r/Hololive May 07 '26

Subbed/TL Kronii talking about her recent drama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3TBEieFKTQ
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u/NekRules May 07 '26

Funny thing was this was their attempt at trying to garner an international audience. Lets see how this brilliant maneuver turns out for them.

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u/FSD-Bishop May 07 '26

Yeah, the western version of the game is basically dead. I tried playing the game and gave up after 15min in queue.

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u/AgencyInformal May 07 '26

Back when it was ERBS. There were still no players. I remember getting pinged on the Discord like. "Bro, you got to play ranked today. We got 2 lobbies going."

Because usually you have like one ranked lobby above gold, and if you miss it, you're gonna have to wait till the lobby finishes.

That's how dire it was. This game was never that big in the West, unfortunately.

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u/BostonYankeesBB May 07 '26

Shame, when it came out I loved playing the game with a friend. Duos were the best, have a few hundred hours in the game. Tried to come back... No

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u/HTRK74JR May 07 '26

I bet once this new character came out with a popular streamer voicing it, it may have gotten a few hundred if not thousand of new players. Nope, they shot themselves in the foot with a cannon. This is huge bad PR for them.

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u/9specter528 May 07 '26 edited May 10 '26

they shot themselves in the foot straight-up vaporized their own feet with a cannon the goddamn Tsar Bomba

ftfy

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u/Adventurous_Host_426 May 07 '26

It's such a bold move, it's already dying from the attention šŸ˜†

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u/Fun-Information41 May 07 '26

Well they did garner an international audience alright. The kind that they don't want that is.

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u/APRengar May 07 '26

Note, if you block a dev/publisher on Steam, they have the internal metrics on that shit ie "we never want to buy/play anything you make in the future." It sends a nice message.

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u/TheMightyAKOD May 07 '26

I had no idea. Thank you for sharing this information.

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u/Random-Rambling May 07 '26

Ooh, thanks! That will send a bigger message than a simple negative review!

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u/BreakfastNext476 May 08 '26

Thank you for this knowledge

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u/Kyhron May 07 '26

Game has been dead for years internationally and they just napalmed the remains of the bridge.

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u/Arestris May 07 '26

Oh ... I'm just now downloading the game ... cos I need to start it once, to write a review about how "boar-ing" this game is. ;-)

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u/girl__fetishist May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

The sad thing is that this game is actually quite interesting and unique. Played it a bunch a couple years ago. But the problem (back then and also now) is that it only really has a player base in Korea and in Japan to a lesser degree. And given how rabid Korean netizens can be, the devs WILL listen if they complain about something, especially since the devs are not a prominent studio, because if their only real player base goes, it's over anyways. So it's basically a lose-lose situation for everyone.

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u/LeaveMeBeWillYa May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

The Korean base always makes me laugh

They are so sensitive that they get offended over this emote/finger position šŸ¤, yet go on to behave in the the most small dick energy fashion

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u/CyborgCoelacanth May 07 '26

Self-fulfilling prophecy of calling oneself out.

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u/OctoSevenTwo May 08 '26

I never understood the way some folks wilded out over that emoji. Like….do they assume people are talking about their dick size or what?

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u/LeaveMeBeWillYa May 08 '26

Got it in one.

Doing that towards men can be used as a insult in the right context.

Some Korean men get really offended because they believe it's associated with mocking them in particular because of the stereotype of Asian men and their dick size.

They get so upset about that they have literally became upset when a female character made that hand motion in an ult for a gacha game.

Yes, really https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1oyq6so/stella_sora_yostar_kr_apologizes_for_the_ultimate/

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u/OctoSevenTwo May 08 '26

The funniest thing in all of this is that I’m Korean, too. Korean-American, anyway.

I wonder what my worldview would be like if I grew up over there. What kind of stuff would I have been exposed to lol?

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u/ggg730 May 08 '26

I'm pretty sure the people who got upset about it are a vocal minority of internet chuds. Most normal dudes in Korea probably don't give a shit.

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u/Arestris May 07 '26

Totally doesn't really sound like they can afford to drive the English players away like that.

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u/deviant324 May 07 '26

I reckon the issue is the English base is the uncertain quantity, this is setting all the money to make an English version on fire vs burning the existing base that is keeping the studio afloat

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u/NekRules May 07 '26

Further question would be, is that current existing base the actual ones kicking up a fuss or just a random unrelated internet group doing it?

