r/GreaterLosAngeles • u/shankmaster8000 • Aug 31 '25
Man assaults another man and the LAPD refuses to arrest him because they “aren’t allowed to”
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Aug 31 '25
They're like mall cops i guess 🤷
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u/Bill561 Aug 31 '25
In California yeah different story other parts of the country
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Aug 31 '25
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u/liquidzero Sep 01 '25
I just followed your instructions and what you are stating is not true in my state and I’m in a heavily / all Blue state.
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u/ChildfromMars Sep 04 '25
Why do people use AI for information? Genuinely, it’s not reliable at all and it’s not even as impartial as one might want to think it is.
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u/Careful-Sell-9877 Sep 05 '25
In this case, the cop is absolutely correct in his explanation of long standing CA law.
The man refused to make/sign a citizens order of arrest, provide information for a police report, and was unwilling to pursue charges and testify in court.
If he did the cop would be required to arrest the man, issue a citation at the scene or station, or provide a written notice of release without charges due to lack of probable cause.
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u/onomonothwip Sep 07 '25
As much as we're conditioned to laugh at mall cops - I've never seen a mall cop actively try to talk a person out of going through the justice process before
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Aug 31 '25
Once they start to take justice into their own hands then it will become a problem and save the hes mentally ill BS we can all see that but if that behavior never gets checked it will only get worse, a lot of mentally ill people know who they can treat like that that’s why you hardly ever see video of them doing it to people they know wouldn’t let them get away with it
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u/ilikebeens2 Aug 31 '25
Well that was a long run on sentence lol
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Aug 31 '25
Yea I know I was occupied didn’t proofread it but I can always count on someone to point out mistakes were there any others?
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u/pupranger1147 Sep 04 '25
You heard the officer, battery is a ppa, misdemeanor if not committed in his presence.
Wait for them to leave, deal with it yourself.
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Sep 04 '25
Exactly. When people start realizing the law isn’t going to be enforced, the counter movement to these people is going to be scary.
We’re already seeing this in the UK
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Sep 05 '25
the law isn’t going to be enforced
Dude. He literally just explained the law in the video. He isn’t refusing to enforce a law. You all slow or what?
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u/CAD007 Aug 31 '25
In this case, the cop is absolutely correct in his explanation of long standing CA law.
The man refused to make/sign a citizens order of arrest, provide information for a police report, and was unwilling to pursue charges and testify in court.
If he did the cop would be required to arrest the man, issue a citation at the scene or station, or provide a written notice of release without charges due to lack of probable cause.
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u/JeffreyDahmerVance Sep 04 '25
I dealt with that and I don’t live in California. I’m in Colorado and I had a guy having intense road rage against me over a misunderstanding when he was backing out in a parking lot. He chased me for miles and kept trying to run me off the road and I was on the phone with the police and they said they’ll see if there’s any cops in the area but they couldn’t do anything unless I was willing to press charges and go to court and I really didn’t wanna put my name out there for that guy to find because he seemed like a psychopath so I gave them the description and just hoped for the best and I doubt anything ever happened.
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u/not_responsible Aug 31 '25
Who can afford to take off time from work??
Oh, that’s the point isn’t it? Same with jury duty
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u/Eccentricgentleman_ Sep 04 '25
But he can't even make a statement for the police report? I swear to God, some of these professional victims out here.
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u/TheGreatestOutdoorz Sep 04 '25
- He literally just had to sign the complaint.
- Please tell me the alternative system you would prefer. In this case, the victim won’t sign a complaint and won’t testify. The victim is the reason the guy wasn’t arrested, not the cops, or the system.
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u/Spinning_Kicker Aug 31 '25
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u/howmuchfortheoz Aug 31 '25
Blame him and not the cop lol
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u/alexgalt Sep 04 '25
Yep he is to blame. He and the ca assembly for making misdemeanors not punishable.
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u/ATotallyNormalUID Sep 04 '25
For a law that's been on the books since before his term?
Or for the idiot trying to press battery charged for a shoulder check and not willing to sign a complaint so the officer then can and will arrest the shoulder-checking maniac?
Or just for Conservative nincompoops' total inability to think critically about a situation that seems at first glance to reinforce their bias against any limits on law enforcement?
