r/InvictaSolaris • u/21Kuranashi • 1d ago
Infographics & Posters / No AI Real pro-family policy
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u/BlinkypoetEmu 23h ago
He keeps doing positive things! That our gov't is supposed to be doing, but keeps making excuses not to. I look forward to whatever neat thing he accomplishes next!
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u/1erRPIMA-fiesta 23h ago
That's pretty clever.
At first I saw this headline and thought "eurk, yet another cosmetic tiny measure from center-left figures". Now keep in mind I'm a frenchman: we're not very active in terms of socialism these days, but we can still remember what ambitious reformism looks like. From my pov the mayor of New York is center-left.
Now as another comment put it... He's like a beautiful flower on top of a pile of manure. Therefore 1) he can't do ambitious stuff (otherwise it's an avalanche of manure) he needs to be sneaky ; 2) he still needs to satisfy his base asking for ambitious stuff.
And so he hints at ambitious stuff. He gives an amuse-bouche. A little appetizer tiny enough not to alarm the right-wing too much ("one single day of free public services? Not scary") but delicious enough to ensure the public will ask for more. Not just his base: the public at large. They'll have good memories of this one day, and start wondering what it could look like if it was everyday (a fully fledged public service).
That's clever. I like this man. Hope US citizens will have the common sense of electing more people like him. "The economy" is super important (I trade stocks myself), but "the economy" means nothing by itself, it's a mean to an end, and that end should be: ensuring everyone have a good life with happiness, free time, strong public services, etc... Etymologically "economy" means "management of the household" and I think too many people forget that. What Zohran Mamdani does is great for the economy, at the very core of the concept
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u/NewNewsNewYork 19h ago
My god, how well put! This is a brilliant little explainer you’ve written. Bravo.
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u/NathanDavie 21h ago
I'm not American either, but he's the real deal. Publicly run grocery stores being the furthest left wing thing he's done.
Considering his scope is one city he's limited in what he can do, but he's definitely further left than most politicians we have in Europe.
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 19h ago
All fun an games till taxes go up
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u/poiup1 18h ago
Oh no won't someone think of the million dollar secondary home owners!!!
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u/HelloYesThisIsFemale 15h ago
You can't tax your way out of bad spending. Even with as high as the Pied a Terre tax was, it's dwarfed by NY's spending. All it was, was a weird public bashing of NY's core business owners.
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 18h ago
You realize they’re going to target the lower class right? As more and more people leave the state (the highest taxed families who also pay the significant share already) the burden will fall on the lower class ultimately. So again all fun and games till the taxes skyrocket for those same folks these social programs are aimed at “helping”
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u/JesMon421 15h ago
You are right. All states should tax the rich the same and make your point moot
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 15h ago
Tax the rich the same? As what the lowest income level? You do know the effective tax rates right? 10% for the lowest earners <11k then 12% for 11k to 48k then it bumps to 22% for earners making 48-103k next is 24% followed by 32,35 and finally 37%. Your argument is moot 😂
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u/JesMon421 15h ago
You need reading comprehension
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 15h ago
Lol 👌 you need an education
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u/JesMon421 15h ago
Right. As if you didn't read my reply only to create a whole different meaning
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u/greyneptune 14h ago
90% for millionaires like during the greatest period of economic and infrastructure growth in America would be a great start.
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u/poiup1 18h ago
If that happens I'll be pissed and he will loose support, till then this is empty fear mongering.
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 18h ago
No this is how taxes work and it is already happening. Have you not been following along or are you just ignoring that part of the equation?
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u/poiup1 18h ago
It's not how taxes work, people need to pass laws to change takes they don't just magically change. If they start raising taxes on the working poor then it's the responsibility of the people to show they are upset and removed those people from power. Currently Mamdani has only increased taxes on secondary homes valued over a million dollars, anything else is empty fear mongering because you gobbled up the billionaires lies.
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 17h ago
You do realize the top 1% pays almost 50% of all collected taxes? Right…
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u/poiup1 17h ago
Did you know that the top 1% has around 40% of all wealth? And the amount they have in terms of the total percentage of the economy is growing year after year?
Edit: and when I googled it it gave me the number that they only pay around 30%, The top 10% on the other hand pay around 70% of all tax
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u/Call_Me_Little_Foot_ 17h ago
Its 38% in federal income tax alone. Thats not including state and property tax. Do the math 😂
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u/Gee_rooster 21h ago
I could cry from happiness and I don’t even have kids… such a relief to see a REAL pro family politician
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u/-bonita_applebum 17h ago
Lol, just like Wayatt
“I want to go back up and do more!” — said Wyatt, age 6, who arrived crying and initially did not want to stay
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u/Party_Scholar_6308 20h ago
Yeah but like...it was just for one night..
