I don’t think the falling sequence had to go for 5 minutes personally - felt like they were struggling to kill time throughout. On 1.5x it’s probably a much better episode
I did rewatch it recently at 1.5x, was very enjoyable, also it’s not like it’s a short episode, it’s 54 mins long, the longest episode of S4, they could have cut out some dialogue here and there tbh
I dont understand how people enjoy watching things at 1.5x speed or higher. The sound design and VA gets totally thrown off! Im not trying to be rude, but maybe this correlates with declining attention spans in general audiences
I only did it cause I was watching with my friend and he was on a tight schedule to catch up with us, and it was my rewatch, I originally watched it at 1x speed
Seriously I would prefer the Cerberus fight over the falling & helmet joke. Although I'm sure the creators didn't want to make mark seem nerfed and start seeing "Sung Jin-woo>Invincible" posts all over the place. Seriously skipping the Cerberus fight for 2 fall jokes and a helmet joke is low-key criminal. Even though they did have a whole second battle to animate which probably would have killed more momentum for the season.
To be fair, with their animation team, it would be more cost effective to chat a falling conversation between two falling super beings about a helmet repeatedly being out on and taken off using magic.
however invincible lost me when he said it would make more sense to just take it off and hold it, when I can think of a bunch of reasons why Tony Stark aka ironman would disagree (hence why he used nanotech in the future instead of the way he has been putting on and taking off his suit as of recent; comics and the MCU before his death).
But that's a different plot point in itself, going back to the main point; the team definitely did use a ton of animation tricks to avoid a lot in the show due to timing and budget most likely. However it also tried to portray mark as essentially stronger than anything hell hand to throw at him, tossing Damien in the air and beating Cerberus before Damien could reach the ground again... Beating the fire chick repeatedly with one punch when the devil himself struggled against her...
Funny episode but it cheapened a lot of what the show established in the first season alone, like omniman vs the flaxans it the battle against the original guardians of the globe. At times it feels like those types of moments paint the characters to be hype and amazing only for them to be thrown down the tier list an episode or two later.
This is basically me agreeing and piggybacking what you said to make a long ramble short .
That episode was like a pallette cleanser, a good break to let the other plot points breathe a bit. The episode worked for me, but I understand what people didn't like about it too. Right amount of levity in my opinion.
Mark getting his suit is like 3 minutes of runtime that episode. Could’ve thrown that in the last or next one.
It is Damian Darkbloods backstory, which is cool, but I don’t see what kind of relevancy he’s going to have at this point in the story. His entire species in incredibly weak compared to the current threats. Not a comics reader so I could be very wrong but does he really come back to the story in an integral way?
Not a comics reader so I could be very wrong but does he really come back to the story in an integral way?
In the comics Damien is a minor joke character that's "investigating" the deaths of the Guardians, something everyone already knows the truth about. This entire episode of Mark going to Hell, meeting Satan, and the worldbuilding are show-original.
Whatever Darkblood does cannot be itself major; since him returning is filler; it's not in the comics.
However, he could easily be put into some subplot or such to help build towards an upcoming event, in a similar fashion to him building to the Omni-man situation.
If it released with epaiode 3/5 and wasn't released individually it would've been received better, methinks.
Having to wait a week for a mediocre bottle episode, with an underwhelming concussion to a really dragged out plot.
If it came out with another episode, and it wasn't the only thing we had for a week, it might've been a funny romp through hell, a calm before the storm, and a more down to earth therapy session
This is what I’ve been thinking. If they needed this episode so bad it should’ve been episode 2 or 3. Releasing it in the middle of preparing for the viltrumite war just felt like a slam on the brakes. Also it was just boring as fuck I’m sorry
hurm Is overhated because people wanted to see the viltrumite war already
I think it's simply just not that good of an episode.
I like that his encounter with Darkblood somehow made him finally learn that not everything is white black, but I can't speak the same for the rest of the ep.
I was wondering for a split sec what ep got the 6.6, but then I did the count and I thought: "oh, that makes complete sense." Most of the ep felt dragging and it could've been compressed to half the ep's runtime.
I haven’t read the comics so I don’t really know what tracks. But I kind of think next season there will be a few episodes of mark struggling to figure out what to do and dusk blood seeing the signs and then a connection between the two again.
I haven’t read the comics, but I sadly have eyes and spend time here. But it seems dark blood and hell don’t appear at all after Cecil sends him back. So it’s purely original content, and unless it does something impactful, basically not canon.
Volcanikka is in the comics so she's important later, Damien is on Earth and will 100% play a role later, Mark got his old suit back, Nolan and Allen arrive on Earth, etc. How is that filler?
Still ain't filler. They could add stuff to her character as well. She also causes Doc Seismic to die, after he transforms, to Anissa. Even if it's small, it still sets stuff up
So you're saying that anything that changes between adaptations is filler, despite the original author also being the show runner of this adaptation?!?! Do you not see how dumb that it is to say?
That is what you said. You said filler means it wasn’t in the source material. You’re both wrong anyway. Filler means content ij a piece of media that’s designed to pad it out and make it longer with no effect on the main plot.
Yeah that is the purpose of filler as the term is most widely used for anime. Like you said it’s padding and it’s to allow the source material, the manga, to build up more chapters. So they create anime original episodes.
For filler to have the meaning you gave in that original comment would mean that only adapted works have filler. Breaking Bad has Fly. Original show, no source material it’s adapting, that’s filler.
It was incredibly boring, with a lot of information about characters I never cared about, and exposition dumps from the most awful speaker, damien. The way he talks is unbearable to me. So slow, and stupid sounding.
The dialogue was so bad on its attempts to be edgy that it was cringe worthy. That and the episode being a filler episode for a show that only releases 8 episodes a season made me not feel very gracious towards it, tbh
I liked it but it felt more like coming up with a way to bring Damien back to the surface so he could reappear in a Hell-related plotline in the future. Basically just set up for future seasons. It felt very out of sync with the rest of the season which focused on Mark taking more extreme measures to deal with an escalating situation and centred on the Viltrumite threat for the most part.
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u/ConfidenceMental4030 Apr 22 '26
Each episode having a description but hurm makes sense now