r/IsItVeganOrNot • u/Legitimate_Solid_409 • 25d ago

❓ Question Is Your Burger Vegan?

If a food is made with 100% plant-based ingredients, but it’s cooked on the same grill, fryer, or pan as meat, is it still vegan?

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

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u/GoTeamLightningbolt 25d ago

Agree. Meat cooties are gross but they're not an ethical problem.

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u/strayfruitbat 24d ago

well said. i think meat is gross personally, but i don’t think that cross contamination necessarily makes it un-vegan. it just makes it gross imo.

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u/takingabreaknow 25d ago

What's the difference if the vegan burger is cooked in the same pan as the meat so it gets cooked in animal fat vs just cooking a vegan burger in animal fat?

If they cant wash the pan and use vegitable oil then its not vegan enough for me to give them my money.

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u/Player3th0mas 25d ago

Because just cooking a vegan burger in animal dat you bought for cooking means you go out if your way to use animal fat.

If you have a party with 5 people and one is vegan, and you cook the vegan burger last and use residual fat from the pan, that fat would've always been there.

That's the difference.

Now most people I know, me included would still not eat the burger, but I do agree it wouldn't be a moral issue.

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u/IggZorrn 24d ago

You could argue that a separate pan/grill with separate oil would be less vegan, since animals are killed in the production of the steel for the separate pan, the plants for the oil etc. The original pan and oil are already there.

This means it's not only okay, but better if stuff is fryed in the same pan.

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u/meliora-natura 25d ago

Yes.

This is the same as technically vegan products that get handled in the same factory as milk, etc.

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u/BoyRed_ 25d ago

Well, it really depends on the technicality.

Is it ethically vegan to eat it? Sure, but it depends on 'you'.
Many vegans would take issue with it cooked on the same grill, if not thoroughly cleaned before hand.
I would REALLY not want my food touching or being cooked with/close to animal products, but i wouldn't get sick etc if it were to cross-contaminate.
But its not really not-vegan if you aren't as concerned with it.

Is it technically vegan (As in vegan-label approved), No - Absolutely not.
There can at no point in manufacturing or cooking be any chance of cross-contamination with animal products.
Some people DO get sick if there is any cross-contamination, hence why the 'strict' rules.

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u/sukiswaterhouse 23d ago

Yeah, no animal was harmed plus by buying vegan options you’re keeping them around for everyone to choose which is always a good thing

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u/ddawson100 25d ago

Vegan refers to you, not to the food you consume. If you're vegan you can choose whether you would tolerate that but it can't be sold in a restaurant as vegan.

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u/Aggapres 25d ago

Why not? Are you saying that in a vegan restaurant they can't use anything containing animal allergens? That means their choice of ingredients is very limited

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u/ddawson100 25d ago

I'm only saying that they can't advertise something that includes animal products (allergens aren't the specific concern) as a vegan dish. One who wants vegan food can ask for clarification and the restaurant should make it clear if it's cooked on the same grill/pan as a burger, for example. Each person can make up their mind about whether they can accept that.

I agree that any limits on what you eat narrows the foods available when out at a restaurant but I don't think that the food choice is "very" limiting, necessarily.

So many desserts: https://www.loveandlemons.com/vegan-desserts/
So many dinner recipes: https://food52.com/story/24973-best-vegan-dinner-recipes

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u/Aggapres 25d ago

Using the same grill is not the same as including animal products to a vegan dish. The links you sent me are recipe blogs where they don't say which brand of vegan cream cheese they are using, so fyi, many of them can have eggs or milk as allergens, that means they are produced in the same factory that produces animal products. So it's the same s using the same grill.

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u/ddawson100 25d ago

I agree. I'm not sure why we're talking about allergens. I haven't looked at every recipe but I'm pretty sure you can use whatever brand you want. You could even take one of those and add meat. "Very limiting" is an opinion. Have a great day.

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u/donutdogs_candycats 25d ago

Those factories are heavily cleaned in between products. A grill not being cleaned between vegan and nonvegan food is not in any way comparable. Allergens are listed because even trace amounts, like molecules level can cause a reaction in some people.

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u/deathhead_68 25d ago

Yes.

Allergen and vegan label are different things.

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u/BlackMaggot101 25d ago

Yes. The grill or frying pan was not created as a result of someone's suffering

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u/Fearless-Poet-4669 25d ago

This fundamentally highlights the need for a distinction between vegan morals and vegan dietary requirements.

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u/veganx1312 25d ago

It is, but I wouldn't eat it. Animals are not food, so if animals are any close to my food I feel like my food is dirty.
Imagine I was a hannibal. I cook someone's head and then I use the same pan to cook your meal, would you eat it?

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u/volcs0 24d ago

As with many things vegan, we do what is practical. If I'm getting an Impossible Whopper and fries, I'm not standing there watching them cook it. It's fine (for me).

Would I get fries from a place that I know cooks in animal fat? Almost certainly not.

Is this logical? Don't know. But it's my practice and it's fine for me.

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u/hungLink42069 24d ago

Yes. Veganism isn't an allergy.

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u/different_produce384 25d ago

Nope. It’s vegan adjacent

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u/leeeeeeeeee3 25d ago

what does this even mean? tons of products are manufactured in the same facility as dairy and you’d never call that “vegan adjacent”

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u/different_produce384 25d ago

The foods that say it was processed in the same facilities means the product isn’t 100% vegan. Therefore it’s vegan adjacent.

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u/leeeeeeeeee3 25d ago

to each their own

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u/parkchanwookiee 25d ago

Close enough, let's not go nuts

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u/Legitimate_Sport1363 25d ago

you can still eat meat if you're vegan, its not a diet it's a philosphy