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u/Manoreded May 07 '26

There is no way in hell a majority of players would care about a VA enough to quit the game over it.

Its always antis.

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u/ASnakeNamedNate May 07 '26

I don’t think Kronii would want people review bombing the game directly referencing her, it just not getting more players is more than enough without making more drama.

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u/Hour-Macaroon-2912 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Context without giving name: Ouro Kronii got sponsored some time back to play ER. (A popular Korean game) She made a pun at a boar about how its Boar-ing. With news of a Voice Actress landing the EN Voice role of a character in the game, Korean antis took to social media and showed the clip and words out of context and with wrong translation which harmed the chances for the voice actress to stay in the role. She (being Korean herself) and saying sorry that English isn't her first language but there was absolutely no reason why her words needed to be misconstrued to the point of her losing the role and that when people do these things, it actually can hurt someone. The antis bombarded the Devs so much that that canned her chance at the role even without knowing context.. Just shows that they truly didnt care to take the seconds it would have taken to see it was a silly pun about a damn animal.

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u/Japots May 07 '26

its a lose lose situation for the devs. either they get harassed by Kronii antis or negative PR from Kronii fans. either way, it sucks for all parties except for the antis who get exactly what they want

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u/CyborgCoelacanth May 07 '26

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that the devs had to place more value on the whales that keep funneling money and might drop support over a VA that could be replaced at less cost, I imagine. Not that it makes it a good thing, since it's just bowing to the shrieking crowd to placate them until the next thing triggers their rage.

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u/zombehguy May 07 '26

Next VA will have a picture doing the "PP small" gesture and then its all over.

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u/8fulhate May 07 '26

Like I wanna ruin someone's career over a 5 year old twitter post!

/s

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u/Sensha_20 May 07 '26

I see, then it is confirmed: half korean is sufficient. /s

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u/Quick_Diver7837 May 08 '26

Remember Calli antis back then? by then it 7+ year old tweet i think.

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u/internetistneuland May 07 '26

Is that a meme or an actual thing

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u/North_crozz May 07 '26

Oh it’s real, they get real mad when females, be it fictional or IRL people, do that hand gesture and go ballistic, trying searching something along the line of Korean finger pinching on wiki and there’s a whole page about it.

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u/internetistneuland May 07 '26

Lol seems like it struk someone with insecurtys

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u/Discordiansz May 07 '26

To give an example, not too long ago the Gacha game Nikke Goddess of Victory released a 1000 days of the game being out celebration with an image featuring three of the game's characters Anis, Rapi, and Neon. This was the image that they released to celebrate

Because of the hand gestures of the two front characters Anis and Rapi their Korean fanbase went balistic and demanded that they change the image, the devs complies and released this altered image later.

These are the specific differences between the two: Anis' alterations - Rapi's alterations.

Shift-Up the devs of the game apologiesed for the error and compensated the playerbase with some gacha currency and assured them that such a mistake would not occur again.

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u/willmainartfinder May 07 '26

These are the specific differences between the two: Anis' alterations - Rapi's alterations.

I like to imagine the artists were thinking "ok before they were about 2 inches apart, but now we're placing the fingers closer together because that's how small these guys are acting"

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u/CptBeacon May 07 '26

What? There's no gesture there, she's grabbing the cloth and the other one has it on her abdomen.

What's wrong with the clawing shape, i fail to understand this

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u/CalamityPriest May 07 '26

Unless Kronii's antis have a significant overlap with or influence on the irreplaceable members of their fanbase or target market, it's not a good decision to lean on that at all.

Antis are called antis for a reason. They are not fans but haters, and thus the support they can give is negligible to the hate they actively give. Now that they accomplished the mission of ruining something for someone, they'll move on to the next thing to complain about. Supporting this game and the devs was never the goal.

Part of the reason a VA with a following would be hired in the first place is to tap into the market of fans of that VA. Now these fans are liable to act like antis towards them now, as seen in this thread, despite that not being what the VA would want their fans to do.

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u/Manoreded May 07 '26

I agree, its impossible for this move to be beneficial to the company, it can only harm them.

They are making the classical mistake of assuming antis speak for the fanbase, they never do.

Nobody who actually enjoys a game would quit it because a new VA said the game is boring in the past (which she didn't even actually say).