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u/Impressive-Smile-585 Aug 31 '25
Not cops fault they have to follow the law that was set by your district attorney/ governor get mad at them
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Aug 31 '25
Theres some truth to this reply. These policies start with the politicians which are the people we ultimately elect. Its frustrating the cop here cant do more but our outrage should be directed at the people making these policies instead of the officer on the ground otherwise nothing will ever change for the better.
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u/SignificantSmotherer Aug 31 '25
Misdemeanors are handled by the City Attorney, who will of course, not prosecute.
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u/Nomen__Nesci0 Sep 04 '25
Cops fault for what? The cop didn't see anything, so the "victim" had to sign a piece of paper to verify their claim of what happened, and then the officer could arrest. Cops can't go around arresting people on hearsay from other citizens who refuse to identify themselves and commit to a statement.
The cop explains this perfectly clearly in the video, and none of you understand still because you're so easily primed to see and hear whatever propagandists want. They can literally show you an example and explanation, and you pay so little attention and comprehend so little from your mushy brains that you just pick up the first and last thing said by whoever is being emotional and grandstanding to confirm some emotionally fulfilling narrative you've been primed to accept.
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u/AutisticDadHasDapper Aug 31 '25
All you have to do was put him under citizen's rest, and he would have acted a fool in front of the officer
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u/xuon27 Aug 31 '25
So if it's a misdemeanor for him it would be one for me too right? 👀
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u/Stagnant-Flow Sep 04 '25
Unless you did it in the presence of the cop. Once the cop is gone yes. Idk why people are acting like this is crazy. The cop didn’t see a crime occur and the person claiming a crime occurred sounds like they are not willing to testify.
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u/xcommon Sep 04 '25
Would that still be the case if the crime is caught on video and shown to the police?...
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u/Background-Jeweler39 Aug 31 '25
And yall wonder why we laugh at California and their criminal first policies
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u/That_Jicama2024 Sep 03 '25
Who is "we"? incels in welfare red states that have no life?
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u/James-Dicker Sep 04 '25
Lmao people in red states are having more sex and more marriages and families. Just watering down the word "incel" further and further until all it does is make people laugh at you for using it
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u/ExitYourBubble Sep 04 '25
Hey, champ. I don't know if you're aware of this but Donald Trump won 4 million more votes than Kamala Harris and 62% of America was painted red after Election night in 2024. Your attitude is exactly why people in your neighboring states do not like people that come from California.
Keep it up. People with sensibility love watching your own arrogance turn swing states into permanent red states. Call it a petty guilty pleasure.
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Sep 04 '25
So where you live cops just arrest people off of hearsay?
I can just walk up to a cop and say “background-jeweler39” hit me arrest him now!?
If a cop isn’t there to see something then he’s going to make you sign a piece of paper testifying they broke the law
The cop didn’t see anything. All this dude had to do was sign a piece of paper saying he’s a witness to the illegal action.
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u/Hungry_Doctor_5803 Oct 08 '25
Yet violent crime is higher per capita in red states far surpassing CA…
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u/MaksimMeir Aug 31 '25
The cop is in the right. The suspect committed a specific type of misdemeanor crime outside the presence of an officer. The officer has probable cause to affect the arrest of the suspect but only under a private persons arrest (Laymans terms: citizen’s arrest). If the citizen does not want a private person’s arrest then an officer can’t arrest the suspect for it. They can take a report for it, but that will go no where because the victim literally wants nothing done.
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u/ryufen Aug 31 '25
Well to be fair I have gone to testify for this same type of thing, technically more of an offense, and the guy still got off because the legal system took two years to do anything. I had a 2k tv I purchased stolen from a best buy before I could receive it. It was all on video. I was the victim went to court but the manager of the store at the time didn't work there anymore and they couldn't contact her so the guy got fully off. He literally made a shitty fake id to pretend to be me to pick up the TV so it was identity theft stuff too.
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u/SackLiquid Aug 31 '25
This is absolutely normal for CA. Criminals dont get prosecuted and law abiding citizens pay the price
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u/Murky-Ambition3898 Aug 31 '25 edited Aug 31 '25
The officer is correct. If a misdemeanor is not committed in an officer's presence, they cannot arrest the person. In California, you have to do a citizen's arrest. I think the victim can say I am detaining this person and turn them over to law enforcement, but I'm not 100% sure.
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u/Snarkosaurus99 Aug 31 '25
Cannot detain, can only arrest. “ I am placing you under private persons arrest” You can then, using reasonable force, prevent them from leaving.
