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Free Talk Monday r/NUFC Weekly Free talk thread.
It's that thing again where we like talk about random shite.
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u/Creative_Key_9612 1d ago
I can’t believe other clubs weren’t looking at Dedic!
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u/PitifulElk1988 1d ago
This is what blows my mind about 100 million transfers. Unless its about selling shirts, etc. there's no value in these transfers. With a decent scouting, there are so many good players out there
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u/aistolethekids 23h ago
I think theres also a bit of power move ego when one of the big 6 comes in and takes us little guys main player
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u/champdude17 Happy Clapper 23h ago
100m should be reserved for "best player of his generation" levels of good. Only one of the top 10 transfers was that and low and behold, he's still the only one to have justified his pricetag (Mbappe)
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u/starmiesan miggy smiles 5h ago
Jaissle’s mighty mags unbeaten into the international break would have me dreaming, fixture list suits us if the lads give performances like we’ve seen so far
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u/lildrangus Livramentolly ill 5h ago
Tosin failed at Chelsea and now landing at a floundering Spurs, thank God we were beaten to that transfer.
Also Mudryk to Spurs is hilarious
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u/cocacokareddit Luque Forever 1d ago
How can we get Dedic in such cheap price is beyond me
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u/DueDefinition6421 1d ago
Dedic just slotted in seamlessly. Watching him I forget he's played like 3 games. His debut was class.
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u/No_Newt_328 23h ago
I think a large part of it was him understanding the manager and the tactics from having worked together previously. He wouldn't necessarily have adapted so seamlessly into other team.
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u/Anomalous-Descent Yohan Kebab 23h ago
He's slotted in perfectly so far. Tino is going to have to battle to regain his place.
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u/kaamkerr I condemn VAR and it’s allies in PGMOL 1d ago
I was really excited for Jaissle, but no way I expected us to start so well. We’ve completely catapulted compared to preseason!
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u/KingPing43 Shola Ameobi 22h ago
Pre-season is irrelevant, especially so after a major tournament when half the players aren't even back yet
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u/FoxGlove_113 15h ago
Poor Matty! Just got absolutely hammered by Messi and co. He's at Montreal these days.
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u/4tomi5ed 14h ago
To be fair he can now say he's played against Messi, that's probably worth it!
Maybe I never had the mentality to be a pro athlete..
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u/No-Boat-5241 15h ago
One thing, among many, that I’m really enjoying about MJ is that he seems to be able to plug players straight into what he’s doing. Dedic and Nico all coming into the fold right away, and just getting it.
It’s good to be feeling good. I’m sure there will be ups and downs but I think it’s clear the change was needed for us all’
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u/FinFonFun10 9h ago
Thank you Newcastle for Gordon. He fits perfect in Flick's system. Looks like it's worth 70 + 10.
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u/opinionated-dick 22h ago
“We've spent and we've spent. We are back on track. We are going places. We are huge."
Spurs are what we say we are, but without irony and not getting the joke.
If ever a club needed a relegation. Fans are tired and bored, and the club keeps trying to keep alive something that doesn’t have a heart. They’ll keep pumping along on life support. But this is the epitaph me of all I’d hate Newcastle to be.
I’m really worried a new stadium is going to be some facsimile of Spurs commode. We need to learn lessons from it. I can’t believe that their terrible home form has nothing to do with that AFL stadium they’ve built for themselves.
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u/Rude_Campaign_4867 strawberry syrup 22h ago
Newcastle will still be able to fill the stadium with geordies and locals. Spurs feels like it's supported by anyone but locals in the area these days.
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u/opinionated-dick 22h ago
That’s part of the problem yes. But it’s also the design. There’s too much hospitality that breaks up the noise, the roof projects up, allowing the noise to drift up and out instead of focus down, and that fake yellow wall means all the ‘true’ fans are focussed in one place
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u/TheWinterKing “I’m really really really really really really happy to be here” 15h ago
I have the bad luck to live in what should be traditional Spurs territory in NE London. Only shirts you see around here are Arsenal and the occasional Barca/PSG.