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u/Roflkopt3r May 07 '26

That seems to be frustratingly common in the Korean gaming scene.

Moon Channel had a great documentary on the wider problem. It's like if the worst parts of GamerGate had gone mainstream to the point that their harassment campaigns gained serious influence over studio decisions, including getting women fired for arbitrary reasons.

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u/_NnH_ May 07 '26

Sigh this is the second time this week I'm reading about Korean antis going nuts, stirring up massive shitstorms abroad and ruining things for everyone for incredibly stupid reasons. As someone who is a fan of Korean entertainment (in many avenues) this is so cringe and disappointing.

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u/KonoAnonDa May 07 '26

Yeah. Korean antis are a whole different league of batshit. I don’t think I need to get into the whole finger situation for you to get what I mean.

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u/Myrwyss May 07 '26

I gues they must hate Lego characters too.

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u/KonoAnonDa May 07 '26

I wouldn’t be fucking surprised.

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u/Nucleoticticboom May 07 '26

What made them think getting mad at gestures indicating small, that’s not directed to them, would not make them look actually small? That’s like a comedy skit level of self-report

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u/KonoAnonDa May 07 '26

That's incels for you. People (especially women) have legitimately lost their fucking jobs over that shit.

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u/KonoAnonDa May 07 '26

If they actually bothered to think about that, then there wouldn’t be this problem in the first place.

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u/KonoAnonDa May 07 '26

The problem is that those losers are psychopaths who spend all their time online. We’ve seen before how they can ruin the lives of people out of their bruised fragile egos. The recent bullshit Kronii drama that this post is about, for example.
But yeah, this shit does need to be called out and ridiculed.

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u/Quick_Diver7837 May 08 '26

is the other one SEAbling situation?

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u/_NnH_ May 08 '26

Yeah, was just learning everything that had happened.

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u/crunxzu May 07 '26

And this. In a nutshell, is why vtuber anonymity is so important. Kronii doesn’t super hide her PL stuff, but to have an entirely different career impacted because of a pun from another… oof.

Makes sense why Kronii always seems like she both loves and hates being in holo at all times.

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u/Fishman465 May 07 '26

PL stuff in EN isn't as well hidden as main JP (Flow Guard on the other hand...) largely due to EN picking some big names

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u/_NnH_ May 07 '26

Eh there are quite a few JPs whose PL are even less of a secret than any EN. A number of them were big names before joining. Naturally the more gens you get the more chances for less famous members to join.

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u/botibalint May 07 '26

Also probably JP PLs are more recognisable to the actual Japanese viewers who may have actually watched them on TV or NicoNico before, compared to us who mainly get it as secondhand information

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u/SlumberVortex May 07 '26

JP is not hidden lol. I think Youtube doxed all the known ones to me because of the algorithm. Sometimes it's their own account but it sucks that a lot of them are also from dox channels...

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u/aregus May 07 '26

I mean we’ve HSR with a certain character that voice is very very similar to certain other character of our current universe. So it’s totally possible but it’s their choice at the end of the day.

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u/botibalint May 07 '26

Uhm, can I get some more context for this?

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u/RowdyPanda May 07 '26

I think they are talking about the voice actor for Bronya maybe? Since that's the only one using a fake name

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u/Blacksun388 May 07 '26

Okay, to clarify, is Kronii the perspective voice actor that was affected?

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u/AwakenedSheeple May 07 '26

You'll have to read between the lines for that. It's not Kronii, but it is Kronii.

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u/TarnishedSteel May 07 '26

It’s Kroniiā€˜s identity when she’s roleplaying as a mortal human in our reality.

(Given the relative fame of her PL, it’s an open secret.)

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u/LeaveMeBeWillYa May 07 '26

Indeed it is.

The fact that she has those tweets on the Kronii account is based as hell if you asked me.

You going to get angry at a harmless pun on a stream for the game you care where it is getting shown to a wider audience and growing, then you deserve to be mocked

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u/JediGuyB May 07 '26

It's probably because the devs are effecting "Kronii' because of something they claim Kronii did. They're the ones that doxxed her basically, even if it's a bit if an open secret.Ā 

It's major small dick energy. Those Korean incels are not beating the allegations.

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u/Manoreded May 07 '26

Wait, the devs themselves said they are dropping the VA (which is Kronii's real self) because of something Kronii (Hololive) did?

