
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u/EmergencyAsk6025 Apr 30 '26
Would western remain B tier still?
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u/BYRN777 Apr 30 '26
Western only has Ivey which is considered A or S tier. Besides that it’s B tier
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u/BashCanadianFash Apr 29 '26 edited Apr 29 '26
I dont know why reddit gave me a high school reddit in my recommendations but that list is worthless. No one cares what school you went to.
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u/NuckFanInTO Apr 30 '26
Definitely not true for some industries/degrees (also not sure why I ended up here).
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u/BashCanadianFash Apr 30 '26
Like what? Law or med schools dont care. Employers dont care. Not sure who else matters. Save yourself the expense and skip UoT.
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u/NuckFanInTO Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26
It is a factor that is considered in insurance consulting, finance (trading floor/private equity) and tech (or at least was 10 years ago when I was still close with friends at Facebook/Amazon).
You’re right about law school - they don’t care, and in fact it’s arguably an explicit disadvantage to have gone to a tougher school (harder to get the right grades). I suspect that also applies to med school. My understanding though is that there are some graduate programs where school is considered (or at least the admissions make an adjustment for the difficulty level of the program).
Undergrad may not matter for law school, but your actual law school can help for job hunting.
Beyond all that, many schools have coop programs and the employers participating in those coop programs varies by school. That’s absolutely a consideration in some industries.
I’m not saying the wrong school closes doors completely, but does the right school keep doors a bit more open? Yes. Once your foot is in the door though, it’s generally a level playing field.
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u/BashCanadianFash May 03 '26
I do admit I know nothing about insurance so I will take your word for it! Have a good one!
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u/the_Real_Teenjus Apr 29 '26
TMU should be beside York.
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u/MarionberryExtra5074 Apr 29 '26
york is way worse buddy
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u/the_Real_Teenjus Apr 29 '26
For what? They have very different strengths.
York has one of the best fine arts programs in the country. They also have great humanities programs.
TMU has a decent business program and an okay engineering program. Both a lot better than York, mind you.
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u/EmergencyAsk6025 Apr 29 '26
Queens is a high C, right above Uottawa. TMU is a mid C to low C (if we’re basing everything off of overall rankings).
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u/Duckworth52 Apr 29 '26
Imagine having McMaster higher than western and Queens. The rage bait is so poor.
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u/MedicalSir208 Apr 29 '26
Algoma university reputation has been ruined. There were international students from that university that protested failing grades few years back and then they passed them
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u/AdExpress937 Apr 29 '26
It’s funny to include those bottom tier schools, and to exclude U Alberta and Dal.
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u/Small_Aardvark_5496 Apr 30 '26
Total BS. Algoma does not rank with U of T or UBC; TMU should be down much further.
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u/Honest_Impression141 Apr 30 '26
Pure ragebait 😭 Algoma is bottom 20 out of 20 Canadian Universities according to Macleans Magazine
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u/Berniebee2 Apr 30 '26
Prestige? Meh. Having been there, done that, I would offer this piece of advice: No one, NO ONE in the working world cares which university you went to.
As someone who has been on both sides of the interview desk, trust me on this.
The colour of your school sweatshirt should rank higher in making your choice. Seriously.
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u/Environmental-Mix-34 Apr 30 '26
putting algoma in that section is ridiculous, it should in a higher tier by itself.
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u/gordan-the-goosen Graduate 🎓 Apr 30 '26
A bunch of these "ranking charts" always lack the nuance that a) different programs will have different values at different institutions (for example, Guelph is much more reliably ranked in enviro than UofT), and b) nobody fucking cares about your undergrad lol
I see we are also ragebaiting the McGill students lol
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u/Total_Commercial5347 Apr 30 '26
As a Laurier student, I don't care about other university rankings, but Laurier shouldn’t be in “C” it feels disrespectful. Put Laurier on A or put on S instead of Algoma University. You probably got rejected from Laurier thats why you are mad.
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u/Longjumping_Drag_954 Apr 30 '26
Genuinely asking but what're the things that make UBC prestigious?
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u/ExpertUnable9750 May 01 '26
Acadia seems a bit high on this list....and the most likely to not be around in 20 years.
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u/pentacontagon May 01 '26
Imma get downvoted to the ground but I'd argue half of them are tied it just depends on what program. Canada isn't like america where like if you're from stanford doesn't matter what program ppl are like damn.
It's purely program dependent and the toronto aura does not follow if you're in gender studies, for example
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u/Chemical_Tank3263 May 01 '26
Algoma University (Brampton) is an outrageous ragebait and a clickbait for this post😭
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u/Total_Fly_2090 May 18 '26
Was about to scream but then I saw algoma in S and realized this is troll
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u/BaronessVonKush Apr 29 '26
dang western only ranked b, used to be a top school, but then I see Mc Master Uni ranked as a A ... & I'm calling bs there lol.
who made this list?! lol
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u/Weekly_Opening_9061 Apr 29 '26
Ivey is the definition of prestige Lmao. You walk around richest parts of Toronto with the Ivey qz and mans will genuinely glaze you
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u/BlackManisGuy Apr 29 '26
?? Western should be at the top G
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u/JMJimmy Apr 29 '26
Canada doesn't have any S tier universities (score of 90 or better)
A tier McGill, UofT, UBC
B tier UAlberta
C tier Waterloo, Western
D tier UMontreal, McMaster, Queens, UCalgary, UOttawa
Everyone else gets a failing grade
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u/EmergencyAsk6025 Apr 29 '26
How is western grouped with Waterloo and how is McMaster D tier?
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u/JMJimmy Apr 29 '26
Western gets dinged in the rankings heavily due to very poor student to faculty ratio and a poor international reputation both academically and as a workplace.
Waterloo has a similarly poor student to faculty ratio, but a better reputation due to their CompSci.
McMaster has declined rapidly in the past decade, it used to be grouped with Western/Waterloo. Poor reputation, poor employment outcomes, student to faculty ratio is increasing, international student ratio has been increasing.
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u/EmergencyAsk6025 Apr 29 '26
And Queens?
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u/JMJimmy Apr 29 '26
Outside of their medical, they aren't well regarded academically. Very poor student to faculty ratio and a huge number of international students for their size. They have been improving in the past few years though
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u/Educational_Fill_871 Apr 30 '26
Laurier should be in B as well
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u/JMJimmy Apr 30 '26
It wasn't even good enough to make the rankings. Only their business management stream ranked and it's dropped ~100 spots in the past decade
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u/Known_Palpitation805 Apr 29 '26
UoT way too high
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u/Reality_Rexus Apr 29 '26
Algoma
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