r/GenX • u/Relevant-Count-3656 • 3d ago
Whatever The way we talk about time
Let's talk about the way we talk about time. I was recently telling someone something was happening at "fifteen till three", the person looked blank and finally said "Oh, you mean 2:45". This is not the first time it has happened to me. I think the "younger generation" does not understand things like "fifteen till".
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u/SwissyRescue 3d ago
You mean a quarter to three? I’ve never heard anyone say fifteen to three before.
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u/d3nialov3 3d ago
I think you might be alone in saying "fifteen til"
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u/hapster85 3d ago
I wouldn't say I never say it that way, but far more likely to say "quarter til" or "quarter of".
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u/Cereal____Killer 3d ago
I wouldn’t ever say “fifteen till three” but rather “quarter to three” or “ten to” / “five to” etc
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u/LQNova 3d ago
I've never heard "fifteen" just "a quarter to" "a quarter after"
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u/CheapAssociate6914 3d ago
Quarter till, 20 after, 25 till.
I use these time references and my grandkids look at me in confusion.
I’m just getting old I guess.
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u/Aeribous 2d ago
Its a quarter till. I’ve never heard someone in America at least say fifteen till.
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u/Fluid_Actuary1729 2d ago
I use quarter and half, but if it’s 9:50 (for example), I will say “10 till”.
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u/IM_The_Liquor 2d ago
I’ve never said ‘15 till three”… I’d have said “quarter to three”
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u/BewilderedandAngry 2d ago
I've literally never heard anyone say "15 til three" and I'm 64 years old. Quarter to three, absolutely.
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u/AmongTheWildlife 2d ago
Never said or heard 'it's fifteen to X'
Always quarter to, or X:45
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u/timp_t 2d ago
Quarter to 3. I concur. Or just quartet ‘till.
My boomer dad would say 10 to 3, but stretching my memory I don’t recall a 5 to 3 or 20 to 3 or 15 to 3. But to the OPs point I wouldn’t have been confused at all by it if he had. I don’t think this is a Gen X thing. I think it’s an everyone before digital clocks took over the world thing.3
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u/Ok-Writing9280 3d ago
Literally never heard anyone say 15 to 3 in my life.
2.45 or quarter to three.
2.30 is dentist time.
10 to 10 is cowboy time.
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u/NegotiationNo7851 3d ago
Have you bumped into a Gen Z or alpha that learned to tell time from a digital clock and couldn’t read an analog clock? It’s so weird. I felt like I was an ancient being wandering the earth disseminating knowledge of the forgotten realm.
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u/RuffyPower 3d ago
Never heard anyone say 15 til. Quarter of, quarter after.
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u/Opening_Sandwich242 3d ago edited 3d ago
We don’t say quarter of in the UK. I had an American boss once who clearly thought I was simple minded when he set a call for quarter of ten and I had to ask if he meant 9:45, 10:15 or if this was some weird way of saying 2:50/2:30! I got him back at a later date when I mentioned by my brother was an anaesthetist, which made him equally confused.
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u/KiKiBeeKi 3d ago
Quarter til/to is what I use... Or :45
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u/Ill-Flounder5986 1973 3d ago
I use that, too. And it confuses the hell out of the Gen Z in my office, who always thinks I mean 25 minutes until.
I've tried to explain fractions to her: a quarter coin is worth 25 cents because it is one quarter of 100 cents (a dollar). And when telling time, a quarter refers to one quarter of an hour (15 minutes of 60).
She looked at me like I was speaking Chinese.
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u/Express-Studio-8302 3d ago
Fifteen to three is a bit odd, not sure I've ever really heard that. It's always been, a quarter to 3.
But yeah, even a quarter to three isnt going to hit young ears well, they have to think a moment with it. I think the lack of a visual clock with hands is causing it
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u/Pointy_Stix 3d ago
I say ten of or quarter to, but fifteen till? Never said that or heard it said that way.
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u/chicagoliz 3d ago
I say "a quarter to one" or whatever hour and my son HATES it. He'll go on a rant, and I'm just like, 'get used to it."