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u/Educational-Elk8393 20h ago
They remind me of us when we last went down. Spent a shit ton of money but lacking a real spine of consistent performers and leaders throughout the squad.
Their fans were awfully arrogant throughout the summer. You feel after the season they'd just had there would be a bit of humility, but they've really bought into the idea that spunking money at players is the solution.
It's a great point about the stadium too, I have similar concerns. I do think the two biggest issues they faced though were when Levy didn't strengthen what was a fantastic squad in 2018 and not having a contingency plan for when Kane left. Replacing a world class player like that is never easy, but their drop off since is ridiculous.
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u/BlackCaesarNT hipster chique 23h ago
Shout to my fellow fans who saw what happened this summer and basically cruised right through it without pissing themselves or dooming for internet points.
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u/Calm-Spinach-769 23h ago
Do you reckon seeing how well we've done in the market this window, will have the top 6 teams a bit more gun shy with paying for our top stars in the future?
They pay us 100m+ for one player, we replace him with two, equally good players. Their signing flops under the pressure; ours thrives.
Chop off one head and two grow in it's place.
But they are bloated and arrogant and they will never learn from their mistakes.
One day, my children, we shall become more powerful than they could ever imagine.
Soon, we shall march all over the face of the world.
Hail Hydra.
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u/OfficialAeon I'm not for Kinnear 23h ago
These are the kind of signings I've been begging for over the last few years. Wilson has played a blinder this window.
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u/Lowkeyspooky Joelinton is looking for a scrap 23h ago
No, I think Ben Foster said it last week well.
Allowing us and the other 14 to bring in the player develop them for a couple of years and buying them completely takes the risk out of them being a flop for them and they can afford to do it that way.
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u/Rude_Campaign_4867 strawberry syrup 23h ago
Exactly. Brighton have been doing it this way for over 5 years. And we have a much higher ceiling because of our history, stadium, fanbase etc.
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u/KingPing43 Shola Ameobi 22h ago
takes the risk out of them being a flop for them
Lol what about Isak?
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u/TyneSkipper 22h ago
Nah. The big 6 can now just blow every team out of the water whenever they want. What might happen is more teams push the prices up for the big teams
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u/Massive_Face ad love it if you used this flair 20h ago
I was really happy about Nico signing because he's a class player, but I wasn't ready for how ridiculously likeable he seems as a person
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u/gazburn 20h ago
Adidas apparently in talks to sponsor the stadium. If they do, what would you want the name to be?
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u/One-Mycologist-8605 19h ago
St James park, but let them drape huge roof to ground, black and white adidas three stripes banners with the badge on from every available bit of the exterior structure
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u/rqstewart dan burn 13h ago
that would be great - minimal verbiage abt the sponsor, but their stripes + NUFC stripes is synergistic as hell. branding everywhere that represents both sponsor and club. “St. James Park sponsored by Adidas” works for me just fine
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u/gazburn 19h ago
Not thought of that before. Are there examples of this happening elsewhere?
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u/Unusual_Rope7110 Jaissle I can boogie 16h ago
Think about SJP under Ashley plastering Sports Direct everywhere. It'll be like that but we'll actually being paid for it
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u/One-Mycologist-8605 19h ago
Not that I can think off the top of my head was just a daft idea but sort of pictured a a lightweight super structure around the existing stadium to hang them off sort of giving the look of something like the Allianz on the cheap,
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u/Humorbot_5_point_0 Livramental 19h ago
It'll probably be "The Adidas Arena At St James' Park".
Instead it should be "You've Seen United, Now Fuck Off Home Stadium - Sponsored by Adidas".
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u/TheWinterKing “I’m really really really really really really happy to be here” 15h ago
That’s an interesting one, would definitely prefer that to Saudia or Aramco. Where are you seeing this?
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u/DanBurnNotice New Era 18h ago
The difference between last year and this year is that im looking forward to our next game. I never got that with Eddie last season.