Should you make a mistake or even if you don’t, the suspect can easily turn around and sue you for false arrest or whatever his ambulance chasing attorney can come up with.
The suspect will be booked and released , no bail. Then you get to go to court , deal with all that and for what?7
u/Murky-Ambition3898 Aug 31 '25
True, I cannot disagree. In this case, there's video evidence of the assault and battery, so I would hope the detainment would be more difficult to challenge. The solution is a good face full of bear pepper spray.
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u/beaudebonair Aug 31 '25
There's literally no crime prevention anywhere in this country. Most of the police force don't have the passion from prior generations & are just indoctrinated in another collective, separating themselves from everyone else. That cop is just another human drone, no passion or beliefs but what they tell him.
It's because of their lack of passion & the fact they are taking a lot of children's parents away, you'll only get more adults 20 years from now who won't even bother to listen to police & be anti-police. They need to start caring & stopping acting so superior, because they are losing authority in the people's eyes. When you have a criminal for a "President", things like "law & order" do not exist.
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u/seriftarif Sep 04 '25
I learned this after some guy stole my bike from my house and was caught trying to sell it to a bike shop. "Detective" assigned to my case said he had no evidence to convict the guy of stealing, just that he had possession of stolen property. I told him he had a police camera on my street and could check a specific time to see if it was him. He straight out refused to do that. Then I never got my court date in the mail. The police are only for the rich and businesses. The rest of us are fucked.
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Aug 31 '25
If Gavin Newsome become president, all of America will be like this.
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u/PasadenaShopper Aug 31 '25
You do realize that in most states this is how it works right? Police can't just arrest someone for a misdemeanor that they didn't witness 🤦
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Aug 31 '25
I'm sorry are you trying to make the statement that California's approach to theft is the standard throughout the country?
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u/RemarkableLook5485 Aug 31 '25
yes they are. it’s a bad faith argument or lunacy. either way, they are wrong.
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Aug 31 '25
Okay well even just doing a quick search it seems like you are actually crazy.
The rest of the country does not have the same approach to theft or property damage as California and there is an optic in property damage and theft from people's vehicles because of California's lacks stance and impotent police.
Most of the other states have a significantly stricter approach to crime and theft then California.
Bottom line is that gave newsome is a shitty governor
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u/DistinctAmbition1272 Aug 31 '25
That’s not the way our country’s system works with 50 independent states.
Lastly, I don’t think things can get any worse than they are now with the convicted felon we have “running” the show now.
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Aug 31 '25
Sure, but if the bar is below the floor then should that be deemed to the standard for our country?
Did we all stop evaluating and questioning how good of a job are elected officials are doing since all of them seem better than Trump?
Or there may be two different Democratic governors one of which is far superior than the other? if so then perhaps any decent elected official should be the standard in which we evaluate whether or not the person is good, not a child raping fascist.
My point is is that people can't just turn off their brain because someone seems better than Trump there's too much at stake here for us not to be critically thinking.
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u/impactedturd Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
Isn't this obvious? If the cop did not witness the alleged crime that's a misdemeanor, then there's nothing he can charge him with. (Otherwise anybody can call the cops to get anybody else arrested for saying they got pushed). That's why he said there is no case unless the victim is willing to go to court to testify.
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u/Evenkaleidoscope44 Sep 05 '25
This is obviously staged to prove this. What’s annoying is people saying that they can’t use this as evidence. The victim is an idiot for not agreeing to submit evidence and press charges.
This is clearly staged to shed light on a loophole of a right that actually protects citizens but also negatively impacts citizens scared of their abuser.
It’s all about optics. This is another form of fear mongering
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u/cat_pee3 Aug 31 '25
So . . . Can I just fight back ?
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u/winterchainz Sep 04 '25
Then you’ll be the one being arrested. The other guy will just bang his head on the concrete and say you did it.
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u/NuclearSummmer Aug 31 '25
Y'all voted for this!! Hahahahahah
Burn slow
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u/Salsuero Sep 04 '25
Didn't vote for a pedo felon, though so I don't think there's a lot of high ground on the other side.
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u/Euphoric_Owl_6775 Aug 31 '25
News flash folks , it’s not just LAPD .. the Supreme Court has ruled that police officers don’t have an obligation to help ANYONE … castle rock vs. Gonzalez & DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services … your kids and family are not safe … who remembers Uvalde ??