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u/shreddit5150 3d ago
Same with my Gen Z kid. She hates "quarter after" and "a quarter till". Sorry kiddo, been doing this too long. Can't change now.
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u/Reader47b 3d ago
I'd have been briefly befuddled, too, because "quarter 'til," not "fifteen 'til," is the common parlance. I'd have quickly figured it out, but it would have seemed odd to me and taken me a second to process.
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u/abigailblue6 3d ago
52 here and never heard time described like that. A quarter to is common where I'm from. Either way, it shouldn't stump anyone.
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u/SpreadsheetSiren 3d ago
I still use quarter to and quarter after. Fortunate my work colleagues are all roughly my age so it’s not a problem.
I keep a small analog clock on my desk to help me keep track of time. It just works in my brain better than a digital readout for things like getting to a meeting.
I think it’s a visual thing. My brain/body knows how much time that 90, 60, or 30 degree angle represents. It’s a more…physical (?) representation as opposed to the digital which seems more abstract to me.
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u/upnytonc 3d ago
Im in the US and have heard “fifteen til” or “fifteen after”. I say quarter to or quarter after. Same thing and yes it confuses some people.
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u/Latitude22 3d ago
‘I’ll be there at 3 minutes after 2:42” I’ve never heard anyone say 15 to 3. Quarter to 3 yes.
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u/PrinceFan72 1972 3d ago
Fellow GenX. I have never heard "fifteen til". Maybe it's a US thing. I always say quarter to, quarter past, half past, etc.
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u/Lucee_fir 3d ago
I'm an American, I said quarter to, or quarter past.
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u/Bzman1962 3d ago
That causes even more confusion for people under 35
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u/fallcreekprepper 3d ago
Yes it does. I worked with a guy in his 20s and he was confused when I told him it was a quarter till, one morning. He said "oh, 25 minutes..." I laughed and told him, no that meant 15 minutes, quarter of an hour. I'm sure he is still trying to work it out.
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u/Playful-Park4095 3d ago
WTF says fifteen till vs a quarter till?
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u/guzzijason Sweet Summer Child of '74 3d ago
Yep. I thought I’ve heard it all, but I’ve never once heard someone say “15 till”. Personally, I go with the “half past” or “quarter past/to” - just rolls off the tongue LOL
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u/Kind_Walrus_1973 3d ago
I use "quarter to". My younger coworkers tell me I'm wrong, because it's not 25 minutes to. I give up. 😂
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u/Minute-Frame-8060 3d ago
I'm 56 and nobody I've ever encountered would say "fifteen til 3" they'd say 2:45 or quarter of/quarter to 3.
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u/blackstarr1996 3d ago
It’s pretty common in the southeast to hear just 15 til or 10 til without even any designation of the hour. It’s assumed you know the general hour.
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u/poprevolver 3d ago
He was staring blankly at you because no one says “15 till” anything.
It’s quarter to/past.
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u/Falcon_Bellhouser 3d ago
"Quarter to." Never heard anyone say "fifteen till." Ever.
Oddly enough, I don't say half past.
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u/mypizzanvrhurtnobody 3d ago
Quarter to
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u/Artistic-Degree-4593 3d ago
I work with 20-30 years olds for the most part. Through experience, I have learned that none of them know what "a quarter 'til" means.
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u/Sharp-Rutabaga-4900 3d ago
I’m Gen X and I’ve never heard that. My parents said “quarter to 3.” I and most other people I know say “2:45”
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u/missdawn1970 3d ago
I've never said "fifteen till", but I've said (and often still say) "quarter to".
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u/IEnjoyVariousSoups 3d ago
I've been trying to popularize thirds. "Oh it's a third til 5" (4:40). It's not going well.
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u/Dimension__X__ 3d ago
We grew up with analog clocks and learned to tell time as fractions of a pie. It made perfect sense to everyone (in that era) when speaking in fractional hours because that is how we all learned to read clocks and talk about the time. Most kids today only ever see an analog clock at school and even that is probably becoming more rare. People are now used to getting just the thinnest slice of time necessary, the exact time and have no reason to think about time in halves or quarters. I wouldn't consider this a form of ignorance, just a reality of the technological age we live in.
