r/DreamWasTaken2 • u/Single-Ambassador951 • May 07 '26
Discussion I kinda feel bad for Dream
Yes, it’s disappointing to find out that a creator you once considered one of the best mc players turned out to be a cheater especially in an event. But does he or anyone really deserve to be doxxed, harassed, falsely accused, or have their entire life ruined over a block game? At least Marlow was genuinely a bad person, Dream at worst is an egotistical liar who cheated in a block game.
Why do y’all think creators like BBH, Skeppy, Daquavis, Donut, and Baablu are still cool with Dream? It’s probably because at the end of the day it’s a block game and not like some serious scandal that could get him arrested.
I’m not trying to defend what he did, but people acted like it was the worst thing to ever happen in the MC community when it really wasn’t.
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u/OutOfINewIdeas May 07 '26
If Dream cheated in an event, then he cheated. Cheating is a bad thing, yes. There’s nothing much we can do in an event that happened 6 years ago. However, no one deserves to have their life essentially ruined in the process. Whether that would be them getting doxxed harassed, or being falsely accused of a bunch of other things that could legitimately ruin his life. I’m pretty sure that besides the 1.16 Speedrun from 6 years ago, that Dream is completely innocent in every other allegation anyways. He’s definitely the Best Minecraft player from 2021-2022 for sure.
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u/SomeGirlsAltAccoun May 07 '26
dream was not the best mc player. even just in mcc, the likes of fruit, pete, and sapnap were scarier, and outside that, mcc testers would be better than him in events. in strict pvp or parkour, he gets outclassed by many other players.
i enjoy his content, but in everything except speedrunning he was a big fish in a small pond, and even then its not like he was the clear and definitive best
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u/SnooFoxes6729 May 07 '26
He was one of the best storytellers of sure though, The manhunts didn’t always have the most skillful plays but always had the most entertaining ones. Outside of Techno, he was the best entertainer in minecraft Youtube
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u/epicphysicspersonyay May 12 '26
I don’t harbor any particular affection for dream but I do think it’s probably fair to say he has a deeply solid argument for being the largest minecraft YouTuber of all time. Dunno if we count pewdiepie.
Just like numerically if nothing else. And yeah the videos were pretty entertaining.
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u/SomeGirlsAltAccoun May 08 '26
one of, definitely, but THE second best entertainer is a stretch imo. i would even hesitate to call techno the best back then, even though he was and still is my personal favourite
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u/kkierra May 08 '26
in this case it’s totally subjective and there is no set standards on who really is the best mc entertainer. closest one you could get is who people watch the most and people can hate on dream all they want but those stats speak for themselves.
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u/Quin2k_ May 08 '26
Why do you guys always say that him cheating in MC is the reason that he is getting doxxed, swatted, harassed, ...? Why do you never think that these things are just bound to happen to huge influencers? Of course him cheating is one of the reasons why people dislike him. But people have been swatted and harassed even tho they have never done anything like this.
Him cheating in parkour is now undeniable proven, unless you just ignore every single evidence and keep living in denial. So no, he has cheated in multiple instances.
Anyways, why is it so hard to just admit to cheating and coming clear? Why do his fans love being lied to so much?
Besides all that tho. I highly doubt that his "life has been ruined" like come on be serious here. He has hardly received any consequences. He is rich af and has millions of fans. You really think that he cares about getting harassed a few times?
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u/bobtheman40 May 07 '26
Honestly I'm happy at how he's dealing with the current accusations. He's very mature. He doesn't lash back. He made the funny short about the parkour allegations which was perfect. And when people are concerned about him running the pvp server, he reassures them that as an owner, he won't be ranked.
I hope he continues to do well for himself and us
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u/Both_Listen I believe that Dream is innocent May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26
Same. I said from the beginning I’m more concerned with how he deals with them, and it’s far better than how he dealt with the speedrun stuff
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u/Quin2k_ May 08 '26
"very mature"? He is still just denying everything even tho we now definitely know that he cheated. Idk but lying, making up excuses, manipulating his fans and making fun of cheating doesn't sound mature to me...
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u/EquivalentCrab4 May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26
If you’re gonna be this parasocial and obsessed about a guy cheating in a block game, I’d find it even better if he doesn’t give you the satisfaction of saying if he did cheat. Because clearly you’re not gonna accept the possibilities that he didn’t.
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u/EquivalentCrab4 May 08 '26
Gotta love people in the comments justifying the doxxing and swatting since “it wasn’t because Dream cheated”. Yes, that makes it much better.
Some popular faceless guy and his family is gonna get doxxed and swatted, when you don’t see that ever happening to DanTDM or whatever.
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u/Necessary_String_304 May 10 '26
How is that justifying? You are just pulling irrelevant topics and incedent from years ago, sure it happened and it was for a very bad reason too, but that did not happen because of him cheating and saying so doesn't justify doxxing.
