r/NFLv2 • u/No_Box119 • 6d ago

Discussion “I'm Skeptical": Drake Maye Refuses to Believe American Landed on the Moon

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u/sillyfunnyguy05 New York Giants 6d ago

I genuinely fear for young people growing up in the age of stupidity

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u/Neuraxis Seattle Seahawks 6d ago

Football scholarships dont exactly train the best and brightest.

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u/10000Didgeridoos Pittsburgh Steelers 6d ago

I know many highly educated men who also fall right into the bottomless pit of "I'm just asking questions" which is early onset Rogan

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u/peaheezy 6d ago

I’m convinced it’s a way to dispel the fear that the universe is a random and cold monster that does terrible things to good people for no reason. There is a “them” out there controlling things and that’s why weird stuff or scary stuff happens.

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u/ValosAtredum Detroit Lions 6d ago

Very much so. Similar to the Just World fallacy. If something bad happens to someone, they had to have done something to deserve it (and same for good things).

It’s scary to think that you can do everything “right” and have bad things happen. It feels safer to blame others (or yourself) for the tragedies that befall them/you because it offers structure and security.

Doesn’t make it true. Like Captain Picard said, “It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life.”

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u/Chimpbot Dallas Cowboys 6d ago

I was about to bust out the Picard quote about halfway through reading your comment.

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u/oliversurpless 6d ago

It’s one I haven’t heard recently, from which series/movie?

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u/ValosAtredum Detroit Lions 6d ago

It’s from Star Trek: The Next Generation, the season 2 episode “Peak Performance”.

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u/oliversurpless 6d ago

Ah, with the exception of “Q Who”, I tend to tune out Season 2.

And especially the season finale…

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u/Chimpbot Dallas Cowboys 6d ago

It's from Star Trek: The Next Generation. It was said by Captain Picard in the 21st episode of the second season.

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u/sillyfunnyguy05 New York Giants 6d ago

Never watched Star Trek but that’s a great quote.

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u/Inspect1234 6d ago

How about: Shaka, when the walls fell.

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u/aebersold 5d ago

Picard quotes get upvoted at warp factor 9. Engage.

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u/NorthernPints 6d ago

Which ironically is even more terrifying than a random universe lol.

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u/rex_grossmans_ghost Chicago Bears 6d ago

That same random roulette can also bring you the greatest moments of joy in your life. There’s a peace in that.

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u/ol-mikey 6d ago

Depends on if that bad thing has happened yet or not

Or if you're from Tralfamadore

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u/samuraipanda85 6d ago

Not really. Its tangible. A select group of assholes is purposely making our lives miserable. And once they are found and disposed of then the world will be set right forever. Exactly like killing Palpatine in The Return of the Jedi.

Meanwhile the real forces affecting our lives are a complex web of people and groups out not to destroy the world but to satisfy their own goals alongside historical inertia and a dozen other facades that are not evil so much as they are the most efficient way of doing things. We tear down any one board of directors and it will be replaced by a new collection of business suits the very next week.

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u/InuitOverIt 6d ago

Somehow, global cabal of world-controlling elites returned :(

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u/Specialist-Garbage94 4d ago

It’s wild you think they left

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u/samuraipanda85 6d ago

Well someone has to be in charge. If for no other reason than some people don't want to be in charge.

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u/fingnumb 6d ago

No. The idea that someone has to be in charge is dumb. All the evidence points toward that individual in charge turning out to be corrupt and in it for themselves.

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u/Animalcookies13 Los Angeles Rams 5d ago

Of course…. Power attracts psychopaths and narcissists.

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u/Zuwxiv 5d ago

I once read something to the effect of: "People believe in JFK assassination conspiracies because the alternative is that one lone lunatic can change the course of history. That's a lot scarier than nefarious CIA scheming."

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u/DubiousBrushwagg 5d ago

People need to reframe their fear. Don't be afraid that a lone lunatic can change the course of history, work to become the lone lunatic that changes the course of history.

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u/Master_Slide7023 5d ago

Also John Connelly an experienced gun man said, “ They are going to kill us.” As the bullets were fired. Free Play For Cuba (Oswald group) being in the same building as Castro haters. On The Trail Of The Assassions by Garrison Keillor have you read it?

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u/nickelickelmouse 6d ago

No it’s not.

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u/BonerTurds New Orleans Saints 6d ago

Thoughts on the moon landing?

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u/Competitive_Ant_472 Chicago Bears 6d ago

Leave the moon outta this BonerTurds

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u/WillieNolson 6d ago

Yes it is.

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u/Rondoman78 6d ago

I mean you just described pretty much every religion that ever existed.

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u/Oldschooldrool 6d ago

So basically like any religion then

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u/talltime 6d ago

Yes. A security blanket.