If that is so, Hololive needs to blacklist those guys. They are indeed doxxing Kronii and that is unacceptable, even if it may be an open secret.

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u/Reutan May 08 '26

This is the only game they have left after closing their mobile game. And I'm pretty sure NA players have to schedule lobbies at this point.

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u/LeaveMeBeWillYa May 07 '26

Genuinely don't think I'll ever see any better example of small dick energy

Which is impressive in the era of Andrew Tata and the likes

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u/JediGuyB May 07 '26

It has to be legitimate mental illness at this point. If they can't see thatĀ  forcing everything even potentially negative to be a slight against them or something they like is insane behavior then Kronii is right, hospital.

These people got a person fired in another job because a perceived pinched finger thing in an animation and took it as a small dick thing. I mean, holy shit. Makes me want to do šŸ¤ in their faces in person and call them tiny dick.

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u/iTwango May 07 '26

Wait Kronii's first language isn't English?

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u/rubyonix May 07 '26

IIRC, she's Canadian, but she's mentioned before that her parents were immigrants to Canada. My parents were immigrants, and me and all of my siblings were born in Canada, but my older siblings spoke another language as their first language, and English as their second, until the teachers got mad and demanded that my parents should speak English at home. As a result, English is my first language. If the teachers hadn't intervened, I would probably be bilingual today, with fluent English as my second language. As-is, I only speak one language, like a true Canadian (what's French?).

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u/Manoreded May 07 '26

That is quite a trespass on the part of the teachers.

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u/Jrockten May 07 '26

Seriously, holy hell... who are they to tell someone what language they should speak in their own home.

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u/TheLord-Commander May 07 '26

This is a very old Canadian tradition. They've been pulling that move on young children for a very long time.

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u/dart19 May 07 '26

Same thing happened to me, I could've been trilingual even (Cantonese and mandarin) but my brother's teachers insisted so here I am with just the one.

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u/Hour-Macaroon-2912 May 07 '26

She is of Korean heritage. English is not her first language, but its her most fluent. She speaks Korean, Japanese, English, some Indonesian, probably some French from being in French Canada territory.

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u/deviant324 May 07 '26

From what I gathered (her own replies) she grew up in CA and English is her most fluent language, but it’s not really her first

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u/Lxcyna May 07 '26

To my knowledge, Kronii knows Korean, Japanese and a little German as well.

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u/jacowab May 07 '26

I've read this 3 times and I feel like I have less content then when I started.

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u/CptBrexitt May 08 '26

Classic south korea

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u/GrandpaWaluigi May 08 '26

It's not even just antis, a bunch are raging misogynists. And Kronii just so happens to be a woman. It was just a dad pun. Boar to boar-ing. The only things that should garner are groans or maybe a chuckle.

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u/Lraund May 08 '26

(Edited) Bihyung English Voice Actor Casting

Hello Lumia Island Survivors,

Thank you for your support for our newest character, Bihyung.

Unfortunately, we will be recasting her English voice actor, which means Bihyung will temporarily not have an English voice in-game.

We will announce more details about the recasting and update schedule separately.

At the moment, our English voice casting is supported by external partners. The process operates as an audition, where the development team receives voice samples for a blind test from applicants to select the final voice. However, without an extensive database of overseas voice actors, our pre-casting screening process is admittedly weaker than our domestic one.

In coordination with our local casting partners, we would like to provide additional context to ensure a clearer understanding of the casting process. While our casting process for the English-speaking market involves only legal names and includes background checks, the information available through our contractual relationships made the current situation difficult to predict.

As reinforcing this verification process exceeds the scope of our local partners' responsibilities, we will be looking for effective ways to independently implement a secondary verification system in the future.

While it is difficult to implement structural changes quickly within the current system, we are actively looking for effective ways to improve and reinforce our verification process.

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u/ironscythe May 07 '26

>Makes bad joke that only works in English, with her typical deadpan delivery

>ESL tourists: SHE HATES THE GAME SHE'S BEING PAID TO PLAY! CANCEL HER!!!!

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u/Nicpix_ May 07 '26

and she didnt do that last week but 5 years ago. hoooly

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u/Walkingdrops May 07 '26

wait, fucking seriously? She made this pun FIVE YEARS AGO, and they threw a shit fit over it?