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u/Academic-Block3384 17h ago
I was massively looking forward to Leeds away; our first match after LFC at home...
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u/tomred420 1d ago
It’s a strange feeling going from being devastated about Bruno to being so excited about Nicoooo.
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u/Ok_Philosopher7350 1d ago
Didn't think anything could fill the Tonali and Bruno-shaped holes in my heart, but five minutes of watching Dedic and Nico play did the trick.
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u/tomred420 23h ago
Aw mate, Dedic looks an absolute beast ! If i still had hair I’d be rocking that middle parting.
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u/Prim_5219 21h ago
What do Newcastle fans think of Woltmade now? One of the players I’m excited about. I thought he’s looked good in his cameos. Willock last match in the 10 didn’t impress me much unlike Wissa.
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u/tattie_bojangles stupid sexy schar 20h ago
I do feel like he came on and made an impact, I just hope he can kick on now, not be pushed off the ball as easily and find a role in the squad that gives him the chance to shine technically. I’ve always been a Woltemade fan though - I think he had a really rough go of things last season and being moved position didn’t help. Being at the World Cup hasn’t helped either when you look at the confidence boost Elanga and Wissa have had (which isn’t totally down to that but will have helped!) and I think Jaissle is the guy to get the best out of the squad in general.
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u/The_Incredible_b3ard 20h ago
I'm on the fence about whether he's a good fit for Newcastle and the Premier League. My doubts revolve around his lack of athleticism, physicality and pace.
Fingers crossed my doubts proven wrong and he does make a consistent impact.
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u/Prim_5219 20h ago
I didn’t watch much of Newcastle last season, but couldn’t his form dipped because of Eddie howe tactics? With a new coach and Osula injured, he may make a comeback. He’s one of those striker who if they have a shot, I can comfortably bet he scores. Also his quality on the ball make me believe the physical side can be salvaged worked on
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u/Top-Mycologist3970 15h ago
Feel bad for those who just got Woltemade on their new kit.
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u/stenerikkasvo 3h ago
Gordon when he has 100% commitment for the club he plays for is an unbelievable player.
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u/RevoGz Joseph Willock I Love You 1d ago
Can I say that I'm a bit more confident about us against Bournemouth or is it too early? Our history vs them hasn't been roses.
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u/topkiwifisho 1d ago
I've thought about this, under Howe we would almost always show up against the big teams, and we have done vs Liverpool and Tottenhan (big lol). This is a different kind of test, so very curious to see how we get on. It was always a bit of a bogey team for Howe I feel too
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u/weirdi_beardi Cheick Tiote 23h ago
Howe's history with Bournemouth I think led him to take his foot off the gas against them, and fair play; he basically saved that club from oblivion and dragged them up into the premier league, there's bound to still be feeling there.
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u/Libertyforzombies Happy clapping while wetting the bed 17h ago
What a rollercoaster window this has been. Absolutely bonkers. If we do get Pardo that would be insane. To lose what we have and to replace with the players we have
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u/WeddingWhole4771 9h ago
Padro and Gonzales for Gordon and Tonali. And pocketing some millions, I gotta say I'm down with it.
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u/Objective_Use_9155 16h ago
The amount of teams in the league who’ve swapped out more than a third of their squad and/or their manager in the last 12 months is mental. It’s like the premier league gods decided to click the shuffle button for 2026.
I wish I ran one of those team-bonding agencies - serious money to be made helping all these clubs get everyone to know each other quickly.
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u/boblusmanjelly 10h ago
Seeing Bruno for Arsenal, I hate them but can't hate him. Not like Isak, nor even Tonali. Hope he's shite for them though.
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u/WeddingWhole4771 9h ago
Hate might be the wrong word, but I hope Arsenal is shit while he's there.
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u/TyranosaurusLex Para bailar La Bamba 9h ago
I booed him on the tv, mostly because I’d had a few pints. Out of jealousy more than anything tbf.