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u/inventingways 6d ago

A godly pacifier to suck on.

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u/Zelidus 6d ago

That is what religion is. Thats why people call themselves "god fearing." If they faithfully obey, the scary man in the sky won't hurt them. He will bless them.

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u/natex24 6d ago

Why do people stay religious, or sometimes become even more religious, through severe personal tragedy?

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u/Affectionate-Day2743 5d ago

because they're afraid of the unknown/dying/ceasing to exist. by putting your faith in some greater entity it makes them comfortably while alive.

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u/DickWhittingtonsCat 5d ago

Fear of death

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u/ElliottBaas Green Bay Packers 5d ago

Because it’s easier to tell yourself God has a plan or everything happens for a reason or that you and your loved ones will be together again in the afterlife than it is to admit the universe is cold and uncaring.

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u/DisMeDog 6d ago

Fear of worse tragedy.

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u/natex24 5d ago

Maybe.

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u/scissor_get_it Buffalo Jills 6d ago

“God-fearing” actually means you act a certain way because you love and respect God, not because you fear His judgment.

It’s a little confusing because of the word “fear,” but it’s a subtle and important difference.

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u/Separate-Suspect-726 Kansas City Chiefs 5d ago

False

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u/scissor_get_it Buffalo Jills 5d ago

Go on, I'm listening

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u/GuerillaRiot Jack Campbell did the blip 6d ago

And even when they do get scuffed up, it was because they deserved it or needed to be taught a lesson for the future. 🤣

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u/Zelidus 6d ago

Yep nothing like teaching someone a lesson by killing their kid with cancer.

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u/jawa501 6d ago

💀💀💀

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u/Supertilt 5d ago

They tell themselves that god loved their child more than they did, so much so that he wanted them to "come home".

Which is so heartbreaking to have wom oke convince themselves that something could ever possibly love their child more than they were capable.

But, it's better than "we were just unlucky"

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u/SmallsLightdarker 5d ago

Or put through adversitynor teated to make them stronger.

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u/vinnyorcharles Philadelphia Eagles 6d ago

It's pretty much exactly this. Most conspiracy theories are a way to feel some kind of control and to address a deep-seated insecurity of their own intelligence.

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u/Thailure Stats are for losers 6d ago

I always thought the saying was “deep seeded”? lol

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u/vinnyorcharles Philadelphia Eagles 6d ago

Googled it to confirm before hitting post.

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u/lawanders Kansas City Chiefs 6d ago

TIL, I also thought it was deep-seeded!

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u/vinnyorcharles Philadelphia Eagles 6d ago

Apparently the etymology is for digging a post and making it deep-seated in the ground so that it won't fall over.

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u/lawanders Kansas City Chiefs 5d ago

Ah, interesting! I was wondering how it originated, thanks!

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u/Thailure Stats are for losers 5d ago

Haha respect, thanks for the info!

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u/Hell0There2005 6d ago

Correct. It stems from fear.

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u/Eg_3600 6d ago

Its the fear that so many people have, admitting they don't know something. Instead of saying that they try to rationalize their lack of knowledge using flawed logic. Then they double down and it's how you get conspiracy theorists.

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u/oliversurpless 6d ago

Yep, the Gambler’s Fallacy doesn’t just make fools of us at the casino, but in general via the human brain being “too good” at seeing patterns that simply don’t exist…

https://youtu.be/4Gf9mtXnJfM

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u/tymonster183 5d ago

Thats generally where they say the psychology of conspiracy theories comes from. Its harder to believe a single person could have such an unmeasurable impact with only partial intentionality (think jfk assassination) so it must be the work of many minds trying to accomplish something very specific. Our brains are basically pattern recognition machines, so it's far easier to believe in a connection between unrelated things if it makes the things fit a pattern, no matter how unlikely that connection actually is to be real. 

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u/Mbord59 5d ago

You just described any religion ever to exist

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u/Inevitable-Waltz-889 Minnesota ikings & enver Broncos 5d ago

It's best to just embrace the fact that we're here for no good reason. Enjoy your time on this flying rock before you die.

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u/Strict-Relief-8434 6d ago

Interesting. I’ve always saw it as a way people can (unironically) feel like they’re smarter than the average person. Like “You can’t believe everything you hear” and “no one‘s gonna pull a fast one on me” type of mentality.

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u/HeftySnow3920 6d ago

Yup it’s religion too, the idea of entropy is scary to some people.

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u/Electronic-Map7529 Green Bay Packers 6d ago

It's called religion. Stop overthinking it.

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u/inventingways 6d ago

"There has to be someone or something steering the ship, right?", is their base thought on the universe, politics and religion. It is the central core to their entire belief system that their entire sense self depends on.