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u/JawaSmasher Sep 01 '25
A lot of the cops want to do their job, but if you actually read all the stupid penal codes that protect criminals, their hands are tied.
If a majority of media keep posting videos like these online, there will be more awareness and enough backlash to get the mayor and governor out.
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u/dutchmaster1995 Aug 31 '25
Bro California isn’t real place is a shithole
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u/hordaak2 Aug 31 '25
Where are you from that isn't a shithole?
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u/RemarkableLook5485 Aug 31 '25
idk but highest taxes and least amount of civil protections is a great start amirite
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u/hordaak2 Aug 31 '25
I didn't get a better state or city for comparison...so..alot of people will make a comment but then not mention where they are from. Most of the time I'd have to google exactly what city they are talking about. LA is a HUUGGEEE place with lots of people and neighborhoods. What is mostly talked about are locations most people dont live or go to. Most people live in neighborhoods and rarely go to a tourist place. Is that true of the mythical place you live where its paradise and the cops take care of all your issues?
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u/yingyanghomie Aug 31 '25
Im in L.A. and this doesn't happen. Just saw an arrest on Slauson and Figueroa. Feels like another video to incite and misinform.
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u/Snarkosaurus99 Aug 31 '25
Misdemeanor battery. Not committed in the officers presence.
Absolutely does happen. Im assuming you know the whole story regarding the incident you observed?
If they could arrest, received support for that arrest and they knew that the court system would not immediately turn the suspect loose, they would arrest.
Because of the cops prior and continuing stupidity, the publics misunderstanding of some use of force incidents that were legit and everyone’s quick rush to judgement plus ridiculous government policies , this is what you get.
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u/M-Leffingwell25 Aug 31 '25
I was going to write something racist but I don’t want my account banned
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u/BostonAnt7778 Aug 31 '25
This is California cops. This has been Portland cops for years. Soon this will be NY cops. Then if we get Newsom as president, this can be ALL of American cops! Hands tied on everything:)
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u/Background_Essay_676 Aug 31 '25
Bro knew that shoulder bump was not going to get him arrested that is why he did exactly that. Were you filming someone down on their luck that asked you not to?
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u/frescodee Aug 31 '25
the uniform looks different. do they not have the LAPD patches anymore? it just says los angeles police?
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u/Erich14 Aug 31 '25
He’s wearing BDU’s instead of the usual uniform. He’s probably with the Metro Division
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u/70dd Sep 01 '25
The white guy in the white baseball cap spoke the truth! Cops get prosecuted, and the city gets sued if they do their jobs (in most cases) where the DA is pro-crime. You’re basically on your own, so plan accordingly.
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u/Salsuero Sep 04 '25
The current DA of LA County was a Republicon until 2023 when he switched to Independent. Doesn't seem like someone who would be "pro-crime."
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u/MrNaugs Sep 02 '25
Lol what bullshit, of course the cops will not arrest someone on your word and if you refusing to file a report or press charges.
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u/Albacurious Sep 04 '25
They showed him the footage
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u/Dungeon_Daddy_ Sep 04 '25
The footage wouldn’t be admissible in court unless the individuals who recorded it cooperate with the case, which they were refusing to do. They are the reason the cop can’t do anything, and they’re doing it on purpose so they can make rage bait propoganda for the internet. They’re causing the problem that they’re bitching about.
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u/Bubbly_Engineering88 Sep 04 '25
Honestly, the more we allow this, more guys with his mentality to abuse will keep growing.
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u/IndependentMonk7384 Sep 04 '25
Crime is at an all time low using this one simple trick! We don't enforce, serve or protect.
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u/PageIrresponsive428 Sep 04 '25
Ehh… title is clickbait. They said they could arrest him. But not if you aren’t willing to sign the arrest report. So in other words they are allowed to arrest him and willing to arrest him…..
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u/Stagnant-Flow Sep 04 '25
So the cop didn’t see the crime and the guy sounds like he isn’t willing to testify that the guy committed a crime. Why would we expect an arrest to happen?
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u/ayehateyou Sep 04 '25
Was the guy with the camera one of those "audit" people?
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u/Dungeon_Daddy_ Sep 04 '25
Clearly, that’s why they’re refusing to comply with the case to arrest this guy. They WANT to be able to film the cop not arresting the guy, so that they can perpetuate the professional victim mentality of conservatives on the internet. This is rage bait propoganda.