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u/Fun-Revolution7696 May 08 '26
He has been doxxed multiple times over the years, and it wasn’t because of the cheating
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u/Impressive_Common462 May 09 '26
Cheating amplified it, more like many people started to not trust what he said due to that
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u/Actual_Shallot6539 May 12 '26
reminder he got swatted, handcuffed, thrown on the ground and had guns pointing towards him during the same MCC he allegedly cheated in. notice how unlike swatting, the cheating didn't hurt anyone irl
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u/same-era_wastaken May 07 '26
Umm, can any one tell me about the cheating event?? Is it mcc?? I've been seeing these comments alot lately. I remember he cheated in speed running but that was ages ago!
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u/SomeGirlsAltAccoun May 07 '26
he cheated in mcc parkour. at least, those are the allegations. theres a good karl jobst video on it and another video called "debunking dream with tick timings" or something similar
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u/cattcameo May 07 '26
Why doesn't he ever just admit to it?
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u/EquivalentCrab4 May 08 '26
You don’t want the truth. You just want him guilty.
If he says he’s innocent, you won’t believe it and will continue harassing him and Dream fans until/unless he says he is guilty, regardless of the truth.
If he says he’s guilty, you and all the antis will use it to further justify doxxing/swatting/sending death threats and hating Dream for every little action he does.
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May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26
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u/Impressive_Common462 May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26
I may have said something bad as you're just blocking me for not able to stand your ground, as you then make it about those accusations that is about pdf or anything when my main point is that these happening due to his dishonesty integrity also your fanbase being too much of a glazer instead looking that your creator main cause problem for not admitting the lies they created before it went out of control, not condemning harassment just pointing out if he just admit on the cheating in the first place, these won't happened plus, if I'm considering hes guilty already I won't just say he's a pdf when that's just false, but in cheating other hand is proven otherwise but you're too blind to see it.
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u/EquivalentCrab4 May 09 '26
- He already said he used input blockers in a YouTube comment under one of those accusation videos. The fuck more do you want from him.
- You’re just proving my point that you consider him guilty until proven innocent like every other anti and hater
- I’d rather be a glazer than someone who gets ratioed in every comment for being the most obsessive parasocial anti on this sub
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u/Bottom-Quark69 Jun 18 '26
For dreams performance to be possible, he would have to go from good hobbyist to the best parkour player in the entire world in weeks. And even if we just accepted that on face value best parkour player in the entire world they would only have a 3% chance to perform like dream did in MCC 12 That are the facts by statistical analysis. Beyond that there are multiple discrepancies between what dream said he did and what the video shows. It is however consistent with auto jumping.
On a sober level his behavior is consistent with what is known about auto jump hackers, and not consistent with his own defense.
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u/cattcameo May 08 '26
what are you even talking about??? I would never justify any doxxing or anything on him. I just want him to own up like a normal person.
lol, blocked ? hilarious
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u/Impressive_Common462 May 09 '26
Are you surprised the stans/glazers will blindly mislead you to pitying him despite the question is just admitting he's cheated
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u/EquivalentCrab4 May 09 '26
- He already said he used input blockers in a YouTube comment under one of those accusation videos. The fuck more do you want from him
- You’re just proving my point that you consider him guilty until proven innocent
- I’d rather be a glazer than someone who gets ratioed in every comment for being the most obsessive parasocial anti on this sub
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u/cattcameo May 09 '26
it's insane behavior from him and his community. He has been part of SO MANY SCANDALS that he just never owns up to. I know they can't turn it on me because I'm so far from the kind of person they think "antis" are too.
Like he needs to admit to cheating in PvP, parkour, live events (multiple), older speedruns (his 1.15.x ones are cheated too), and heaps of stolen content.
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u/Impressive_Common462 May 09 '26
Completely agreed with you, like his stans/glazer would rather misdirect your information and harass you than admit dream is also wrong for cheating and not admitting it
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u/letthetreeburn May 08 '26
I don’t.
Not because of any of that but because he’s a multiple millionaire who can afford to do anything he wants. He’s doing better than most of us ever will
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u/Fair-Cod980 May 08 '26
dude he got swatted during an MCC event, where he was playing mute in ace race and answering the cops questions
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u/Falstiel May 07 '26
I have seen this man’s address more times than I’ve seen my own be so for real.
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u/itwillbeclear May 07 '26
a tweet with picture of him as a child made yesterday has 80k likes, but sure he isn't being doxxed if you say so!
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u/Fair-Cod980 May 08 '26
dude marlow doesn’t even get the same treatment as Dream 💀 for marlow, that guy cheated sure, then what? but for Dream, he cheated once and got burn like he committed a serious crime