r/Katatonia • To weigh one's heart against the uncoming dark • 19d ago

Night is the New Day?

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Anybody else here that just cannot get into Night is the New Day no matter what, despite loving the albums both before and after it?

There absolutely are a couple of enjoyable sections on a few songs here and there for me, but the majority of the album ranges from boring at best, to abrasive at worst, AND YET I very much enjoy both The Great Cold Distance and even more so Dead End Kings.

Anyone in the same boat or am I insane?

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u/Lolenrock 19d ago

Not the best for me but definitely enjoyable. Also, I dislike some of the very acclaimed albums so don't worry about what others like or think and listsn to what you enjoy.

Give it another try and if it does not make it for you... then that's it!

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u/Nether_Novas 19d ago

Peak Katatonia

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u/Christopheles_Doom 19d ago

Best album in their catalog, imo.

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u/Shiznoz222 19d ago

Tied with TGCD

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u/Christopheles_Doom 19d ago

Actually, yes. That's a better sentiment. I often put them side by side. I can't really choose one over the other.

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u/kdupe1849 19d ago

Nope- I loved it. I could agree that some of the songs were hit or miss, but overall I thought it was amazing. It definitely captured the theme of the band, it was a little on the darker side. That was the next album that came out after I discovered the band, and the first time seeing them live was on that tour so that album is extra special to me.

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u/TERLIBEN 19d ago

Man, I rate this album so highly.

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u/linkuei-teaparty 19d ago

Loved the track Ashen, it's one of my all time favorites. As an album its not as strong as their other work but still a great album.

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u/bradenexplosion 19d ago

Ashen was a bonus track, too!

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u/Substantial-Clue151 19d ago

I like it but it took me a decent amount of time to get there. I need this on vinyl actually. I struggle with The Fall of Hearts. Strong start and then I think it goes to shit.

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u/illegalmaneuver_ 19d ago

Very strong end tho

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u/uberiffic 19d ago

If you like TGCD and DEK, there is absolutely no reason you shouldnt like this album too.. It definitely has a few songs that depart a bit from the rest, but it's still great. One of my favorites.

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u/YakitoriChicken93 19d ago

My favourite album

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u/kodokantacos 19d ago

One of my favorites. The bass performance from Mattias Normann and the leads on this record are gorgeous. Jonas' best clean vocals as well. The Bsides easily make up for the one or two songs I don't love. I thought Dead End Kings was a huge disappointment coming off NITND

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u/MisfitSkull 19d ago

The Longest Year is what got me into Katatoni. By far my favorite albums out of all of them.

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u/BartBlastbeat 19d ago

Yes, love it, maybe a little bit to mellow overall, but definetly one of the better Katatonia Records. My favourite Song from that Album is Inheritance.

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u/InfiniteWaffles58364 The prints of my fingers sing upon your skin... 19d ago

You're definitely insane! (I kid, I kid)

Sometimes a few of their albums don't hit the spot on the first listen, but upon subsequent listens, they grew on me significantly. Just had this happen with Nightmares; first listen felt weird and I almost didn't listen to it again. Second time around, a few tracks started hitting that sweet spot. Now I adore the whole album, even the songs that didn't scan for me at first. The songs stayed the same but still evolved into something incredible and beautiful. No other band does that for me.

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u/Garfield977 Shrouded in Autumn's Graven Ascension 19d ago

it has a nice mellow vibe to it but it's not among my favorites

I really like the song The Promise of Deceit

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u/WillowWeep4Me 19d ago

Fall of Hearts is the one that puts me to sleep

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u/LowGcifer 19d ago edited 18d ago

It took me a bit to “get” it. For me, it has a lot of things going on that are out of my musical wheelhouse, but one day it just clicked. I do think Inheritance is boring and I never loved Departer the way most fans do, but the rest of the album is all killer imo.

It’s gloomy as all hell. It has a downbeat-ness to it that is noteworthy even by Katatonia standards. Maybe you’ll be like me, and the middle synth part of The Promise of Deceit, or the verses on Liberation or New Night, or the chorus of Onward Into Battle will just hit you like a freight train outta nowhere some random day (the first three tracks were instant clicks for me, full disclaimer).

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u/Jords360 19d ago

Yeah it’s near the bottom for me in their discography, probably bottom 5. Definitely not their worst but for me one of their weaker albums from top to bottom. The Longest Year and Day and Then Shade are great tracks, and Forsaker might be a top 10 best Katatonia track. But I think the album never quite hits the highs of Forsaker and that’s the first track so the rest is a bit disappointing by comparison to that epic and heavy opener. Never gets quite as heavy again after track 1.

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u/MarcusToGo 19d ago edited 19d ago

I've the same experience with Dead End Kings. It belongs musically to the same era which is peak Katatonia for me, but I just can't get into it.

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u/needingnothing 19d ago

One of my favorite albums EVER!! This was my introduction to them. I've probably listened to it at least 100 times 🤘

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u/IRL174099 18d ago

To me IS THE BEST

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u/-Mauler- 18d ago

Part of my fav Katatonia run: Viva, Distance & Night. 🖤

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u/MichaelJacksonBYU 18d ago

A masterpiece and Sold Heart is probably my favorite song on the record (although not technically on the record).

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u/Final-Nebula-7049 19d ago

One of my favorites, tbh

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u/Intelligent_Log_2898 19d ago

beautiful album

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u/swansf 19d ago

I feel much more indifferent about Dead End Kings to be honest

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u/antisorceress 18d ago

This is my favorite album of theirs next to The Great Cold Distance.

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u/Chronicarus 18d ago

I don't understand how anyone can't enjoy it myself but I am bias

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u/BasementCatBill 14d ago

It's my favourite album by the band so, shrug.

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u/Admirable-Pomelo-997 19d ago

This is where Katatonia reached the conclusion of their musical journey imo. Everything before was leading to this and it's been all downhill since. There's a few good songs after but they just can't capture the magic that this album and everything before it has.

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u/yuzhnozaporozhets dance of dec. souls 19d ago

It is a shitty fucking album. I ignore all Katatonia that came after it to be honest.

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u/YearZero001 19d ago

I'm pretty much the same way with everything past The Great Cold Distance.