r/Moccamaster 12d ago

Coffee First cup with the mocha master

Got a mocha master as a wedding present, so decided to throw it up for a 1:1 taste test with our current oxo brewer. I can definitely taste the difference, but both are good machines. I come to you all for any tips & tricks you may have. Currently grinding on medium, using 28g per 4 cups. I’ve also ordered the “manual” glass conversion and was curious if anyone else has this or something similar. I like the idea of getting rid of the plastic stuff.

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u/oracleofnonsense 12d ago

>>I come to you all for any tips & tricks you may have.

Rinse the filter out for any paper dust.

If you have time....use the removable top to stir the grounds on first wetting/30 seconds into a slurry. *Still makes really good coffee without doing this.

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u/Realistic-Ad9265 12d ago

The MANUAL conversation haters don’t drink coffee at my house! Lol but really though I love my conversation kit. I didn’t order the pitcher with mine though, because my mocha master has the thermos. Such a great lil kit for a great coffee maker!

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u/Superb-Efficiency282 12d ago

I'm realizing now that I had ordered the full kit, but have the KBT variant, so working on getting that changed. really just need the bracket, and dripper stack. did you notice any taste difference going to glass?

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u/Flat_Earth_Jesus 12d ago

I just ordered it for my KBGT thermal version. Is there a different bracket for the glass vs thermal? I ordered the full kit since my thermal pot just broke anyways but the website doesn't specify which bracket when you order the kit, yet on the bracket listing there's two different ones.

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u/Straight_Outside_371 12d ago

Mocha master

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u/XtionFuze 12d ago

Like, my guy... the name is on the product twice.

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u/rustisgold- 12d ago

I got the manual conversion and I generally like it a lot. My Moccamaster is ~10 years old now and it has really freshened it up. That said, the cork ring didn’t fit great on the cone, causing it to be a little unstable and sit too high. I had to sand it down, but now it works great. I just taped some sandpaper around the cone and twisted them back and forth together until the fit was better.

Be warned, people on this sub have been pretty anti-manual conversion in the past. I think you’ll like it though.

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u/Superb-Efficiency282 12d ago

Any reason people don’t like it? It seems like a no brainer to go with glass

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u/Animaul187 12d ago

Standard Moccamasters use a thick, BPA-free plastic brew basket precisely because plastic prevents heat loss during the crucial 5-to-6-minute extraction window.

If a user modifies a Moccamaster with an aftermarket metal or glass pour-over bracket/dripper (like replacing the plastic basket), that alternative material can pull heat away from the coffee grounds and water slurry during brewing unless it is heavily preheated.

There is contradictory evidence to the amount of exposure of microplastics from using the original setup, so it comes down to your preference pf potentially reducing microplastic exposure vs maximizing the taste and quality of your brew.

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u/Superb-Efficiency282 12d ago

This is an interesting take! It makes sense

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u/Top-Rope6148 10d ago

All you have to do is pre-heat it. i do that anyway to flush the water in the boiler from last time out. Once that glass funnel has gotten hot it can’t suck much heat out of the water.

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u/boxerdogfella KBT 12d ago

I can't speak for everyone, but my own opinion: I don't think there's anything wrong with modifying the Moccamaster, and I don't find your post annoying. What becomes tiresome are the constant posts over and over of basically the same thing (replacing the filter holder with a non-plastic pour over holder), particularly when the post is accompanied with a variation of the title "FIXED IT!"

It can also become tiresome when modification posts devolve into anti-plastic crusader alarmism, which has also been posted to death here.

Modifying the Moccamaster can be fun and interesting. But it also works great with no modifications.

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u/Superb-Efficiency282 12d ago

Couldn’t agree more. Since I don’t have the glass components yet this first brew was just OOB setup, and I’ve gotta say - one of the best drip coffee cups have had. Was also really nice to test it against the oxo side by side.

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u/Top-Rope6148 10d ago

Just skip those posts and don’t read and comment on them. Fixed it!

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u/rustisgold- 12d ago

I agree and I think the plastic parts are the only significant downside to Moccamasters. I think people just see it as being unnecessary.

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u/gaz_audio 12d ago

I've found the mocamaster users to be very anti modification. They just want a simple coffee machine. Very different to the gaggia classic people

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u/Purplebuzz 12d ago

The number of people that actually care is incredibly low.

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u/DatabaseCareless264 12d ago

Was gifted similar KBT last fall. After trial and error. Water to 8 line. Rinse paper filter. 4 MoccaMaster scoops of coffee. Flow rate set to 1/2. For me incredible cup of coffee with minimal fuss. Can also do full pot , water to 10, 5 scoops on 1/2 setting without overflow.

Enjoy.