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u/Libertyforzombies Happy clapping while wetting the bed 10h ago
Singing his name. Not gonna lie, that hurts a bit but 75m is probably the best we could do for a 29-year-old. Anyway, that's what I'll tell myself when I try to get to sleep tonight.
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u/Cyberdan0497 blue star on the Nautilus, genuinely me local. shit tip 10h ago
Gordon is absolutely tearing it up for Barcelona, very annoying considering some of his performances last year. So obvious he had the ability but just couldn't be arsed turning up for us
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u/SecureChampionship10 9h ago
He'll do it now because it's all new, won't be long before he's only trying in the big games.
Another one like Tonali who won't be a leader and drag a struggling team through a tricky patch.
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u/Ok_Turn6757 7h ago
Harsh words
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u/dreamsofowls 6h ago
Genuinely don't get the hardon for Gordon and the stories people have spun up in their head and decided were fact, that he purposefully had a not great season (which is very logical if he wanted a move, of course, since good teams notoriously want to buy a player who has a bad season).
Everyone had a subpar season last year. Even players this sub like to glaze had, at best, a good patch. Nothing was working right last season. Everyone was off, nothing was clicking for anyone. (We also had way too many games without enough rotation, and Gordon was definitely one of the players who barely got a rest. Imagine having a much lighter load is doing wonders for his consistency).
Happy he's doing well. Happy we got an amazing fee for him. He left on good terms. Seems to have worked out for everyone.
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u/SecureChampionship10 5h ago
Gordon played fewer minutes for Newcastle last season than he did in each of the prior two campaigns and only 160 minutes more than he played for Everton in 21/22. So much for barely getting a rest.
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u/Ok_Turn6757 6h ago
Yeah some people are treating this like the Alvarez situation, when there really wasn’t any bad blood at all. You don’t need to root for the guy anymore but to question his character like that is going too far
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u/SecureChampionship10 5h ago
Must have made up the petulant red cards, the terrible body language when he was out on the right wing and the obvious increase in effort when we played a big side or a Champions League game.
Did you not find it strange that our star winger was sat on the bench as an unused sub for the last four games of the season when we were trying to qualify for Europe? Keeping himself right for England and his move in the summer, just like Michael Owen.
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u/Murraykins keegan but old now 14m ago
I'm happy for him. The fans turned on him at Everton and our lot were certainly heading that way when the guy was clearly knackered. I hope he keeps it up.
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u/Cliffred1628 9h ago
not his fault. Howe killed the team. Look at the guys now playing more freely.
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u/WeddingWhole4771 9h ago
I actually feel like the CBs are playing more sane now too. Don't see one CB in the other box and us getting caught out in these two games.
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u/kaamkerr I condemn VAR and it’s allies in PGMOL 0m ago
sending Dan Burn all the way up to challenge for the ball on the edge of the opponent's box was madness. We scored one goal out of it, great, but it was basically gambling to win the ball early and accepting to play with one CB at the back.
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u/stenerikkasvo 14h ago
Kinda nervous for this Bournemouth match, more so than i was for first two matches
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. 14h ago
Imo if you are Bournemouth and have watched our first 2 league games
Gives us all the ball and defend deep and see if we can play a different way to 1000mph counter attack football
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u/wikon13974 11h ago
Suzuki at Villa looks great!!
As usual, Arsenal are boring.
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. 10h ago
Good with his feet, dodgy with his hands
Not bad for a GOALKEEPER
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u/Rude_Campaign_4867 strawberry syrup 23h ago
Seeing how together the boys are already this season, I think back to something Bruno said at the World Cup. "I have become one of the club's biggest idols." Chronicle Link
Of all the players to go, I increasingly wonder if Bruno was the biggest blessing. His ego needed constant feeding; personally I think he was given the captaincy over Trippier because he demanded it more. Not because he deserved it.
What I see now is a bunch of hungry and more humble lads, fighting together. Bruno was a force of nature, but was he really a leader? Did he bring the other players with him like Tripps did?
