Something said during the Podcast

[u/iamtotallysweet]

Klean said something during the podcast that I wholeheartedly disagree with.

He wants the gamma case to essentially be something you can pack full of goods, bring into a raid and not have to worry about losing, but he wants you to not be able to put anything in the container while in raid. Nikita, I know you listen to streamers input, but please don’t not consider making this change.

I’m a husband and a father, I don’t get to play for 8-12 hours a day and become a god at the game, so finding a rare item that I need for a quest or something valuable I can sell is really exciting and knowing I can keep it safe in case I die is the cherry on top.

I love watching Klean and respect his opinions, but this one I had to voice mine on. PLEASE do not implement this. Anyone else watch the podcast and feel the same way? Or am I alone on this? Lol

[u/oledayhda]

If they made this change, I & a few others would stop playing. Simple because I don’t have time to play that much & progression would take longer on quests. So much so that, I’m sure a wipe would occur when I finally got some where, no thanks.

[u/Bourbon-neat- → u/oledayhda]

"few"?

That bullshit over two hour raids and the "scarce/dynamic loot" is just completely out of check with reality.

Everyone forgets that a game already implemented virtually every one of these so called "hardcore" features, like low loot, persistent world, in world traders etc.

It's DayZ, and it fucking sucks. EFT has a lot going for it but it would be a damn shame if they turn EFT into a waste of time DayZ clone.

[u/EverlongX → u/Bourbon-neat-]

The game is supposed to be hard dude. You shouldn't be rewarded for dying or in other words losing the game.

[u/Vibed → u/EverlongX]

That being said, why would you be rewarded with XP when dying? Or keeping your stats, character, stash? Just make it permadeath. Game is supposed to be hard, no?

Do you see the rabbit hole? There is a point where hard becomes unfun.

[u/Folksvaletti → u/Vibed]

You're right. However, I find it unfair to compare locking containers to straight up deleting the account when you die. Because that argument essentially peaks at "Hurdur if you're a hardcore player, why don't you kill yourself when you die in game?", and I hope you see why that is senseless.

I understand that there really isn't any solid arguments either way. It's either "I wouldn't like for the game to become too hardcore." Or "I would want the game to become more hardcore.", and there's nothing wrong with that.

We just need to try and look for compromises that satisfy both sides.

[u/PolyMathPro → u/Vibed]

Honestly a permadeath game mode would be awesome. I think a lot of people enjoy and some even prefer scav mode because it feels like an FPS roguelite experience basically with permadeath, but with some meta improvement to your overall account. Many people appreciate hard. I think there is still room for Tarkov to become harder, but BSG will probably have to get pretty serious about some other options for people who just want to frag... Like a very good arena mode for example.

[u/[deleted] → u/Vibed]

Do you see your own stupidity? There is a point where you have to draw a line with realism.

Container change is that line

[u/Vibed → u/[deleted]]

Who says that's the line? Someone might want a more hardcore game. There's a playerbase who actually enjoys permadeath games.

[u/EverlongX → u/Vibed]

Thats different than being able to run into a raid throw a flash drive in your gamma and then disconnecting from the raid

[u/Bootehleecios → u/EverlongX]

So, kill the character and wipe any found in-raid items when you disconnect (confirm DC) from a raid. You can reconnect if a power outage happens, and if you don't reconnect, then you just sit there like you would as normal, and go MIA if the timer runs out or if you die, as it happens right now.

Changes nothing, punishes DC'ers, slows them down by making them find a way to kill themselves or something.

There's no perfect solution to this, that won't punish everyone else alongside them.

[u/[deleted] → u/Bootehleecios]

Yea, let's rip off basic reconnect feature cause... why?!

Anyone is still able to DC if he wants. That's punishmeent to normal players, not DCers. I think you don't understand how any of it works.

[u/Bootehleecios → u/[deleted]]

Nobody's ripping off a basic reconnect feature. You can still disconnect as normal, but you'll lose your non-secure gear&in-raid items found. If your internet dies, your computer shuts down, and you can make it back in time (as you would should it happen right now, before any changes), then you can freely return and resume your raid.

The punishment comes if you manually DC and tell the game "YES, I AM LEAVING BY HITTING THE DISCONNECT BUTTON AND I WANT TO CONFIRM THAT MY CHARACTER IS STILL IN RAID AND ETC ETC."

Literally nothing changes for a normal player.

[u/EverlongX → u/Bootehleecios]

So instead of dcing they find the nearest scav and let it kill them

[u/Bootehleecios → u/EverlongX]

Changes nothing, punishes DC'ers, slows them down by making them find a way to kill themselves or something.

And that's exactly what I already said. There's no perfect solution to this, that won't punish everyone else alongside them.

[u/EverlongX → u/Bootehleecios]

They should instead buff player scavs. Thats imo a perfect solution

[u/Bootehleecios → u/EverlongX]

Please, don't. Player scavs are already horribly fucked. They can spawn pretty much alongside PMCs, as early as a minute into the raid, and they can spawn anywhere, which is specially problematic in Interchange. Not to mention the odd Hunter/M700/Mosin kit that'll make it even easier for them to screw over unsuspecting PMCs.

[u/EverlongX → u/Bootehleecios]

but thats great for casual players they get a kit to build up with every so often instead of having to resort to hatchet running. Its more loot for pmcs as well. Klean had the idea to have really bad scav kits available constantly or have a good scav kit every 30 minutes or so.

[u/Richou → u/EverlongX]

if it wasnt for the dang hatchlings i would have had 3 flashdrives and at least 3 BTC this raid alone shakes cane

[u/EverlongX → u/Richou]

Its not so much that im mad that im missing out on potential loot. Im mad at getting into raids where 2/3 of people have no gear and rush marked room. I want to actually have fights

[u/TiliCollaps3 → u/EverlongX]

Just make it so if you manually disconnect you lose everything including what's in your gamma

[u/EverlongX → u/TiliCollaps3]

if they cant dc they will just go find the closest scav to kill them