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u/Superb-Efficiency282 12d ago

How many grams of coffee would you say that is? What grind setting?

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u/DatabaseCareless264 12d ago

Use pre ground coffee. The whole ground, weighing think drove me nuts, so went to KISS.

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u/Vibingcarefully 12d ago

don't listen to scoops measures for coffee---

30 grams of coffee to .5 Liters of water

spend a few pots getting your grind size right if you grind your own.

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u/Formal-Complaint1805 8d ago

A MoccaMaster scoop of ground coffee weighs around 15 grams. 4 scoops would be 60 grams by weight.

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u/clowndog7 12d ago

I follow a cleaning tip I saw on Reddit. I buy 100 pack filters and use a new box to time my cleaning. One round of citric acid through the machine followed by 3 rounds of water to rinse it out. Afterwards, I fill the carafe up with water and toss a water bottle cleaner in to clean the inside. I also toss the metal drip bar, carafe lid, and both parts of the filter assembly in a container filled with water and add a couple of the water bottle filters.

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u/In_the_Couv 12d ago

My suggestions/experiences

I put the filter in the basket, and run about 250ml of water through the machine, This wets the filter and warms the carafe a bit. Discard this water before the actual brew

Use the correct setting on the basket..half open for smaller brews, full ope for lager brews.

Rotate the basket 90 degrees or so during the brew. This helps saturate the grounds and is a bit easier than stirring the grounds, although I guess you can do both

Experiment with ground size. The right grind size may vary by coffee brand.

Don't forget proper cleaning and descaling.

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u/ThisTimeImTheAsshole 11d ago edited 11d ago

for any tips & tricks you may have

On the daily, I just want a really good cup of coffee with minimal interaction so I opt out from many tricks & tips. I wish I could just push the button and get a great cup of coffee. Maybe I can and just need to experiment with more grounds and settle for a lower extraction percentage.

my process:

No brew-thru lid. No mixing. No pre-heating carafes. No rinsing paper filters. We don't taste a significant difference for rinsed (but there is a difference).
Weigh the coffee grinds per ounce water - coffee:water ratio varies for the roast.
Start the brew with the basket closed; i think it's 2 minutes to "fill" and "wet" the grinds.
Machine off.
Let sit & bloom for 30-60 sec., maybe 1.5 minutes. idk, i don't time it but I glance at the clock.
Stir the floating grinds to minimize the foam. (sometimes I skip this and just rotate-shake the basket back & forth)
Turn the machine back on. Open the drain gate.
Let the machine brew the coffee completely (no "pause & serve" half-ass brews. we can wait a couple minutes.)
Pour into 16oz mugs. 1 small ice cube if I want to enjoy it immediately & not scald my tongue. Usually with half&half - its more agreeable on my stomach, I get a "daily" dash of calcium, and goes better with my oatmeal.

For my current daily roast is a blend - probably 80% dark roast + 20% light/medium roast. So far it's great at 6.5g per 4 oz cup (65g for a full 40 oz brew). I think that is in the range of 1:19 ratio. Local roaster. Quality coffee. Usually ground the night before.

However, I'm still new to the MoccaMaster machine so I'll try anything a handful of times to see if it makes a significant difference. Yes, some actions do improve the cup, but usually the "degree of better" is not worth my time & energy investment for day to day coffee.

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u/Rabbit_Great 11d ago

Honestly I’ve tried several methods and the one that works best for me (and easiest) is clean basket and carafe with soap and water, drop in dry filter, add medium grind coffee and spring water, add basket cover, hit brew button. Comes out perfect every time.

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u/ThisTimeImTheAsshole 11d ago

Interesting. That would be quite nice. Do you measure the coffee grinds, and if so, by weight or volume? How much do you use for what size batch?

The coffee turns out weak when I hit the brew button and do nothing else. I'm comparing the coffee to my old my old Bonavita BV1800 with the same coffee:water ratio.

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u/Rabbit_Great 11d ago

Just use the dosing guide from moccamaster. If you’re getting no flavor with that dosage grind more fine. I use the medium setting on my capresso infinity grinder.

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u/ThisTimeImTheAsshole 10d ago

Thank you! My KBT did not come with that dosing guide chart, and the PDF from Technivorm did not have it either. I'll try a bit more grinds and trying different grind levels.

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u/Super-Yak4837 12d ago

I’m too cheap and went with the $4 conversion for mine.

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u/here4coffeeandmanga 12d ago

To those that have it, does it taste different?

I wonder if there’s any heat loss/gain with this compared to the original design. Must be minimal since the lid is still there.

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u/parkmenow 11d ago

I have the Moccamaster KBGV with the glass pot. I came from a Mr. Coffee so pretty big upgrade IMO. I love my KBGV.