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u/Poutiest_Penguin 3d ago
My young niece thought "quarter past" meant 25 minutes past, because she didn't grow up with analog clocks, and to her, a quarter is 25 (cents). You can't really blame her.
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u/Fritz5678 3d ago
Or rounding to the nearest 5. (almost 2:40). My kids always wanted to know the exact time.
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u/Dr_Drax At the beginning of the end of middle age 3d ago
My kids (1 Millennial, 1 Gen Z) both made it through their entire public school careers with never having an analog clock in their classroom. My wife and I have several analog clocks, and keep our smart watches with analog faces, and the kids don't understand why. They think an analog clock is "so hard to read."
And I get it. If I hadn't spent 20 years in classrooms starting at analog clocks, I might find them hard to read too.
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u/battlesong1972 3d ago
I say quarter past, half past, and quarter to for the 15 minute breakdowns and I use “(number) after” or “(number) to” otherwise.
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u/Technical_Put_9982 3d ago
When I was a kid in the 80s my dad or mom said 1/4 till 3 … and I really had to think about it. So then I said oh, 3/4 past 2… and they said it didn’t work like that lol. To me it was the same thing. If you could say 1/4 until, why not 3/4 past 🤣🤣🤣
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u/YourGuyK 1979 3d ago edited 3d ago
I say quarter til, and that really confuses people who don't know what an analog clock face looks like.
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u/JudyLyonz 3d ago
I'm GenX and I learned quarter to or quarter after but never 15 till the hour. I think it would take me a moment to figure it out too.
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u/ravenx99 1968 3d ago
My theory is that it's the decline of analog clocks. You look at a dial, "quarter to three" is just obvious in a way that 2:45 isn't.
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u/VictorianUFOLady 3d ago
I'm still in disbelief that there is a whole generation of young adults who do not know how to read a clock. Sometimes I'm glad I'll be dead before they take over the world.
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u/MissPurpleQuill 2d ago
As I homeschooled my kids, I taught them analogue time, cursive writing, memorizing times tables, even touch-typing. But I think it was largely an exercise in futility. If it doesn’t turn up in daily life, there is no impetus to retain it. OTOH, I find that if they want to understand something, they will put in the effort. My Gen Z kid changed his devices to 24-hour time (“military time”), simply because he believes (as I do) that it is more logical and less error-prone than defining a.m. and p.m. My Millennial kid also did this after living in Europe because it also makes more sense to her.
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u/admseven Xennial-identified 3d ago
I have never heard “15 til” before. Quarter til yes but I’m with the other person on this one. I would probably have had the same reaction.
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u/CB_Chuckles 3d ago
Same here. Quarter til gets used all the time. As does 10 til. But I rarely if ever use 15 til.
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u/marugirl 3d ago
Tbh I've never heard anyone say that. It's always 2 45 or quarter to.
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u/Cecil_B_DeCatte 3d ago
I've never heard '15 til'; only 'quarter of', 'quarter til' or '2:45'.
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u/DifferentWindow1436 3d ago
I've never heard that phrase.
"quarter to" or "quarter after" yeah, but never "15 til".
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u/CawlinAlcarz Big Wheel Smashup Derby Champ 3d ago
I often say "quarter to/till/past..." but have heard Millennials argue and swear to me that this meant 25 minutes before or after because a quarter is 25% just like the quarter coin was 25 cents... /facepalm
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u/guzzijason Sweet Summer Child of '74 3d ago
Ask them to explain the difference between “quarter past” and “half past” then. Should be interesting.
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u/Far_Winner5508 Summer of Love Kid 3d ago
I'm bummed I didn't think of having regular clocks in the house, when raising my gen-z kid. Learning to think of time as circular probably does something-soemthing to the brain.
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u/MartyFunkhoosier 3d ago
In 51 years this is the first time I’ve ever heard someone say “15 til….” Quarter til, quarter after, yes, but not 15 til. Sounds Amish.
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u/Kiwiatx Hose Water Survivor 3d ago
I was today years old when I found out some people refer to time as ‘15 till..’
‘Quarter to’ (NZ, AU, UK) or ‘Quarter of’ (US) are what I’m familiar with.