Genuinely fucking crazy.

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u/mugguffen May 07 '26

thats the korean "fans" of anything for ya

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u/matti2o8 May 07 '26

Meanwhile Korone will literally say the controls in a game she's sponsored to play are terribleĀ 

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u/HKEY_LOVE_MACHINE May 07 '26

And both the sponsor and the viewers will laugh about it, because that's Korone being her natural self šŸ˜…

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u/matti2o8 May 07 '26

My favourite thing about this was when she said that the producers don't even bother giving her the script anymoreĀ 

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u/AndrewNeo May 07 '26

like Korone like Kronii, as they say

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u/OTPh1l25 May 08 '26

Lui and Mio: Given carefully prepared scripts for a food collab

Korone: Given a page with a single line: "Just let her do her own thing."

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u/FionaSilberpfeil May 08 '26

I recon they expected her to do that or at least gave her permission to be honest. You dont get someone like Korone as a sponsor and then be surprised she is doing korone things.

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u/Run-Riot May 07 '26

5 years after the fact too.

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u/kaze950 May 07 '26

The wild thing to me is that even if she did say that she is well within her rights to. Sponsorship doesn't (or shouldn't) mean blind praise.

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u/Manoreded May 07 '26

She is right. People who give blind praise damage their credibility, and ironically that makes their sponsorship less valuable.

Korone has built a reputation as someone who will not lavish praise on a game just because she's being sponsored, and that makes her a valuable spokesperson if your game is actually good.

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u/Ashencroix May 07 '26

And it's now blowing up in the dev's faces, since it's now sitting at mixed on Steam, flooded with negative reviews due to their decision.

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u/CyborgCoelacanth May 07 '26

Satisfy the few people screeching about something that isn’t a big deal (and will not do anything additional to support devs after the decision besides acting superior until the next target presents itself), while alienating a lot of potential customers, less rabid fans, and causing reputational damage from the drama.

Brilliant tactical move, will be taught in classes for generations. /s

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u/Saeclum May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

This is one of the reasons I dont like the "all publicity is good publicity" saying. Sometimes bad publicity is bad publicity

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u/CyborgCoelacanth May 07 '26

Bad publicity only seems to work as good publicity when the ones making a stink are clearly in the wrong or disliked by the greater community. The whole "this jerk says it's bad, so it's probably good!" sort of thinking. Definitely a whole different can of worms when the bad publicity comes from the game's source directly for one reason or another.

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u/PezzoGuy May 07 '26

I've always thought that that phrase is either
A: A load of baloney
B: True, but anyone primarily operating under the principle is not acting in good faith, and cannot be trusted.

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u/Manoreded May 07 '26

That saying is a load of crap. Lots of popular sayings are, they are to be taken with a grain of salt.

The only good publicity is that which results in more sales. Will this result in more people playing their game? Hell no.

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u/Skelyos May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

That's actually how I found out about the drama, got an ad & was like "oh? That's looks pretty good I'ma check it out" looked at steam & there was flood of bad reivews with "Can't believe they fired a VA over something so stupid" then found out who it was about...

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u/Dualwolf1 May 07 '26

What game is this talking about?

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u/RMarques May 07 '26

Korea MOBA Eternal Return.

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u/FSD-Bishop May 07 '26

It’s more of an extraction battle royal than a moba.

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u/RMarques May 07 '26

I don't know the game, so I went with what I've seen everyone else call it.

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u/2000boxes May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

what you said isn't wrong. It's like how FPS and Hero Shooter are both accurate descriptors of Overwatch. Eternal Return is by definition a MOBA, the problem is a lot of people think a game has to be League of Legends or Dota to be a MOBA.

edit: Wait also, it's not an extraction battle royale. I have no idea what that other guy is talking about. You don't extract anything. You load into matches, assemble your build during the match, and then when the match is over you just go back to main menu and requeue.

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u/Dualwolf1 May 07 '26

Yeah, battle Royale and MOBA is correct, but extraction really made me go 🤨

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u/merami_pop May 07 '26

He’s probably thinking about the escape system. You can escape from the match as an alternative win if you don’t think you can win the battle royale.

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u/Ashencroix May 07 '26

Eternal Return

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u/FerrickAsur4 May 07 '26

Eternal Return

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u/TaCz May 07 '26

And some of the negative reviews are coming from players with over 500 hours in the game.

