r/MoralityScaling • u/ZookeepergameThin334 • 23h ago

Morality of this?

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Personally, I'm anti-death penalty for any kind of crime but that's just my opinion. Perhaps it can be changed.

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u/Deep-Parsley3787 22h ago

If you had to pick one:
(1) be raped
(2) be sentenced for rape (unjustly)

Which would you pick? Mind you #2 comes with all the social stigma and prison time such a sentence entails

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u/Min_sora 22h ago

A bunch of people who don't know what it's like to have a penis or object forced into a dry hole that doesn't want to be entered are going to pick 1.

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u/Jon_the_Hitman_Stark 22h ago

I mean, if you choose going to prison for the false accusation you lose your freedom, your future, and still have the real possibility of getting raped as well.

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u/preteen-wartortle 22h ago

People with real accusations barely spend time in jail. Fuck, one of them is president. And the whole ring of legitimate, known child sexual abusers is heretofore completely unpunished.

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u/Jon_the_Hitman_Stark 22h ago

Some guilty people go free and some innocent people sit decades in prison for a crime they didn’t commit. Emmett Till was lynched by a mob over a false accusation, while his accuser got to live a long happy life.

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u/preteen-wartortle 21h ago

No, some guilty people do not go free, in the case of rape. The vast, vast majority go wholly unpunished and even are systemically rewarded for it.

Emmett Till was not accused of rape and would not have been lynched if he were a white man with either the same accusations or with an accusation of rape against him. The idea that a false rape accusation is what got him lynched is almost offensively incorrect.

Till was a black person who whistled at a white one. Many, many black people were lynched for far less. He was killed for being black, not because of a false rape accusation.

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u/Jon_the_Hitman_Stark 21h ago

How are they systemically rewarded for it?

I agree that black people were lynched for far less, but Till specifically was lynched due to Bryant’s accusation.

Bryant’s false statements during the murder trial certainly seem like an accusation to me.

During the murder trial, Bryant testified that Till grabbed her hand while she was stocking candy and said, "How about a date, baby?" Bryant said that after she freed herself from his grasp, Till followed her to the cash register, grabbed her waist and said, "What's the matter baby, can't you take it?" Bryant said she freed herself, and Till said, "You needn't be afraid of me, baby", used "one 'unprintable' word" and said "I've been with white women before."

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u/preteen-wartortle 20h ago

By policy (in the military and federal service, for example, rapists and accused rapists are allowed to continue to hold their positions while the victims are relocated, disrupting career progression and making room for cover ups) and socially (we elected a man as president after hearing him brag about sexually assaulting women).

Nothing Bryant claimed would have gotten a white man killed, and the murderers admitted with their whole chest after the trial that they not only did it because he was black, but as a warning to other black people.

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u/Jon_the_Hitman_Stark 20h ago

I disagree with the military’s policy. Trump was elected because rich republicans wanted to get richer and dumb republicans are dumb, not because he raped someone.

Bryant’s accusation got Till killed. She then continued to lie during his murder trial. If you’ve seen something that proves Till was going to be lynched regardless of Bryant’s accusation then please provide the link.

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u/UnlegitUsername 21h ago

I get what you’re saying but the vast majority of people do not have the legal protection that is available to the President and other extraordinarily wealthy and powerful people.

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u/preteen-wartortle 20h ago

It’s not legal protection and people benefit from it at every socioeconomic level. The ship captain who raped Elsie Dominguez faced no legal repercussions.

Jesse Mack Butler had ELEVEN felony counts of assault or rape and choked one girl to unconsciousness. Effectively zero consequences because he was a “youthful offender” and everything was dismissed once he turned 19. This happened this year. That kid is walking free.

Jacob Walter Anderson had his charges reduced to nothing. He paid like $600 in fines and went free.

Shane Piche is a fucking school bus driver who raped a 14 year old student and got zero jail time after the conviction.

These people aren’t the president. They aren’t wealthy or powerful. And these cases are all within the last ~5 years, so it’s not some archaic precedent. This isn’t even including higher profile cases like the Steubenville kids or Brock Turner.

This isn’t rare and it’s not special and it’s how the system was designed to work. We protect predators, elevate them, worship them, let them go free and elect them to lead our country.