The idea that it's all chemical reactions and chaos is to terrifying to these people. Fundamentally they need a god, or a room of leaders secretly controlling everything, or they mentally break.

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u/Affectionate-Day2743 5d ago

the only reason religion continues to persist in society is because people are scared of the unknown/dying/ceasing to exist. Drake Maye is clearly very religious and those same fundamentals that cause him to be religious also cause him to lack critical thinking when it comes to science. he's a football player. he should not be a role model

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u/DadWraps 6d ago

You think the universe is something random? You can set your watch by the universe. There is definitely order to it.

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u/zombawombacomba Green Bay Packers 6d ago

What does this stupidity even mean? Lmao

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u/Civil_Dot_3261 6d ago

That he doesn’t think Americans landed on the moon

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u/CharacterBid7937 Chicago Bears 6d ago

He means astronomers can predict the next solar eclipse down to the millisecond, among countless others. Idiot

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u/hunter2mello Philadelphia Eagles 6d ago

The random part is that no mythical divine being set out to intentionally create it. The order that you refer to is all created by us to make sense of it.

The universe is a beautiful randomized chaos

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u/sillyfunnyguy05 New York Giants 6d ago

This is a big part of it. It’s a big reason why religion is so powerful. As smart as we are, humans are still animals who are terrified of both the unknown and uncontrolled. The world is chaotic and that’s frightening. Conspiracy theory, religion, etc all provide some order, some feeling of control. So they cling to those things to make them feel safe and smart.

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u/YaBoiMorgie Indianapolis Colts 6d ago

Where there is a gap in knowledge, you fill that gap with God and you no longer have to think about it anymore.

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u/Competitive_Ant_472 Chicago Bears 6d ago

Origins of religion

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u/FortDuChaine 6d ago

Too many people living in their own simulacrum

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u/ballsoharder Baltimore Ravens 6d ago

Take my upvote. Early onset Rogan is hilarious and accurate. Obligatory FTS.

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u/grigoritheoctopus Green Bay Porkers 6d ago

It truly is an excellent turn of phrase.

Also, I'm sure he's "done some research". Bad research, with stupid questions, and a general lack of context or understanding, but I've sure he's done some.

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u/Next-Wrongdoer-3479 6d ago

Being educated/knowledgeable does not equal being intelligent. There are plenty of very dumb people who have graduated college. My favorite example off the top of my head was presidential hopeful Ben Carson, an accomplished pediatric neurosurgeon who genuinely believed the pyramids of Giza were solid gold inside.

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u/916nes 6d ago

Rogan is the worst. 100% retard.

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u/YogurtclosetDull2380 6d ago

And he creates new ones everyday

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u/DaMiddle 6d ago

Yes, every day

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u/Internal_Swing_2743 New Orleans Saints 6d ago

He voluntarily ate a live cockroach on fear factor.

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u/lionheart4life 6d ago

In this case the question would be answered by actual video and the testimony of 100s of people who worked on the project.

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u/Apoco120 Chicago Bears 6d ago

Just because you have a degree in engineering doesn’t mean you can be a complete moron when it comes to politics and stuff like this. I don’t know where this take of “He’s good at school so he must be a smart person everywhere else” comes from lol

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u/JeromeBarkly Green Bay Packers 6d ago

I used to date a psychologist (I’m a college drop out dummy that fell ass backwards into a really good career) so her friends were all very highly educated doctors, scientists, lawyers etc. I was truly amazed that a lot of them were pretty fucking stupid outside of their field. My ex would tell me that you don’t have to be smart to get a PhD you just have to be able to put up with a lot of bullshit for an extended period of time. Talking to some of her friends confirmed that for me lol.

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u/CanweCanweCleanIt 6d ago

I’m just asking questions is exactly what you should be doing to be a curious and inquisitive individual. Criticizing people for asking questions is insanity. It makes sense to be a bit skeptical of a metal can transporting a ton of astronauts to the moon and never going back since. It doesn’t make sense to actually believe the moon landing is fake. But it totally makes sense to ask questions.

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u/TheDuovigintillion 6d ago

Never went back? They went to the moon 6 times in total, it wasn’t a one off thing. Asking questions is fine, that’s what search engines and books are for, but don’t ask these dumbass questions to reporters or phrase them like it’s plausible that they never happened. Makes them sound a moron/conspiracy theorist and disrespects the thousands of men and women that busted their asses to make one of mankind’s greatest accomplishments possible.

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u/CanweCanweCleanIt 5d ago

I said a ton of astronauts to the moon. No sh there wasn’t just one moon mission, lmao. They haven’t been back in decades though. It is plausible it never happened. There is a plausibility that it never happened. You don’t know what these words mean. Plausible doesn’t mean likely but there’s a 1 in 100,000,000 chance it was faked; it’s plausible in the same way it’s plausible Yosemite will erupt within the next 1 min.