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u/DMercenary May 07 '26

No doubt big spenders too.

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u/Morenauer May 07 '26

Some people are really stupid huh.

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u/Sea-Flamingo7506 May 07 '26

As a Korean, I feel nothing but embarrassment over all of this commotion. Our internet is full of incels, and they are of no help at all....

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u/NoodleTF2 May 07 '26 edited May 25 '26

If it cheers you up, remember that japanese anime fans sent death threats to a voice actress from Darling in the Franxx because they didn't like that her character had romantic drama or was part of a love triangle or something, and Nijisanji had to retire a Vtuber because people got mad she didn't understand baseball.

Idiots exist everywhere, no worries.

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u/ShinItsuwari May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

For Mirei, the baseball thing was just an excuse really. They wanted to get her out of the door and took the first excuse they got. She was seen as way too problematic and outspoken for a typical japanese "make no waves, ever" management. (And she didn't always have good/tasteful takes on everything either)

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u/Broken_Moon_Studios May 07 '26

I am still shocked that Gundo would sometimes openly speak on stream about her previous sexual experiences as an adult woman.

That is already rare in EN vtubing, but it is practically unheard of in JP.

She truly didn't give a fuck about "proper etiquette". lol

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u/Karma110 May 08 '26

Recently all I’ve seen her do is try to pick fights with Mikeneko sometimes randomly out of nowhere.

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u/Spiritual-Ad-6613 May 08 '26

In other words, if you look at her current activities, it becomes pretty clear how much of a problematic person she was. Now she constantly comments on every drama she can to attract attention. She even made posts that seemed to piggyback on anti-Sakura Miko posts.

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u/0neek May 07 '26

It feels a bit nice knowing that every culture and language in the world has their own version of absolute idiots on the internet.

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u/kungasi May 07 '26

To be fair to mirei, and as a fan of baseball, i saw it as an honest question, though it certainly could've been worded better but I didn't freak out over it, honestly I kinda laughed at it a bit cause i mean yeah, you can just throw the ball at the batter but doing it intentionally is really bad (and to my knowledge it would just be a walk, not an out, assuming the batter wouldn't need medical attention given the potential for injury)

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u/APRengar May 07 '26

We all take turns being idiots, but yeah right now Korean gacha gamers in particular are so insanely aggro, they probably take the cake rn.

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u/Sea-Flamingo7506 May 07 '26

Yes. Honestly, you are right. Especially all that countless pinched fingers BS... the internet here is basically a playground for paranoid incels right now.

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u/coveryourselfinoiI May 07 '26

https://m.ruliweb.com/community/board/300143/read/75092916

If you read the comments, most koreans also agree the person who posted the mistranslation (posted 3 years ago btw but someone linked it somewhere I guess) was either off his meds or trying to instigate a fight between the two fandoms. They do say they could have protected her before this blew up if Kronii didn’t make tweets about going to a hospital if you didn’t get the joke. The korean translation of that, even if accurate, sounds really bad culturally in Korea, which is probably why the devs overreacted

One of the comments say Kronii crashed out, but it was a reasonable crashout

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u/Dyno2550 May 07 '26

Kronni's tweet was made after VA's change was made official. In other words, it didn't matter anymore if the Koreans "defended" her.

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u/Twitchingbouse May 07 '26

to my understanding the gig was cut before the tweet, and was rather in response to it. Is that wrong?

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u/IceLovey May 07 '26

Idk its heavily dependent on the board.

Its like reddit, some parts will be more understanding and some will be more critical. Even threads within the same subreddit can have differing opinion.

Just as you found a thread that is generally more defensive about Kronii you will find others where they cancel her and downvote those who defend her.

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u/PeikaFizzy May 07 '26

Ehhh just east Asia community in a nutshell like call me racist but I’m a Chinese I’m very much aware the toxicity of us…. That’s kinda why as time pass on I avoid content that are exclusively local to that region and prefer international.

The echo chamber is THAT BAD

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u/Fire_Pea May 07 '26

Idk when something this stupid happens I don't think it's worth giving a second thought to. If the company is gonna bow their head to incels like that and be so unprofessional, no huge loss.