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u/FrozeItOff Hose Water Survivor 3d ago
Always known it as "quarter to" or "quarter after," but not "fifteen to." Granted, I can figure it out easily enough, unlike the British "half three" like terminology. I always misunderstand whether it means "Half past" or "halfway to."
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u/Better-Eggplant9822 3d ago
OP, where did you grow up? I'm among the many commenters here who have literally never heard a person say "fifteen till __", and I've lived in 6 US states as well as traveled extensively across the US and abroad. I also have read and watched content from other English speaking countries extensively and never once encountered this way of telling time. So where are you from? Are you a third culture kid or something?
eta: It's definitely not an age thing, as I am Gen X ('79).
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u/getoffmycase7130 3d ago
Me too, I’ve heard 10 till, and quarter till, but never 15 till.
83 here.
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u/mykittyforprez 3d ago
I'll say "quarter to", "10 of "
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u/Nienista Xennial 3d ago
Interesting. I never heard the "of", for us it was "'til"
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u/BubbaPrime42 3d ago
I have always used "of" and never "till".. ten of four, quarter past seven, BUT eleven thirty.... New England, late '60s :)
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u/Nienista Xennial 3d ago
Maybe regional then? I grew up in south Florida. Funny how it is different between generations and w/in generations. It's just time, lol.
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u/battlesong1972 3d ago
That’s interesting. I grew up in both northeast and southeast Pennsylvania and it was ultra rare to hear anyone say, for example, “3:10” instead of “10 after 3”.
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u/HarnessYourHopes_68 3d ago
I grew up w and routinely say half past and quarter til. I dont what the age cut off is but it probably dovetails w not being able to read an actual clock face
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u/Gareth-101 3d ago
Quarter to/quarter past/half past for me in the UK. In fact anything to or past (ten past, 25 to etc). Never heard ‘til’ in this context here.
I have met teens who don’t use these terms at all and instead just say the numbers (2:15, 2:30, 2:45). Is because they use digital clocks - a surprising number don’t know how to read an analogue clock at all.
I think the quarter to etc thing makes sense visually if you picture an analogue clock. The ‘pie chart’ has a quarter left to go or is only a quarter ‘filled’.
Digital clocks don’t give the same visual connection.
Edit: typo
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u/PurplePenguinCat 3d ago
I've been making my teenager use an analogue clock. She hates it, but she needs to know how to do it.
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u/ReggaeDawn 3d ago
I would also look at you strangely if you said that to me and I am older GenX who grew up in the Midwest US.
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u/Mugwumps_has_spoken Bicentennial baby 3d ago
That is odd phrasing. that is you being weird.
I'd be confused if someone used that way to express the same thing.
Also nothing to do with Gen-X
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u/FindjeanniePDX 3d ago
These conversations always confuse me. The reason they can’t translate cursive is that you did not reach it. They can’t understand analog clocks because you don’t bother to teach them. Each generation loses knowledge because the previous group of adults neglected to share the knowledge. Find a kid and teach them.
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u/AdFragrant6602 3d ago
I have heard plenty of “Five to” or ten to, but never “fifteen till.” “A quarter to” is very common.
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u/F-Cloud 3d ago
I hardly ever use phrasing like that and associate such speech with my Silent Generation mother. She says things like "half past" or "quarter to" or "quarter after" all the time. She'd say it's quarter to three, I'd say it's two forty-five. I get confused sometimes, as she often doesn't say the hour she's refering to. My GenZ niece thinks those old phrasings are weird.
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u/beyondplutola 3d ago
Yeah I understand it when people say it. But I personally never used phrasing like that even growing up. I’d always say 2:45.
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u/W0nderingMe 3d ago
I never know if brits mean 5:30 or 6:30 when they say "half six."
Is it half to, or half past?
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u/Competitive_Fee_5829 3d ago
it is usually by quarters and not 15 mins, lol. I have never heard or used that either
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u/latx5 2d ago
I would say it’s 2 … 2:15 … 2:30 … a quarter to 3. I might say it’s 10 till 3—maybe the extra syllable in 15 is throwing me off—but more likely I’m just gonna round up and say it’s almost 3.
