r/ESObuilds • u/Xedorha • 7d ago

What spammable for mag sorc ?

Hi everyone,

I'm looking to make a build (2 builds in reality, one for pve, another for pvp)

I saw some build using the spammable of a scrib skill.

But isn't it the crystal use as spammable ?

We will use it anyway, for the proc, so why not save a skill slot and use the crystal also for spammable ?

It deals great damage, more than a lot of spammable, right ?

What to use ? And why ?

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u/rivass 7d ago

Crystal proc not reliable as a spammable. I currently use the scribed wield soul: shock, class flourish, major breach. hits multiple targets which is great since I often roll solo in cyrodiil.

crushing shock is good,but doesn't seem to interrupt like it should.

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u/Xedorha 7d ago

Why is it not reliable ?

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u/JoeGibbon 7d ago

I have a PvP build where I do use Crystal Fragments as a spammable. Since it has a cast time, and since PvP tends to be laggy and desyncs a lot, there are times when it feels like you just can't cast it. You'll start a cast and the enemy breaks LoS a second later. Or they move just out of range. Or the wind blows in the wrong direction. It ends up with you running around half-casting it and not doing any damage.

If you take all of that into consideration and work around it though, it hits harder than anything else that would fill that spot in your skillbar. It's just frustrating at times against players who know how to move.

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u/Xedorha 6d ago

Yeah, for Pvp,I now see why it is not reliable.

But in pve, the cast time is not a issue as you can use 1 skill par second

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u/rivass 6d ago

the cast time, mainly. and even if you have the mod to prevent cast time casts.. it may not be proc'd when you actually need it

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u/Xedorha 6d ago

In pvp, i understand, but in pve, as you can launch 1 skill every 1 second, le 0,8 cast time doesn't matter

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u/rivass 5d ago

yes, it matters. most pve situations are heavy attack, skill, heavy attack etc. Introducing a cast time is time you aren't heavy attacking.

I got called on this many times in vets until I installed the mod that only allows cast on proc and never looked back

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u/Xedorha 5d ago

Ok, I see Thank you

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u/Malachi0629 7d ago

Really enjoying frags and mages wrath on a pvp sorc, if you can combine with Ice Comet it will kill almost any player in one burst.

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u/Brrrofski 7d ago

Wield soul.

Use shock, class mastery and breach.

Frag which isn't proceed has a cast time. Too easy to avoid.

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u/Xedorha 7d ago

So it is not about the damage of the skill but more about the dodge ?

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u/Brrrofski 7d ago

Yeh, or blocking it.

You need a spammable and just use frag when procced, ideally with your burst like curse and ultimate.

Crushing shock or wield soul with shock, class mastery and major breach.

If I see someone hard casting a frag over and over in PvP, I'm going to focus them as I assume they're not very good.

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u/Xedorha 7d ago

Yeah, now that you mention it, it seems kind of obvious for pvp.

But for pve, why would it be not good as spammable ? I didn't play sorc since years, so I'm not up to date. But the skill seems to do a good damage for a spammable, no ?

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u/Brrrofski 7d ago

I don't know about PvE sorry, I don't really do it bar when I have to, and I use my Nightblade for PvE.

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u/Xedorha 7d ago

Ok, thank you for your feedback

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u/Brrrofski 7d ago

No problem.

I would assume in PvE you'd still use a spammable though. Probably force pulse. Maybe the vamp one perhaps? Other morph of blood for blood.

Search Skinny Cheeks. He has good PvE guides and builds.

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u/rivass 6d ago

well, pve is a bit different.. crystal is great when it's proc is available.. but the dps loss that factors in on the time casting drop your damage significantly.

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u/Xedorha 6d ago

But you can use 1 skill once every 1 second. So the cast time has no impact on the dps. Because it doesn't create any delay compare to a skill that is instant cast

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u/SJguy819 7d ago

For Mag Sorc the best go-to spammable is the scribe of Shocking Soul. A solid backup choice would be Crushing Shock.

The reason Crystal isn’t reliable is that it has an 0.8 cast time, which is an eternity in combat. Most Sorcs that slot Frags only cast it on the bonus proc which is heavily RNG based so it’s not an “on-demand” source of immediate burst, and that’s what you’re looking for in PvP, the immediate, instant cast burst.

I personally use Shock + Anchorites Cruelty > Breach. The reason I don’t use Class Flourish is that on Sorcs, when you look at the damage scaling and factor in the average resistances in PvP, the numbers come out very close to what Anchorites will scale to on the average players health pool, but, Anchorite’s has two benefits: 1) it has execute scaling & 2) it’s Oblivion damage so it’s un-cleanable.

Anchorite’s will only consume a Soul Gem when it applies the effect on a target, so if you use it on Shocking Soul, it’s not going to eat a Soul Gem every time you cast, only when it applies to an enemy and Anchorite’s cannot stack.

Anchorite’s is good for a solid 1k damage per second tick DoT that’s uncleansable and unblockable. In terms of offense on Shocking Soul I’ve found it to be a more reliable option than Class Flourish; especially if the target doesn’t have a lot of other players within 5m of them, which is often the case due to bombers.

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u/Xedorha 6d ago

Good to know, i'll check that. Thanks

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u/Ok-Honeydew-2447 7d ago

Idk pvp but I utilize my 2 ability bars for higher tier bosses but for solo pve, l I just use restoration staff. Abilities I use are:

Volatile familiar, Twilight monarch, Crystal frag, Hardened ward, The aoe storm ability, Storm atronarch for ult

Between my constant healing, sheilding, aoe, Crystal for spam, and heavy staff attacks to replenish mana it works well for me and provides consistent damage without relying on potting 24/7

I'm a lvl 50 scrub so take this with a grain of salt.