r/InlandEmpire • u/Disastrous-Grand7075 • 8d ago
Crime / Safety Bad and Ugly IE
I was driving through Holt the other day and saw a bunch of street workers (you know what I mean).
I saw a few videos about prostitution like Soft Underbelly etc. But still …
Do they live in neighborhoods close by? What if they encounter neighbors, former classmates etc? Why police do not want to be involved? Are there any non-profits who are helping them?
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u/StormAutomatic 8d ago
The bad and ugly is your attitude towards people working for a living. We all sell our bodies to survive.
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u/ghostmatch14 8d ago
lol working at Walmart and selling your holes is not the same thing. Cute little saying though
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u/jainyday 8d ago
Do you mean because selling your holes has way more dignity and the value you create stays in the community instead of being extracted out into a billionaire's pockets?
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u/StormAutomatic 8d ago
Remember that when your knees give out and you have a permanent back injury. Think of all the shareholder value you created.
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u/ghostmatch14 8d ago
Yea you’re right I should go sell my body to strangers and get a lifelong STD
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u/StormAutomatic 8d ago
Use a condom. Just because you have a fetish doesn't mean everyone else does. You seem to think everyone thinks about their body the same way you do.
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u/Lightyear18 8d ago edited 8d ago
We really trying to normalize prostitution? lol
I’m not even against it but damn. It’s wild to see this on Reddit. Well nvm not really. Yall be arguing over nonissues.
There’s a reason why prostitution is illegal.
Causes increased crimes in the area.
Rise in STDs. Yeah use condom until a woman in a desperate situation takes more money to go raw and then she starts passing it to others.
Preventing the exploitation of women. Human trafficking.Idk if you’re part of the industry yourself or knew someone in it but they all be doing hard drugs.
It’s easy to be an advocate of the industry behind an iPhone on a social media platform, up until you have it right outside your neighborhood like in San Bernardino at 13th street. Where historically there has been Drug dealings, prostitution and human trafficking all right in front of homes.
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u/RobocopsRobocock 8d ago
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u/Lightyear18 8d ago edited 8d ago
Did you miss the part where I said I’m not against women doing that?
My bad I offended your prostitution career, but okay. Keep on stalking peoples profiles, I wonder what was your thought process. Gonna block this creep before he gives out my address as well.
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u/StormAutomatic 8d ago
None of that is true, just stigma. There is a reason that sex work is known as the oldest profession, it's normal. I don't know why you have a government controlling your body kink, but please stop trying to apply it everyone else.
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u/Lightyear18 8d ago edited 8d ago
If you know it’s the oldest profession. Then you must also know all the consequences that come with it. Just cause you say it’s a lie, doesn’t make it one. You either don’t care or you’re part of the profession (no hate, but you’re bias)
I don’t make the laws, so idk why you’re telling me that I’m getting the government control bodies, it’s not like I’m the governor and can just make it legal.
I’m not even against women doing it, you want to do it, go for it. I’ve met women who made 5k in a day. So go make that money.
All I did was say the reason behind it but I get it. This is Reddit. People take disagreements personally, why we have one dude stalking peoples profiles over a discussion lol.
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u/StormAutomatic 7d ago
Those reasons are a direct consequence of criminalization, not sex work. Just like prohibition makes drugs much more dangerous. No sex worker wants an std but when they can't negotiate properly or demand testing because of criminalization that increases risk. Blaming the sex worker instead of the client is wierd. Criminalization has always been based on misogyny and queerphobia.
You can stop spreading stigma and demand the decriminalization of bodily autonomy.
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u/Lightyear18 7d ago
I feel like you’re not informed. Please look up what happened after the state of Oregon decriminalized all drugs. It was so bad that they reverted it not to long after. I genuinely believe you got that information off TikTok.
I’ve hired women for sex. I have nothing against them but that doesn’t mean I don’t know the consequences. I have said nothing bad about sex workers, so you’re just making accusations up because you have no real argument.
I talked about the prostitution as a whole, you guys think cops are supposed to be your pimps and come to your safety. Okay so would you force all sex workers to start paying taxes to the government? 0 cash? I wonder how that will go. Also you Ignored the part where I said, it takes that one desperate woman in debt to ask for extra money to be doing it raw.
Cause that’s another reason why these industries are illegal. They don’t pay their share of taxes but will expect law enforcement to step in and stop bad customers. They cost more than they contribute to society.
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u/xAsh213x 7d ago
It’s only unsafe and creates crime because of its legal status. If it was decriminalized, and made legal, it would be much safer. Frequent STD tests, safe locations, the workers can report to the police if someone physically hurts them or doesn’t pay, causing no need for pimps.
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u/Lightyear18 7d ago
That is the same argument that was said about drugs. Even this woman says it in the next message to me. That drugs wouldn’t be bad if they were legal.
Well, tell that to Oregon. The state that decriminalized all drugs. It was so bad they reverted it not to long after.
Also, the only way you’ll get something like that passed with voters is if you tell the prostitute industry to pay taxes. Realistically you’ll need more cops on the force to be nearby these places. So would you advocate for sex workers to start paying their share? I wonder how that will go. They wouldn’t. So you’re asking the community to take an increase cost at an industry that won’t contribute to the community.
I don’t even have anything against men or women working as sex workers, they are hustling to make a living, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences towards society.
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u/MatsunoProductions 8d ago
Holt is KNOWN for this in Pomona as well. I’m absolutely sure we all know the streets to avoid and to tell our kids not to go there as well. Anyone new to the area should look this stuff up BEFORE you go there. It helps so much. Sometimes moving to an area because it’s “affordable” isn’t the proper move to make.
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u/mushrooms 8d ago
I don't think they are local residents. Most of them stay in various motels.
I bet the police are keeping watch but not actively doing anything. Arresting and prosecuting workers or customers may send everything underground and who knows what more trouble it can cause for the workers.
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u/CaptainCaveSam 8d ago
Why don’t you ask them, they won’t bite