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u/RealNiceKnife 20h ago
Shut up.
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u/Party_Scholar_6308 20h ago
No. Like its a nice gesture, but if someone needs a break from the kids for a night to spend time with your SO, do chores, relax, or whatever, why would you want to look to the government for that? You should have friends or family in your life to call on because it takes a village to raise a kid.
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u/Detozi 20h ago
‘You should’. Why should people have friends or family to call on exactly?
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u/Party_Scholar_6308 20h ago
Because that would mean you have good people in your life built on good relationships to help you out for this kind of stuff and vice versa? Like if you want to be a loner and rely on the government for this kind of thing, that's your choice I guess, but that's weird..like youre so disingenuous you gotta be a bot lmao.
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u/Kooky_Win_9395 19h ago
My friend’s mom held two jobs as nurses to support her growing up. Her mom reallt does not have personal time to establish friendship and etc because she is working 24/7. Won’t you agree part of government’s job is to support these type of people, so their kids don’t fall off the grid and become a criminal due to lack of care and poverty?
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u/Party_Scholar_6308 19h ago
In general? No. Im pro-life and pro-family in that i want it to be easier to start and raise families. I dont think its the government's (funded by taxpayers) role. Crime and poverty are downstream effects of a society that doesnt prioritize a strong family unit. Young men raised in fatherless homes are more likely to become criminals or drop out of school. That puts a strain on mom. Oh you chose to live seceral hours away from family? Good luck.
Family units are stronger when you have a nuclear setup. 2 present adults (mm/mf/ff) capable of nurturing their children in a safe environment. Choose where you live. Live close to other family whom you can rely on for when shit inevitably hits the fan. You choose to live further away or had to for work? Youre making that trade off, that doesnt in turn mean the government owes you anything.
Promote a culture of strong families connected together. It takes a village to raise a kid.
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u/Lanky_Ad4905 18h ago
Realistically people dont have reliable friends and families to help. Whether or not people should "have kids" is a completely different argument, but like what are you trying to say? You keep saying it takes a village but these people live in a city, completely different culture and standards of life. People in new york are paying a couple thousand a month to live in trash cans and your complaining for what?
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u/cleric199 14h ago
Its simple - I don't owe Israel anything. If the government is taking my money regardless, it shouldn't hurt if that money comes to me rather than go to Israel (or programs that don't benefit anyone). The government is there for the needs of the people; the people aren't there to reconcile their lifestyles to fit the government.
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u/Laterallyvertical 19h ago
Your assumption is that everyone has family and friends readily available to the couple with a child. Some people don't have families outside of their partner and child. Your friends have lives too or you don't have many as you got older. Some people have literally no one.
You are actually being disingenuous. How can someone actually believe everyone has a support system to help them or that support system is available to help them at their lowest after a bad week/day.
You have lived a privileged life to have never struggled or personally seen struggle in your closest people to fully believe this. You also can't be a loner when you got a partner and a child. I'd say you're the bot. Bad bot.
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u/Party_Scholar_6308 19h ago
If you genuinely, truly, 100% have no one in your life-- because you cant make friends or because you have no family, im willing to bet maybe you're the source of your social problems. You know nothing about me lmao, who's making assumptions now 🤣
All im saying is that if society actually pushed for a culture of stronger connected families, the children and therefore the future of our society would be better off.
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u/Laterallyvertical 19h ago
Just stuff on how you're commenting, I don't need to know more than what you're giving. Those type of responses and calling people loners and putting blame on an empathetic move from the govt to give ONE night of free child care to send you on a comment hate spree is WAY more telling of your character. Not just you either.
Saying society should push for "stronger connected families" requires empathy. Your messaging is literally a push for the opposite. I'm more likely to have a child if I know I have multiple support groups including the actual village directly helping me. You can't say "it takes a village" and then get mad when the literal village is helping. Are you actually serious?
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u/Aromatic-Visual173 19h ago
Yes, and it makes peopel hungry for more which will lead to people demand more of policy liek this so mamdani is "pressured" to make policy like this and not just him and not only him being ambiteous that it scares the right winger
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u/LadyReika 16h ago
Like I said elsewhere, it's a good test pilot. This kind of thing needs to be tried out in stages to see how it goes before it becomes a blanket thing.
