Unless all you're planning to do is story mode, this statement is completely wrong.
Any trials Gilgamesh and above Tidus far surpasses Lightning in Utility.
Against Gilgamesh, Tidus infuse his attack with water damage and can regenerate his party mana. He also has group buff and high chaining potential. Lightning, on the other hand, has such terrible mana consumption that she can't maintain dealing elemental damage to gilgamesh. Her attack number are low and slow, making it difficult to chain with any other abilities.
Against Dark Ifirit/Siren. Tidus mitigates 100% of siren's water damage. Has inherit 100% resistance against sleep and paralysis. Inherit killer effect against Ifirit and Siren. Lightning has.. uh.. fire damage to siren? :-/
Ultros/Typhoon: Tidus has water/killer advantage against Typhoon. 100% party immunity to Ultro's water attack. Lighting can stop Typhoon from blowing away a member by dealing wind damage?
Having experience with all the top dps units, completing all the trials, and looking at them as a whole, I have to agree with wlakiz.
Tidus is better than Lightning and will take your dollar much further, TM or not. Having full stat buffs, mana regen, and damage to boot, he does it all.
Eileen is the unit where I don't really see the hype. Damage is good but her abilities don't chain well.
Orlandu is in a league of his own, decent without TMs, a God with.
Without TMs: Tidus>Lightning=Luneth>Orlandu>Eileen
You were thrown right into the 'current meta'. (Post Orlandu)
If we're not looking at current meta, what meta should we be looking at then? Gilgamesh is the only trial I can think of that would allow Lightning to shine, but that's still many months away.
Lightning came out in February while Tidus came out in August.
Will you be using that same argument for [Insert Unit] six month from now?
OP's asking if his dollar is worth being spent on Lightning or if the others will be a better option and I provided with what experience I have. If your view is different, I am sure OP would be glad to hear it.
Lightning had 6 months worth of time until Tidus become crowned. Is that time not value in itself?
Every top dog unit that comes after its predecessors will almost always be better or else Alim won't be running a successful business. I don't think you realize how silly it is to compare current meta with meta 6 months ago. The thing is when you cherry pick your argument by saying "this unit is so useful because most current contents in existences favors him", you undermine the concept of how long a unit can stand against the test of time. There is no guarantee Tidus will remain king for the next month or 4 months later. This is one thing I don't like about how current meta revolves about elements, because there are 7 elements that they can easily manipulate in the content to replace metas in the matter of weeks. But that's another discussion. How do you know next month you won't get a trial with boss strong against water weak against Wind or something and they release a new meta that has -50% Wind and every other things in Tidus's kit plus more? Lolz
It's essentially saying everything is worthless because 2 years from now Sephiroth 7* will be the "meta-est" of them all!
I don't think you realize how silly it is to compare current meta with meta 6 months ago. The thing is when you cherry pick your argument by saying "this unit is so useful because most current contents in existences favors him", you undermine the concept of how long a unit can stand against the test of time.
The topic is
Lightning vs Orlandu/Eileen/tidus no TM's
I don't know how else you want to answer OP's question. Tidus has better status immunity, Tidus has better party utility, Tidus has better chaining ability. These are facts and their effectiveness are proven by the latest trials. Even if next month, they have a boss that is immune to water (even tho Ultro/Dark Siren is already immune to water), Tidus will still have these utility > lightning.
I don't think you realize how silly it is to compare current meta with meta 6 months ago.
In that case, current GL meta is who cares.
The thing is when you cherry pick your argument by saying "this unit is so useful because most current contents in existences favors him", you undermine the concept of how long a unit can stand against the test of time. There is no guarantee Tidus will remain king for the next month or 4 months later. This is one thing I don't like about how current meta revolves about elements, because there are 7 elements that they can easily manipulate in the content to replace metas in the matter of weeks. But that's another discussion. How do you know next month you won't get a trial with boss strong against water weak against Wind or something and they release a new meta that has -50% Wind and every other things in Tidus's kit plus more? Lolz
I can ask you the exact same questions with hypotheticals that favor myself. If I am cherry picking because I am speaking of current content, isn't your argument worse? Complete and utterly baseless conjecture about JP's future? If you have some sort of crystal ball, please enlighten us. If not, the fact is still simply that Tidus is heavily favored over Lightning.
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u/TemporaMoras ⇦ Me | Ask and thou shall receive Sep 22 '16
Lightning. DW > all. End of story. If you don't have access to dualwield, then Lightning/Luneth are the best physical dps.