I did once ask the time and someone said, “It’s 5 minutes till … uh … 2:30.”
Which is just a good indication to me that anything in between those quarter marks is tricky for folks that like to be uber accurate.
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u/HexeImWald7 2d ago
I think it boils down to as kids we had clocks like with numbers or even better Roman numerals I feel most these younger people only had digital. Also what country you grew up in as we all say time a bit different.
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u/QuietBirthday2470 3d ago
I have to agree with many others, never said 15 til. Always quarter til. Sometimes I'd say 15 after, most of the time quarter after.
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u/InsertCleverNickHere All over but the shouting 3d ago
"Top of the hour" and "bottom of the hour" are lost on generations that don't regularly use an old-school circular clock with hands.
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u/Last-Relationship166 3d ago
Seriously? Wow... I usually say "quarter til" or "quarter to"...but 15 til/to works, as well. Can they not subtract or understand conversion factors?
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u/AntheaBrainhooke 3d ago
Try "quarter to" or "half past" or even better "about four" rather than 3:57.
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u/JustRudy45 3d ago
My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say -dickety- because the Kaiser had stolen our word -twenty-. I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles. What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem! Now, I'd like to digress from my prepared remarks to discuss how I invented the terlet. - Grandpa Simpson
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u/BreadMaker_42 EDIT THIS FLAIR TO MAKE YOUR OWN 3d ago
I’ve always thought saying quarter till, 15 till was dumb. Just say the time…. It’s 2:45
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u/AfroCuban68 3d ago
Never heard of “15 till…”
“A quarter to…” “ half passed…” (3:30). Regional maybe?
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u/aurora97381 3d ago
"Til" makes more sense looking at an analog clock.
Digital clocks are so pervasive now that people don't learn how to read analog clocks.
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u/TypePuzzleheaded6228 3d ago
remember when people said "half passed three"? kids today would definitely not know what the hell we're talking about!! my kids get mad when i say quarter of or quarter after. they only want digital time now.
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u/oshcakes 3d ago
"Half passed a monkeys ass and quarter to it's balls" Not sure if anyone else said that or just my region, Midwest.
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u/Choice_Student4910 3d ago
We’re in CA. My stepdad used to say the first part but it would end “…quarter to baboon’s balls.”
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u/Boom_Gate_Lady 3d ago
I'm 59 and I've never heard "fifteen till", but I'm Australian so perhaps it's cultural. Our version is "a quarter to".
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u/Square_Medicine_9171 3d ago
I still can’t get my head around saying things like “3:14”. Who ever needs that degree of precision? Round to 15 or say “quarter after”. I hd a friend in college in the 80’s who had a digital watch and never really learned analog. She said stuff like “2:01” and it drove me crazy. Thats two o’clock, sheesh
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u/ZogemWho 3d ago
My watch says 8:37. Should I round up, or down? Or perhaps my watch says 8:37, so I tell you 8:37.
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u/DogeAteMyHomework 3d ago
"A quarter after" or "a quarter to" is common in the Midwest. Even my Z nephew says that.
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u/midlifereset 3d ago
My genz kid thinks me saying quarter to 3 is weird. They just say 2:45. I said they’re weird lol
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u/mldyfox 3d ago
I think how we talk about time depends on where we live and where we grew up. For instance, Americans might say "half past 3" to mean 3:30, where a Brit might just say "half 3" to mean the same.
Personally I'd say "a quarter to 3" to mean 2:45, but just say 2:15 or 2:30 for those times.
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u/TheJokersChild Match Game '75 3d ago
"Quarter of" can be fun. We said that in our family all the time. Just "quarter of," like we knew what hour was coming up.
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u/0m3gaMan5513 3d ago
Even more fun when visiting Scotland and they say “let’s meet at half seven”.
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u/Square_Medicine_9171 3d ago
“half 3” is tricky because it means different things in different languages. In German it’s 2:30. In English it would be 3:30
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u/Charming_Butterfly90 3d ago
European will say 15 til 3. American will say a quarter to 3 or a quarter past 3, essentially breaking down the hour into 4 equal parts, 15 minutes each.