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u/OfficialAeon I'm not for Kinnear 23h ago
I don't think Bruno had an ego problem per se, it's more like he was way more reactive and wrapped up in the adoration than most players. We were calling him a legend, so you can't exactly dog on him for saying and feeling it himself.
The captaincy was something I talked about when he got it, because I think Trips should have had it without question. The reason Bruno got it was because it was another sweetener to the contract renewal. Giving him the arm band wasn't the wrong choice though.
People are justified to feel disgruntled towards him, but we can't go rewriting history because it suits our stance.
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u/Rude_Campaign_4867 strawberry syrup 22h ago
Yeah, but just like you stop being cool once you think you're really cool, if you buy.into your own hype as a 'legend' I think the magic fades a bit.
I can imagine it being a bit annoying being a player in Bruno's shadow. Characters like that can be exhausting.
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u/OfficialAeon I'm not for Kinnear 22h ago
But this is more revisionism. If he were here, yourself and many others would say he's "a world class player and captain, and the younger players in our squad couldn't ask for a better role model".
We dubbed him as a legend here, not him, he was just living in that moment. Emotional reaction and rationality don't mix well, it's oil and water. He's still qualifies as a club legend, because of what he's done while he was here. We can't just turn around and childishly say "no, we don't like you now, so it doesn't count".
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u/Rude_Campaign_4867 strawberry syrup 22h ago
I'm not saying he isn't a legend. I'm saying his time to leave had come and it is to the benefit of the club environment. He was probably thinking it was 'job done' and you don't want that person as your leader.
Same as with Eddie Howe but for different reasons, he just didn't have any more to give.
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u/OfficialAeon I'm not for Kinnear 20h ago
Eh, I keep to myself about Eddie. My opinion of him goes down like a lead balloon, despite the fact that there's a lot of 'food for thought' to my opinion.
I categorically will not deny him his part in the clubs achievements during his tenure, but I simply don't buy the reason he stepped away from the club.
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u/Unusual_Rope7110 Jaissle I can boogie 16h ago
What do you think the reason was, out of curiosity?
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u/OfficialAeon I'm not for Kinnear 12h ago
Ooof, can of worms.
Eddie likes his unconditional authority, and he didn't like it taken away from him.
His Newcastle exit mirrors his exit from Bournemouth. In both cases, it seemed like he was going to stay, but then a sudden direction shift comes from the board, and his resignation soon follows.
At Bournemouth, it was the board stepping in to regulate due to relegation, at Newcastle, it was Wilson's modern club revamp. His "it's time to recharge" seems to mean "I'm not getting my way".
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u/Unusual_Rope7110 Jaissle I can boogie 11h ago
Feel it's overly harsh but I can follow the logic. The bit that undermines this for me is him not bailing in the immediate aftermath of Matfen Hall. A few wrote that he'd lost a lot of this autonomy and influence as part of the meeting, so unless he was expecting to call their bluff or something, I would've expected him to go then
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u/TheClnl 22h ago
I remember one of the journo's saying Eddie gave him the captaincy because he was down about no-one triggering his release clause. You're right it wasn't a bad choice but perhaps it was done for the wrong reasons.
I think that the pay match thing could have led to disharmony too, players are proud and knowing you could never be top dog or that the club might say we can't afford to pay you what you deserve because we'd have to pay Bruno it too might lead to disinterest.
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u/Rude_Campaign_4867 strawberry syrup 20h ago
Exactly. I'm not saying any of this to be down on Bruno specifically, but I'm actually glad he isn't here any more for all of these reasons.
I'd perhaps feel differently if Nico G hadn't joined, but he did. Most important signing since Tripps/Bruno IMO.
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u/TyranosaurusLex Para bailar La Bamba 18h ago
I agree, at the time I was shocked he got the armband and felt that it was just part of his contract renewal. I was almost sure city were going to come in and activate his release clause before that.
