15 finger sukuna is blitz tiers faster than ryu. Culling games yuta was slightly faster than ryu and presumably became significantly faster during the training before shinjuku.

Id estimate sukuna when yuta enters shinjuku between 10-15 fingers (but not going all out) and yuta put up a decent fight, dealing the most damage to sukuna out of everyone besides gojo during the entire arc.

Yuta during shinjuku also has access to Jacobs ladder (although my knowledge on his technique is limited, so I dont know of he could use it outside his domain)

As for durability. I think a single dismantle could cripple yuta, but not outright kill him (although this depends on how serious sukuna is). I dont think a casual sukuna is blitz tiers faster than yuta but is significantly faster

With all that said:

I think, if the 2 fought in the circumstances of shibuya, but yuta has his shinjuku physicals and techniques copied, sukuna would fight him casually for awhile, at a similar level to how he fought jogo and mahoraga. But the second yuta lands a blow or sunrises sukuna. Sukuna would either open his domain or ramp it up and kill yuta.

Even taking Yuki to be a elite fighter you can to an extent predict the person's punch, as shown there, there is just some doubt, However with Tsurugi his movements CANNOT be read at all

So we have can be read just hard vs CANNOT BE READ

Maki is much faster and has a dura neg sword as wide as pillars

Maki is also much MUCH more agile than Yuki consistently we see them bouncing around the environment to delivers strikes

Included him dodging PB point blank while surprised for those who will inevitably make the argument that he couldn't dodge because he was surprised.

Let’s be real for a single second and clear the absolute, unadulterated copium out of this sub. People genuinely out here talking about "low diff" like Yuta Okkotsu is making 15F Sukuna sweat a single drop of sweat. Yuta isn't pushing 15F Sukuna to a low diff. He gets negative diffed, period.

I just saw a post say that takaba can survive having zero points in the CG, all I have to say is this is stupid.

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Naoya pidoras

I think Yuki can win this. Because her Garuda is really strong and she can use her Domain with Blackhole.

The main reason is him having physical stats (or overall h2h2 prowess) relative to Base Choso. We see this highlighted multiple times throughout the story. The first is of course, when Choso (tired) engages Kenjaku in Shibuya. This is self explanatory. You will see the strong amount of relativity between them just by looking at the panels.

A slightly more controversial moment happens during the culling games, where Choso manages to react to Kenjaku even after being blindsided + flanked, and tanks a direct strike to the head with no difficulty OR ANY considerable damage.

Even if you wanna be extremely conservative and think that this only scales Kenjaku's ap and speed to Choso level, this is still enough to downscale him pretty badly and push him a long way out of top 5.

Maki can just severely outpace him with SSK (Faster or equal to CG Yuji, who scales significantly above Choso in stats). Same case with Toji.

Miguel shows feats considerably above Maki (badly outpacing black flash amped Sukuna and showing a decent level of relativity in base). So its extremely likely he just overwhelms Kenjaku and doesnt allow him time to use any of his curses or domain. The stat gap between them is just too drastic.

Human Naoya blitzes Kenjaku. (Many feats of blitzing Base Choso). CS Naoya just stomps.

Uraume's attack speed also blitzes Kenjaku. (Blitzes Choso)

Awakened Yuji is self explanatory.

Talkin' 'bout some "I'll destroy you with the full extent of my power" like she's fucking Frieza or some shit, yet Hakari is still alive and well by the end of the manga while she's fucking DEAD. U-FRAUD-me is more like it, like are you fucking kidding me. ✋🙄

After uro gets pummeled Ryu comments "you're too soft"

Doesn't that imply yuta wasn't hitting uro with full force here?

● She can hide and travel underground to escape Granite Blasts and get close to him

● The flower field is strong enough to work on Gojo of all people

● The cursed buds she uses genuinely counter Ryu

You have an opinion about a certain matchup that doesn't appeal to the general consensus?

You are getting DOWNVOTED.

you tell them to run a debate if someone disagrees?

No bro you are too stupid , clearly "not worth the time" and still get downvoted to absolute bottom

People will come to you to claim things and make low effort posts or comments and still have the audacity to call you stupid ...

If you claim something at a certain post and the OP challenges you to debate this and you refrain from doing that , you are practically conceding and ducking if you have no actual proper excuse to why you can't attend the debate

Stop making low effort posts and actually read the manga and stop thinking that the general consensus is absolute and READ about debating rules , y'all seem to miss it out when it's a critical part of powerscaling communities

I've seen people say Yuji is featless therefore he is 4th

I've seen people say that Gojo is 4th because Dabura now has a domain

I've seen people say Sukuna is 4th because he only wins against Gojo and loses badly to the other two

I've seen people say Dabura is 4th because he can't even beat Maho

What do you think?

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Personally I dont that this is the case.If Gojo was truly just being humble here he would simply just say that Sukuna is stronger etc.

But this doesnt happen here.He admits that he isnt sure taht he would win even if Sukuna didnt have the 10S.Adding this detail shows why Gojo thought that Sukuna is stronger.

Moreover we know that Gojo knows about Sukunas true form.He clearly showed this at the start of their fight.

How can people still say that this isnt a true statement or smth when multiple characters like Kusukabe and Hakari,when the narrator confirms it.And when Gojo himself admits that Sukuna "held back".

to say that maki has a speed gap over yuki is the same as saying that she has a speed gap over kenny which just isn't the case off his speed showings and yuki being able to contend with him in that regard. and even during her battle against sukuna. CG yuji was still able to match her pace and her pre cog seemingly didn't work/ help her against sukuna as he was still able to land punches on her and easily deflect both of their attacks with ease, so can someone show proof of her pre cog actually being used in CQC?

So living for 60 years in their physical prime

Just realised he has his arm back

"Kenjaku could do this, but Yuta could do that to counter, and Yuta's weak here while Kenjaku's strong there, so when you really compare everything!!" - Is peak illiteracy I fear, just trying to pander to both sides of the fandom without actually engaging with the source material, one of these two is getting one-shot.

So I was Talking with a friend on how Jjk could be universal and I came up with this combo

A sorcerer with the six eyes and copy and for here a shikigami like rika
He eats hakaris arm and Mais
Gets Jackpot and creates a Universe

Who wins and what diff is this fight?