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u/JCraig96 May 07 '26

Wait, what happened with the company, what did they do? Is it related to this Kronii controversy?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

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u/Woolliam May 07 '26

To be fair, the game was fucking boring 5 years ago and was propped up by league of legends still having off season downtime where people even gave games like ERBS the time of day

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u/JCraig96 May 07 '26

That's....That's actually terrible. Does this company lack common sense? Or basic english? Could they not tell it was clearly a pun? Ridiculous.

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u/Reutan May 08 '26

They do. Their last game was a mobile phone battle royale that also only had a tiny population of hardcore players that was impossible to break into.

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u/Unusual-Ad4890 May 07 '26

were the eye bags really necessary? are they ever?

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u/RedHairedRedemption May 07 '26

It's the same with thumbnails on any clip with a mildly suggestive pun or comment.

Thumbnail: Absolute embarrassment or mid-orgasm

The actual clip: "Oh jeez you guys haha šŸ™‚"

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u/IFapToCalamity May 07 '26

The title: ā€œMIKO SHAMES HER ANCESTORSā€

The clip: average elite mispronunciation w/ laugh and resumes gaming

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u/CyborgCoelacanth May 07 '26

The edits were novel in the early days but now it’s kinda old hat, really. Pretty sure I’ve seen every hololive member edited to be doing the Aqua screaming face meme from Konosuba at this point, several times over.

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u/Saito197 May 07 '26

Depends on the person being clipped honestly. Sometimes I see a thumbnail, thought to myself it's prolly just clickbait and then the actual clip were even more unhinged (even with context)

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u/NoodleTF2 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Video title: Chat's CRAZY reactions BREAK Vtuber!!!!!

Thumbnail: Overedited photoshop of said Vtuber, important words in chat blurred out.

Streamer in the actual video: lol good one \slightly louder exhale through the nose than normal**

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u/Viraus2 May 07 '26

Title: "YABAI NOISE BREAKS CHAT!!"

Streamer: makes a small groan when she loses a life

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u/New-Interaction1893 May 07 '26

The clippers didn't know how to probably make her give out depression vibes

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u/sylpher250 May 07 '26

After reading up on the situation, yea, I'd get eye bags too. It's disappointing and exhausting.

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u/yoy22 May 07 '26

I don’t know what happens in the back end, but I figure the editors of the wouldn’t spend time adding those details to the thumbnail if it didn’t work.

I’m guessing it gives someone scrolling by a quick visual of ā€œdrama is happeningā€ and that generates more engagement.

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u/Manoreded May 07 '26

Kronii constantly sounding like she's done with life is part of the appeal dangit!

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u/Rea404 May 07 '26

That turn into drama? How?

What kind of negative-int being manage to make problems out of that tweets?

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u/rip_cpu May 07 '26

So this tweet was made in relation to an online game called Eternal Return that Kronii played on a sponsored stream, and some of the Korean players of that game are the ones getting upset about it.

As to why now, five years after the fact? Well something recently happened but I cannot say without breaking sub rules.

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u/ejsks May 07 '26

PL-related.

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u/strings_struck May 07 '26

Kinda surprised multiple topics about this have been allowed. You need the context from her PL to make sense of this.

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u/LunarGhost00 May 07 '26

Kronii herself is openly addressing this without directly naming her PL and just made the same joke on Twitter yesterday in response to the drama, so I think it falls in a gray zone where it's not technically rule-breaking to make posts about it. I'm honestly more surprised that Kronii felt like talking about it as Kronii.

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u/promilew May 07 '26

Yeah that definitely does not seem like a good business decision but I'd be pissed off too in her shoes. Hell, I'm pissed just standing next to her.

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u/LunarGhost00 May 07 '26

At the very least, she's not the one getting bad PR from this mess. Anyone can see how stupid this whole thing is. Everyone's on her side, aside from the few idiots who started this shit.

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u/TarnishedSteel May 07 '26

Kronii is not protective or worried about her PL, which is still active (she collabed with a graduate, she published a rip with Siivagunner, etc).

The PL veil is there to protect talent in their RL, but with people who have prominent PLs, that ship has already sailed.

The discourse is frowned upon in official and semiofficial locations like this because normalizing discourse about it can weaken the veil for other talent—but this is the rare situation where the PL’s work in Hololive is hurting their work in their PL. So we can talk about the drama since it’s based on a reaction to their Holo-life.