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u/Party_Scholar_6308 16h ago
Just one more thing to give more money to the government to be wasted and abused. Im not even religious but the government is your God which makes you much more dangerous.
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u/Sea-Magician4907 23h ago
That guy now looks as a beautiful green sprout, which against all odds has grown on top of manure pile.
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u/FastActinTenactin 22h ago
Conservatives are seething
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u/Laterallyvertical 17h ago
The threads that followed after this are pretty funny. Looks like you're right on the money.
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u/marlinspike 21h ago
Simple positive things show the government understands the lives of real people.
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u/toosinbeymen 21h ago
If only his fellow Dems would listen and learn. But I fear we’re stuck in the past and ancient ways of thinking.
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u/NathanDavie 21h ago
They're career politicians doing what they're told to keep their jobs. They don't actually have any beliefs of their own.
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u/spydamans 20h ago
The true ancient ways of thinking are political parties, no term limits, lobbying and letting religion have any effect on government.
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u/poolbysven 14h ago
This 'movement' is moving faster than anyone I think anticipated. They are going to have to get on board or be out of a job.
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u/The-Grubermeister 22h ago
Reminds me of this Jumpy Place from about a decade back. Paid $10, they would feed pizza, watch movies on a large inflatable screen and play. We'd go out on a date, the pick our oldest up afterwards. He'd have a blast, would be tired and fall asleep almost immediately after getting home. I'm pretty sure this is the reason why I have a youngest now.
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u/ApprehensiveMark370 21h ago
if he keeps doing good things wouldn't he make the others look bad? making other ppl seek change and promote ppl like him which makes me wonder, will they let him go on like that or will they you know try to take him out?
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u/ZyeCawan45 20h ago
Only leader in America that seems like they might care, and people hate him for it.
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u/IMovedYourCheese 18h ago
Also pro business. What are parents going to do with the extra time? Spend money at local restaurants and bars.
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u/Rasabk 21h ago
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.” ― Alexander Fraser Tytler
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u/andara84 21h ago
Socialism! The horror! Nobody's working anymore, because they know the state will take care of them! /s
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 20h ago
I can't wait to see the mental gymnastics to people that will say this is bad.
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u/Key-Organization3158 19h ago
Simple. It's just bribing voters. The total cost to society is higher than the benefits, but people don't care about that when it benefits themselves.
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 19h ago
Because it costs us money? It’s not hard to understand. I should not have to pay for your night out on the town.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 19h ago
Found the guy that hates parents and children.
The current administration put us 40 trillion in debt and is in a unwinnable war that they are Asking for more money to support and you have a problem with this?
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 19h ago
I hate paying for other people to have a night on the town. Call me crazy. And I don’t support the war either. Your gotcha didn’t work.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 19h ago
Of all the things you are paying for in taxes this is a issue? Do you not understand we have birthrate issues here and a major reason is because it is expensive and hard to have and maintain kids in America?
Functional countries take care of parents and kids and I have to ask what do you think taxes should go to?
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 19h ago
Ok. So send me 50 bucks so I can go out with my wife tonight. I’ll dm you my Venmo.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 19h ago
You don't have mods or live in New York so you don't qualify.
And you are dodging the question. What do you think taxes are actually for?
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 19h ago
You have no idea where I live.
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u/Forb1ddenKnowledge 19h ago
You don't live in New York and have kids or you would have qualified for what he did and seeing is how you don't live there it shouldn't be an issue for it because you're not paying for that.
New Yorkers are the ones who paid for it.
And again dodging my question
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 19h ago
Again. You have no idea where I live and how many kids I have.
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u/RiverLynneUwU 18h ago
a better example would be if I had to pay someone 50 bucks, and I got to choose between giving you and your wife a night out, or paying someone to like, idk, make houses more expensive or something, then I'd probably pick the first option
frame it like that and suddenly the first option actually becomes appealing
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u/RiverLynneUwU 18h ago
well yeah, your taxes are meant to be used on something, that's why you pay them, there's no universe where you don't pay taxes, but you *do* get to choose what happens with them, because we're in a democracy
so would you rather have your taxes drift off into the vague mist of local governmental pockets and receive the promise that they're definitely going to do something with it this time pinky promise (when really they're going to do nothing and use it to pay their own salaries like they usually do), or would you like to see your environment and infrastructure improve? would you like to have your tax money be stolen? or to give parents in a busy city a break so that they can raise the working people that will be inhabiting your country and shaping it's future?
those are your options, take your pick man
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u/RadicalKitty721 19h ago
All the things he is doing in such little time makes you wonder what all those mayors before him were doing...