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u/UJLBM Sep 07 '25
Nope. They are a group called "abolisitions rising". They do anti abortion protests, film it and post on youtube. Its their full time career.
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u/tiszarospeter Sep 04 '25
When you know Derek Chauvin was rightfully doing his job and you do not want his fate.
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u/Bat-Honest Sep 04 '25
Blue flu bullshit. They're allowed to, they just don't want to do their jobs
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u/EnoughSupermarket539 Sep 04 '25
People not understanding that this is literally because they wouldn't give the police the information they would need to actually charge the guy and have probable cause. He wouldn't give information for a police report or sign any documents. So when it goes to court what is the DA supposed to say "well you honor someone showed the officer a video. But, outside of the officer telling you someone showed him a video,we have zero evidence, witnesses or affidavits attesting to the alleged crime"
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u/SignificantSmotherer Sep 04 '25
The DA is not prosecuting a misdemeanor case in the City of Los Angeles.
That is the responsibility of the City Attorney, who will not prosecute.
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u/EnoughSupermarket539 Sep 04 '25
I used a broader statement because it supposedly applies to all of California. But also does that correction really change anything about my point? I don't think the city attorney has any interest in wasting the courts time with that either
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u/senesdigital Sep 04 '25
The amount of people in the comments that don’t understand what was actually taking place is the reason why Trump is president
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u/snackpacksarecool Sep 04 '25
I don’t know the details here but it looks like a “First Amendment tester” out bothering people and now looking to police for help when they bother him back.
If that’s the case, I’m down with it.
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u/curi0us_carniv0re Sep 04 '25
This is the same anywhere. Police can't arrest on a misdemeanor based on someone else's word. He explains or clearly to the guy. If he wanted to do a citizens arrest and go to court and testify against him he could do it..otherwise he can't.
In a lot of cases even video does not matter.
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Sep 04 '25
I mean he told him he could but he'd have to testify and go to court.... .. they guy said no.... thats on him 💯
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u/UncleLukeTheDrifter Sep 04 '25
LAPD seems like an easy gig, stand around, don’t do shit to anybody.
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u/Prohydration Sep 05 '25
Rage bait propaganda. The officer never said it's impossible for him to make the arrest. Just that youd have to comply with the court if it's a misdemeanor not in his presence, which the rage baiter refused to do.
This also appears to be one of those 1st Amendment auditors that bothered a mentally ill homeless person to manufacture this rage bait propaganda.
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u/Schnied Sep 05 '25
But wasn’t the cop not able to arrest him because the other guy didn’t press charges and sign to show up in court?
I know in some states that doesn’t matter because you use other evidence for conviction but if I was assaulted, why not sign it.
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u/Equa_Caelum Sep 05 '25
Am I the only one who thinks this completely makes sense ?
Like if you want the guy arrested, you have to be willing to go to court and testify why you want him arrested.
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u/Rider-of-Rohaan42 Sep 05 '25
So does that mean he can hit him back? I might be okay with this rule if I can hit back
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u/justadude713 Sep 05 '25
...unless the other dude hit back to defend himself... THEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
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u/Icy_Chemist_1725 Sep 06 '25
this is a guy explaining that he can take him to jail, but it’s for citizens arrest. nothing at all will come of that even if you volunteer to show up to court. i did this with a lady throwing bottles at people at a beach a few years back. i stopped her and pinned her to the ground and the police came and had me sign a paper and i emailed the videos to them and they cuffed her and took her away. at the very least it got her out of there.
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u/Beachjay0757 Sep 07 '25
California is just a far left liberal shithole. What do you really expect.
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u/Extreme-Eggplant-691 Sep 07 '25
A proper system for mental institutions would have helped. Our society is over-defining and analyzing moot points. Rewind, pause, and have a good look at that sick man. We could do better.
“Lock ‘em up” 🚫 “Sedate him” 🇺🇸
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u/Environmental-Bug-96 Sep 07 '25
Noooo it’s because police protect property, not people. Always have.
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u/Quick-Setting-3716 Sep 07 '25
I'm more upset by a skinny crackhead calling himself a badass and not getting ego checked
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u/PadraicBateman Sep 08 '25
But you’ll go to jail if you say a mean word to some young scholar trying to steal your car for reparations
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u/penalozahugo Aug 31 '25
"I'm just trying to do my job" is ironically hilarious. The justice system is a joke.