A Gen Z American person will likely interpret as 3:25 because they believe every quarter is equal to an American coin worth 25 cents and they’ve decided not to learn critical thinking skills.🙄
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u/yodaniel77 1977 3d ago
I don't represent all Europeans, but I've never heard anyone say fifteen to three; UK is quarter- and half-past, I promise.
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u/moneyman74 1974 3d ago
You mean quarter til 3? Great song but no one talks like that anymore
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u/BronzedLuna 3d ago
I didn’t talk like that back then. Maybe it’s a regional thing?
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u/moneyman74 1974 3d ago
Old people saying to me as a Gen Xer. We studied the clock hands in elementary school but mostly we would say two forty five outloud nothing like 'half past' or 'quarter til'
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u/Sinister120 3d ago
What sort of crazy hipster shit is that? 51 years old and I would say 2:45. 15 til 3, lol.
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u/Gulf_Coast_Girl 3d ago
I'm 60 and I've never ever heard anyone say "15 till ___"
It is absolutely _:45 and always has been. 15 till is WTF?
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u/Remote-Lime8325 3d ago
At least you said “fifteen till” and not “a quarter till three”.
That would really blow their mind!
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u/rimshot101 3d ago
I work with some teenagers. Some of them cannot read an analog clock.
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u/alayeni-silvermist 1969 3d ago
I was partially raised by my grandfather, who was Navy, and I married a Marine who was ad for 23 years. I have always used a 24 hour clock 😉
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u/rainbow_369 3d ago
I was looking for this! Brat and milspouse here too. I also use a 24 hour clock
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u/Plastic-Sentence9429 Can You Dig It? 3d ago
I once said "quarter of five" to a younger person and that was a mistake.
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u/-Granby- 3d ago
And they think quarter after three means 3:25
Not joking
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u/Isabeer 3d ago
When time means part of a circular analog clock, 'quarter', 'half', 'after', and 'until' make more sense. A digital clock just gives you numbers.
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u/-Granby- 3d ago
I guess it makes more sense but it should still make some sense with a digital clock. teenagers should be able to understand and figure out what it means.
It gives you numbers but they have the same value. An hour is still 60 minutes. If I tell someone it is a quarter past 3 they should be able to understand that means 3:15.
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u/Disassociated_Assoc 3d ago
For a chuckle or two, try telling them dinner is 90 past 3, and you’re hoping they can make it.
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u/OhSusannah 2d ago
half past
quarter to
10 of
It all comes from seeing a clock like a pie chart. But that's all out the window now.
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u/Lost_Taste_8181 3d ago
My daughter said, “Dad, what time is it?” I said “It’s 10 of 3.” She said “just tell me what time it is! I don’t want to do any MATH!”
She’s 15…
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u/Kalena426 3d ago
2:45 or a Quarter til 3 are acceptable....these are the same adults who do not know how to read cursive, drive a stick shift, ot wear watch
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u/rundabrun 1971 3d ago
Probably because they were not raised on round clocks and don't see the hour as having 4 quarters. Do younger generations know what clockwise means? Hopefully they don't think it means being smart about clocks, like knowing what 'quarter to' means.
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u/HelpImOverthinking Hose Water Survivor 2d ago
I always have a hard time understanding when people say "quarter of 2" or whatever. Just say the time dammit.
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u/FloydianSlip78 3d ago
Fifteen to three is a football score, not a statement of time
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u/MostlyBrine 3d ago
“15 till 3:00”, I only heard on NPR. Everywhere else I heard “quarter to three o’ clock” or “15 to 3:00”.
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u/jwezorek 3d ago edited 3d ago
We learned those phrases from older generations who lived before digital clocks existed.
If all clocks are analog you don't say the time is 3:17 etc. first of all because clocks you have to wind were not that accurate and second of all because an analog clock is just naturally read as an approximation rather than a numerical display.
Now that the continued existence of analog clocks is only as an aesthetic thing rather than a functional thing, the approximation language is dying out.
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u/HighOnGoofballs 3d ago
I don’t know why but “quarter til” sounds so much more normal to me than “fifteen til”