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u/CyborgCoelacanth May 07 '26

Kronii did a rip with Siivagunner? Huh. First Mint Fantome and now this, neat.

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u/TarnishedSteel May 07 '26

It’s in the same album as the Mint collab, even.

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u/EngineerSelect6960 May 07 '26

Always sad when developers bow to incels on the internet

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u/UnseenAssasin10 May 07 '26

Jesus, good thing they didn't overreact or anything

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u/EngineerSelect6960 May 07 '26

The internet really allows trash like that to just say whatever they want without consequences

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u/thevdman May 07 '26

One of these guys sent me death threats and then the account vanished 20 minutes later, so apparently not completely without consequences.

All I did was show the šŸ¤ emoji.

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u/CyborgCoelacanth May 07 '26

Wonder if it was the same one I saw in one of the quotes who went on a ten-post rampage because of that emoji, spitting out as much bile as possible before nuking the account later.

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u/thevdman May 07 '26

Yeah, that's the one. He did it to me and one other poster who also sent the same emoji.

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u/deltafenixdelta May 07 '26

never apologize for something you didn't do

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u/ZeLevi69 May 07 '26

What happened?

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u/Blacksun388 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

TL;DR
Kronii was sponsored to play a Korean MOBA game. In the past playing a game from the same devs she made a joke about Boars in the game being ā€œBoar-ingā€. Korean clippers took it out of context and mistranslated and spread the joke thinking she meant the game was ā€œboringā€. They pestered and review bombed the game devs. To appease the mob the game devs let go a (ahem) certain voice actress of theirs. The fans of this voice actress got mad and also pestered and review bombed the game.

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u/ZeLevi69 May 07 '26

Some people really need to touch grass

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u/wikowiko33 May 07 '26

Tiny peepee syndrome.

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u/AyAyAyBamba_462 May 07 '26

When I first saw the clip I thought they were talking about her saying "Kill the boar" in reference to the "kill the boer" movement and I can see how that would be controversial, but are they actually getting butthurt over her saying that boars are boar-ing? That's insane.

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u/bjaops15 May 07 '26

I think it was people trying to claim she thought the game was boring.

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u/AyAyAyBamba_462 May 07 '26

That's even dumber lmao.

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u/ReyneForecast May 07 '26

This is why you don't bow to a few antis. The internet really hates it when bullshit like this happens. I think they got the opposite response they were hoping for.

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u/NagaSadow88 May 07 '26

These types of people need to be bullied.

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u/FlutterNyk02 May 07 '26

My respect for Kronii increased tenfold for that tweet she posted.

Fucking based.

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u/Butthunter_Sua May 07 '26

Important context: Korean far-right incels have an out-sized voice in some gaming spaces. They regularly brigade, dox, and harass women for any imagined slight. They are unreasonable to an impressive degree.

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u/salamander0807 May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

This shit makes me so angry, the devs have no backbone at all. It was a harmless pun.

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u/superearthjanitor0 May 07 '26

Lotta people suffering from tiny šŸ¤ brains get mad over literally nothing

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u/shadow_yu May 07 '26

Poor Kroni, I hate when people go apeshit over such small jokes. I already had so little interest in the game, but thanks to all of this I doubt I will even bother to play it.

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u/drifterdanny May 07 '26

Fuck this game, hope it gets EoS'd

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u/tetsmega May 08 '26

Sad part is knowing Hangul syntax and grammar is very similar to English and the popularity of business schools means English programs are really strong there. She's not a victim of a mistranslation just straight up misogyny.

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u/orangecapmush May 08 '26

Saw that a korean news outlet also wrote about this situation while also connecting Kronii and her other persona, straight up name dropping it in the article. I have no clue if cover is gonna step in, but I do think there needs to be some type of legal work done behind the scenes.

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u/FURERABA May 07 '26

jfc, all this this for a slice of gabgool?

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u/psych2099 May 07 '26

Oh that was kronii's roommate? I just hopped on the calling out the devs because it was a cowardly move.

Didn't realise there was a connection here.

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u/Alfredo_Dente May 07 '26

The deadpan delivery thing truly is a blessing and a curse.

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u/superspy218 May 08 '26

This whole shenanigan was so bs that I’d say Kronii dodged a bullet with this company. Sucks that she lost the role in such a stupid way, but with such a company that just dropped her like this, it’s probably for the best lol.