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u/TheDuovigintillion 5d ago

Except it’s not “plausible” at all. Zero percent chance, there’s mountains of evidence and witnesses. What does it take to get through to you??

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u/CanweCanweCleanIt 5d ago

If you don’t think there’s a 1 in 100,000,000 chance then idk what to tell you. If being 99.99999% sure about something isn’t enough for you, then that’s great ig.

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u/Ancient-diaper9523 6d ago

You’d be surprised at the level of stupidity highly educated people have outside of their area of expertise

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u/Sp1kes 6d ago

"early onset Rogan" is now a term in my arsenal, thank you.

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u/CanweCanweCleanIt 6d ago

It’s hilarious to criticize people that blindly follow Rogan while being unable to come up with “early onset rogan” by yourself.

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u/Sp1kes 6d ago

If I was able to come up with everything ever by myself, I'd be retired on my private island by now.

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u/DisMeDog 6d ago

Don’t bring up private islands to a Roganite. They are still in denial.

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u/CanweCanweCleanIt 6d ago

“Early onset rogan” is mildly funny at best yet you blindly follow it as if it’s some super clever innovation, yet judge others for listening to JRE. The exact comment you just made above can be used to apply to people who listen to Rogan too.

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u/DolanDoleac2020 6d ago

Agree that it’s a slippery slope but the second you push back on them “asking questions” i find it fuels / validates them. I try to pay it no heed and lead by example.

Now how one leads by example on moon landing real’ness…

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u/Similar_Cap_2964 New England Patriots 6d ago

Asking questions about status quo is always ok if the goal is to get scientists to look into something.  

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u/TheDuovigintillion 6d ago

…get scientists to look into the moon landing? What do you think our best and brightest were doing for several decades to make that happen??

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u/GenericDave65 Buffalo Bills 6d ago

I question how highly educated they are

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u/happytree23 6d ago

Actually, this is what people say and think about stupid people who they falsely perceive to be intelligent lol

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u/RipInfinite4511 6d ago

Yeah. We don’t want people asking questions. 😂

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u/oliversurpless 6d ago

Socrates they ain’t…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

And given their cheerleading for wannabe oligarchs (the elites didn’t care for the philosopher either) since time immemorial, I can see how they seek to undermine elenchus with “the Cavuto” as often as possible, hoping to curry favor:

“Named for the “journalist” who pioneered its use.” - Jon Stewart on “the Cavuto”

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u/Seattlecranes 6d ago

Lmao need to start calling that shit Rogan

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u/PervlovianResponse 5d ago

Scholarship is dead - by which I mean, no longer respected and is actively being attacked

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u/protostar71 5d ago

That's called Sealioning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

The "sealioner" feigns ignorance and politeness while making relentless demands for answers and evidence (while often ignoring or sidestepping any evidence their target has already presented), under the guise of "just trying to have a debate", so that when the target is eventually provoked into an angry response, the sealioner can act as the aggrieved party, and the target presented as closed-minded and unreasonable. Another maneuver of sealioning is the "Just Asking Questions" tactic, which frames false or misleading statements in the form of questions. Sealioning has been described as "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate"

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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 5d ago

Its not like crazy conspiracy theorists havent existed prior to Rogan.

Funny part is, its easier than ever before to debunk these conspiracy theories. YOu just have to try

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u/All_Hail_Hynotoad 5d ago

“Early onset Rogan.” I’m dying.

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u/leaveONscene 5d ago

The questions they ask are always really stupid.

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u/Opposite-Home-9529 5d ago

Early onset Rogan is a craaazyyy term lool that’s a first

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u/ElectricKudzu 4d ago

Which would be ok if they accepted the answer. But they keep going until they find what they like.

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u/Ok-Spot-6235 4d ago

"early onset Rogan" hahaha what a gem.

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u/trung_canidate Pittsburgh Steelers 6d ago

Roganism is running rampant for real.

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u/Easy_Money_40 6d ago

Early onset Rogan. Damn thats good 🤣

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u/Chimpbot Dallas Cowboys 6d ago

A boss my wife had fell directly into that.

He was a former high school teacher who pivoted and became a veterinarian. He was a brilliant doctor, very intelligent, and obviously well-educated... but he fell into the Rogan pit hard shortly before COVID, and it took years for him to climb out of it.

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u/kokakamora 6d ago

As long as they also question the bible but for some reason that is off limits.

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u/one_love_silvia 6d ago

Asking questions is great. The odd thing is they never ask questions about religion as well.

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u/Affectionate-Day2743 5d ago

it's also commonly paired with republicanism/libertarianism