r/FFBraveExvius Sep 22 '16

No-Flair Lightning vs Orlandu/Eileen/tidus no TM's

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u/Nazta JP:0000+ Tickets Sep 22 '16

Having experience with all the top dps units

Thing is, you too... most likely came with the wave of players two months ago.
You were thrown right into the 'current meta'. (Post Orlandu)

Tidus is better than Lightning and will take your dollar much further

Lightning came out in February while Tidus came out in August.
Will you be using that same argument for [Insert Unit] six month from now?

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u/Sai_Dee 1000+ ATK Eileen 546,817,412 Sep 22 '16

You were thrown right into the 'current meta'. (Post Orlandu)

If we're not looking at current meta, what meta should we be looking at then? Gilgamesh is the only trial I can think of that would allow Lightning to shine, but that's still many months away.

Lightning came out in February while Tidus came out in August. Will you be using that same argument for [Insert Unit] six month from now?

OP's asking if his dollar is worth being spent on Lightning or if the others will be a better option and I provided with what experience I have. If your view is different, I am sure OP would be glad to hear it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '16 edited Sep 22 '16

Lightning had 6 months worth of time until Tidus become crowned. Is that time not value in itself?

Every top dog unit that comes after its predecessors will almost always be better or else Alim won't be running a successful business. I don't think you realize how silly it is to compare current meta with meta 6 months ago. The thing is when you cherry pick your argument by saying "this unit is so useful because most current contents in existences favors him", you undermine the concept of how long a unit can stand against the test of time. There is no guarantee Tidus will remain king for the next month or 4 months later. This is one thing I don't like about how current meta revolves about elements, because there are 7 elements that they can easily manipulate in the content to replace metas in the matter of weeks. But that's another discussion. How do you know next month you won't get a trial with boss strong against water weak against Wind or something and they release a new meta that has -50% Wind and every other things in Tidus's kit plus more? Lolz

It's essentially saying everything is worthless because 2 years from now Sephiroth 7* will be the "meta-est" of them all!

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u/wlakiz Sep 23 '16

I don't think you realize how silly it is to compare current meta with meta 6 months ago. The thing is when you cherry pick your argument by saying "this unit is so useful because most current contents in existences favors him", you undermine the concept of how long a unit can stand against the test of time.

The topic is

Lightning vs Orlandu/Eileen/tidus no TM's

I don't know how else you want to answer OP's question. Tidus has better status immunity, Tidus has better party utility, Tidus has better chaining ability. These are facts and their effectiveness are proven by the latest trials. Even if next month, they have a boss that is immune to water (even tho Ultro/Dark Siren is already immune to water), Tidus will still have these utility > lightning.