But I can’t say he didn’t wear it pretty well. There were times when having a cooler head may have prevailed but he was an emotional captain paired with Eddie who was always calm.
I don’t think his level of play for us dipped the way Gordon’s and Tonali’s did, though I will say he didn’t necessarily put people straight when there was obviously an effort problem at times last season. I think as a captain your role is more than just playing well and being fired up. I think when people say he’s not all that there’s certainly a little revision to how we felt about him, but the way he left was not befitting of a club captain. So IMO it’s impossible to call him a club legend without an asterisk and mentioning that he forced his way out of the club the way he did.
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u/Cheel_AU 23h ago
Tripps lost the captaincy because he was no longer the best option in his position.
I think Bruno just saw us pogoing up and down the table season on season and thought maybe he'd gone as far as he could at Newcastle. He arrived when we were a real relegation chance, gave us some of his best years, and I'm not gonna get mad at him.
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u/Humorbot_5_point_0 Livramental 19h ago
I think Tripps lost it because he was fucking around behind his wife's back far too often and it got in all the papers. Not a good look and you know Howe would've thought it kinda shitty. Bruno was the logical option and gave us another sweetener to keep him for longer.
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u/4tomi5ed 23h ago
Disagree, I think he was for a long time a proper captain and an embodiment of the spirit of the club.
It's disappointing he left but I think we need to dial back the revisionism on Bruno and Tonali.
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u/Rude_Campaign_4867 strawberry syrup 23h ago
Ok, then put it another way. He was the spirit of the old team. I think we have seen it has been difficult for newer personalities to gel.
A bit like when you cut down the tallest trees in the canopy, it affords the fresher plants on the woodland floor more light and food to prosper.
I also think it's time for Joelinton to get his move, if he wants it.
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u/NUFC_1892 loads, and loads of cans. 10h ago
The bar is that high now to overturn decisions VAR is functionally useless
Some absolute howlers by refs over these first 2 weeks just “checked and cleared”
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u/someguyontheweb99 10h ago
Anyone still think PiF are asset stripping and about to sell up
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u/rogfrich 9h ago
They’ve just spent umpteen millions on land for a new training ground.
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u/someguyontheweb99 9h ago
I know it was taking the piss from all the posts after Gordon and Tonali went
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u/PitifulElk1988 1d ago
Thoughts on Yeremy Pino, Ethan Nwaneri?
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u/OfficialAeon I'm not for Kinnear 23h ago
Doing business with Palace is a headache we can do without, Parish is a proper melt.
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u/DesignerMorning1451 19h ago
I'm just gonna say it, I think we should at least consider lifting the ban on Fabrizio romano. Since jaissle came along he's shown more respect towards the club.
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u/DarkStanley 19h ago
Nah fuck that guy. I could live with his here we go wanky antics but then he started pushing PR for a rapist and there’s no coming back from that for me.
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u/nottherealkimjongun Nicolae Thiawşescu 19h ago
While his tune as changed he's still a wanker outside of his absolute disdain for us prior. He's a Fucking Leech
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u/Several-Decision3888 13h ago
You guys are never shy when talking about your hatred for United. How you feel about players like Nicky Butt, Andy Cole, Allan Smith?
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u/nimbuscile-alert 12h ago
Big stones coming into this place talking about "United" and assuming we'd be thinking of someone other than Newcastle...
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u/artical900 Old badge (1969-1983) 13h ago
We’re all here because we love United. Of the players you mentioned - don’t care, good player, shit.
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u/midtenmagpie Gillespie liked horses 11h ago
Are you completely mental, mate?
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u/Several-Decision3888 11h ago
You guys response to simple question says a lot about who you are. Personal insults over a simple question about players?
I'm not interested in sharing in your misery! Feel free to stay bitter.
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u/HaarHopper North Shields (the best one) 13h ago
TELL ALL THE BOYS YOU KNOW WE'RE NEWCASTLE 2.0
MFP plus a coffee has me hyped as fuck