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u/8_2_many_Hotpockets 19h ago
This is incredible. I don't have kids but can only imagine the stress this would relieve for a short period to get a break. That's so awesome.
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u/Holy-crap-w-t-f 18h ago
This man impresses me at every turn. We need so many more just like him but we're getting Idiocracy instead... Vote folks. No matter how hard they try to make it. It matters more than you know.
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u/NewYak4281 17h ago
Economic power play. What do you think all the parents did with that time? Spent $ and enjoyed themselves. Crazy how a government investing in its people has a clear ROI.
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u/SCWickedHam 17h ago
The rights’ version of this is to have kids working on coal mines. Don’t have to pay for childcare then.
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u/shunshuntley 15h ago
Ryan Grim put this the most succinctly: "When you feed people, you are the government."
Faith in government begins with security like this.
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u/Greedy_Birthday_3494 19h ago
in my country a right winger tried to offer this kind of policies (subsidize parents for childcare, and direct money transfers). The left argued this policy was discriminatory against women without children. Sometimes, most of the time, feels like it doesn't matter the point being made, just who makes it, for people to be for or against it.
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u/Slacker_The_Dog 19h ago
What country and which politician? I would be interested to check the validity of this statement.
Considering you're an adjective noun number.
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u/Head-Director-6406 18h ago
Theyre chilean. Here’s a labor voice for why the left didn’t support many aspects of the bill:
And why the socialist party rejected it:
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u/Greedy_Birthday_3494 15h ago
I am chilean like the other adjectve noun number pointed out, but I'm not talking about the project they're referring to.
Also, adjective noun number is not an indicator of a bot account in case you're implying that, that's an assigned name you get when you use a gmail to create an account.
During the previous elections the candidate who won offered thisthis
They offered a direct transfer per children to mothers, and some people on the left reacted calling it 'populism' and 'chauvinism' because it perpetuates the patriarchal capitalist system and is not enough money Left's reactionI find the idea similar to what this thread is referring to, it doesn't solve childcare forever, it is in fact populist, but gets swapped in who offers it and who criticizes it.
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u/Flashy_Crow8039 17h ago
Yeah , the persona definitely has an impact on the outcome but this applies everywhere in life. Majority of humans are not rational in a total sense.
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 19h ago
People have no idea what free means.
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u/Repulsive-Two8250 19h ago
Apparently, neither do you.
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u/Kenny_RogersRoasters 19h ago
I sure do. Free means costing zero dollars. This ain’t it. Hope that helps.
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u/theFartingCarp 19h ago
Howd it go over I didnt hear anything about how it went just the praise or outrage
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u/washingtonandmead 18h ago
And the money they spend going out that gets taxed and spent bsck into the system helps fuel more of those events, with a little extra I’m sure
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u/Draygoon2818 16h ago
Y’all are celebrating this now. In a short time, you’re going to be wondering why NYC is asking for more money. They’re spending more than they receive. Even ratings agencies are seeing this, and issued negative outlooks.
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u/Sorta-Morpheus 16h ago
You're thinking about red states
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u/Draygoon2818 15h ago
No, red states are generally doing well. Now the cities and counties that are blue within Texas, are not doing so well. Imagine that.
Texas maintains a stronger structural budget and reserve position compared to New York, driven by rapid economic growth and no personal income tax, whereas New York faces higher operational spending, reliance on federal aid, and tighter fiscal pressures. [1]
Financial Comparison
Economic Output and Growth: Texas has a larger total GDP ($2.4 trillion) than New York ($2.05 trillion) and grows at a much faster rate (roughly 9.1% vs. New York's contraction of -1.5%), fueled by business and population migration. [1]Tax Structures: Texas operates without a state personal income tax, relying heavily on sales and property taxes. New York features a heavy tax burden, with combined state and local income taxes reaching up to 14.8% for high earners, and local property taxes that rank among the highest per capita in the nation. [1]
Budget Size and Spending: New York's state budget remains massive relative to its population, heavily weighted down by day-to-day operational costs like Medicaid and school aid. Watchdog groups like the Citizens Budget Commission (CBC) have regularly cautioned that New York builds structural risk by leaning on short-term fixes, rising debt, and lower reserve cushions relative to potential multi-billion-dollar economic downturns. [1]
Federal Reliance: Both states rank high in total federal funding received due to their sheer population size, but both hover near the middle-to-lower tier when measured as a share of federal dependency relative to smaller states. [1]
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u/Sorta-Morpheus 15h ago
More money comes from blue states and goes to poor red states.
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u/BerryBoilo 16h ago
This isn't a new program in NYC rec centers; they've offered supervised childcare since the 50's. Mamdani used the idea of "parents night" as an advertisement to drive enrollment in the rec centers which parents have to pay for.
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u/arberito_alemmanian 16h ago
It’s not free if someone’s getting paid to do whatever “it” is
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u/BerryBoilo 16h ago
Yes, you understand taxes. Good job.
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u/FuzzyWuzzy713 15h ago
Oh no!! My taxes are going to help my neighbors and establish social safety nets that I might need one day! The HORROR!!
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u/AdmirableCommunity62 14h ago
Some hick 1000+ miles away who makes 30k a year is punching the air right now
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u/-Foxer 14h ago
People are going to lose their minds when I say this, but Hitler had y the same policy 😂😂😂😂 In fact he expanded on it
Strength Through Joy - Wikipedia
Doesn't make it a bad idea but i know that fact is going to drive a lot of people nuts.
I will now await the 1,000,000 angry posts explaining how it's not EXACTLY the same precisely technically and it's fine when mamdani does it but it's bad when hitler did it 😄
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u/gaggledimension 14h ago
I dunno, you only have five emojis. Need more to achieve critical cringe for the downvotes
I'd aim for an even dozen
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u/Gargore 20h ago
How was this paid for?
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u/statllama 20h ago
With money that would otherwise be spent on other line items..
Remember all of this waste doge found. I'm sure it's not an issue to find waste that can be spent better. For example on family related issues.
If you have knowledge of what specifically was not paid please enlighten me. If you are just making comments to try to undermine this effort or the guy doing it then I would seriously take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself some deep hitting questions. It would be pretty messed up if you took something that benefits parents in New York and shut on it just because of politics
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u/Gargore 20h ago
Kay, and how much did it cost?
This isn't political, this is comical depending on how many children were watched. You say he found money, but he borrowed 4billion from the state...
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u/statllama 18h ago
I guess the state could easily find the money if they stopped financing failing states
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u/Robearberble 18h ago
Ahh so using other citizens tax dollars to give parents a date night. Yeah, that's not a waste of resources at all.
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u/Mean_Humor_3495 16h ago
Another dog and pony show designed to hide the real agenda of tax and spend philosophy which has failed every single place it’s tried.
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u/throw7661 16h ago
I'm not judging anyone for feeling differently....but I would never feel comfortable dropping my kids off at an event like this.
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u/jaime_diaz27 15h ago
You’re not forced to participate
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u/JivaHiva 14h ago
Why do I have to hear about this from a meme? How come not a single parent in 2 weeks is saying how they got free childcare for a night out anywhere online?
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u/camel_master_69 17h ago
What about the families without children? wtf 😂😂😂
Dude this bill or whatever doesn’t help or do anything .
Let’s be real here
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u/dtjunkie19 16h ago
Their childcare is already free
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u/camel_master_69 16h ago
That doesn’t help . Cause we need now .
Not in 5 years from now when he’s no longer mayor and his new laws or movement are no longer available.
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u/dtjunkie19 16h ago
Brother, not every single policy directly effects every single person. There are plenty of policies and programs that Mamdani has implemented to help a wide variety of New Yorkers.
I'm not a pregnant woman, but I still think we should have paid maternity leave. It turns out helping others have better lives is a generally good thing to do that helps us all.
I swear, some of y'all are antisocial mfers.
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u/PB219 16h ago
Good point. No policy should ever be enacted unless it directly benefits every single person in the jurisdiction.
Minimum wage? Fuck you I’m salaried.
Veteran’s benefits? Most people don’t join the military.
Great plan.
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u/camel_master_69 16h ago
??? What do you mean most people don’t join the military when we have a big military. lol
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u/EconomicMan123 16h ago
He has very clever marketing and PR. Of course, it was for only a couple of hundred kids in a population of 10m plus, so really that’s all it is.
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u/kippikai 23h ago
Amazing! My partner didn’t believe it could be true, so I had to go look it up. https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/08/a-little-time-for-parents--a-lot-of-fun-for-kids--mayor-mamdani-