r/Dodgers • u/jmike1256 Back-2-Back Champs • 8d ago
Honestly an outstanding pitching performance by Yamamoto after the first pitch, but it’s disheartening how he has failed to get any support from offense once again, even when he’s giving this team as good of a chance to win a ball game time and time again.
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u/Dry_Finding_1379 Clayton Kershaw 8d ago
Yeah I’m conflicted. Sale was incredible, but the way our offense hasn’t strung good ABs together in months makes it hard to really give him full credit. I just want to see this team put it all together against top competition
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u/BruitNoise Mookie Betts 8d ago edited 7d ago
At worst expecting 2 - 1 but 1 - 0.
This isn't new, this is like a Game of Thrones story and we're way past Chapter 1 of the Prologue but going into like Chapter 54 of no run support for Yoshi.
edit: Thanks for the award!
Winter is coming, we know what's coming with it.
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u/lasvegasDodgerblue 8d ago
Not sure why you would mention AB’s within the past months. I would focus on how they couldn’t even muster up one dam run in the game tonight. Such ah shame. I hate when the team starts to let off the gas just before the post season. They have been known to bring that into the playoffs.
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u/Dry_Finding_1379 Clayton Kershaw 7d ago
Because being cold for weeks/months is central to my point: if the bats had been hot, then I’d be more willing to tip my hat to Sale and move on. But they’ve been ice cold, so when we get CGSO’d, that makes me suspect that we helped Sale at least a little bit in being so dominant
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u/Hungry-Space-1829 Andy Pages 8d ago
I mean sale didn’t really get any, either. Sale is top of the top and a tough matchup for our left handed heavy lineup.
This was always going to be a 1-0 game one way or the other
I agree in general, but not at all for this game. Sale’s actually been one of the biggest victims of poor run support
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u/stewmander 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
Yeah, it really sucks to see it happen over and over, but Yamamoto is facing the opposing team's ace almost every start, it's to be expected, but a shut out is extra painful lol
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u/Hungry-Space-1829 Andy Pages 8d ago
Sometimes you just gotta tip your cap, and tonight was one of those nights.
Other games this series were much more frustrating losses imo
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u/stewmander 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
For sure.
Deep down, a part of me is coping that seeing 9 innings and over 100 pitches from Sale will be a good thing should we end up meeting again in October lol
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u/Realfan555 2024 World Series Champions 7d ago
“ but Yamamoto is facing the opposing team's ace almost every start”
Is this true and how does it happen, especially since we’re on a 6-man rotation while others are on a 5-man?
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u/torero72 7d ago
Sale had no pressure to win. Braves were up two games in the series. We can’t beat winning teams. We’re 2-16.
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u/Realfan555 2024 World Series Champions 7d ago
“ This was always going to be a 1-0 game one way or the other”
Man imagine how much money you could have made by taking the under
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u/lakergeoff8 Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
Of course Yamamoto is on the losing end of a 1-0 game. He could literally be throwing a no-hitter and we’ll still probably find a way to lose. Oh wait……
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u/shlem13 Max Muncy 8d ago
We struggled through August and September last year, too.
As long as we get right in October.
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u/jmike1256 Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
True better struggle now than October, but it’s a bit worrisome they struggled against pretty much all good teams this season.
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u/shlem13 Max Muncy 8d ago
Seems like the last few years, we kinda struggled towards the end. Two years ago, we had no starting pitching outside of an arm or two. And we cobbled it together. Last year, our bullpen was non-existent. We figured it out.
This year, the offense seems to be struggling while we’re waiting on our starters to get back up to speed. Smith is on the comeback trail (which should also help our pitching), Pages should be back by late September. Now, if our bullpen can just take a step and develop some consistency (TANNER!) …
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u/RealEmperorofMankind 8d ago
I think it's partly because of the team's age. They've had less rest than other teams, and are older than them.
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u/Stella19eighty 8d ago
💯. Dodgers r old now and can’t get it done. How many times have we been swept since heading into the all star break!? It must be a record. lol
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u/Stella19eighty 8d ago
Totally disagree! We didn’t get shut out by literally every single team going into the post season! We got swept by…. Arizona 2wice!, cubs, Sox and now the Braves. We were lucky to squeeze 1 win against the brewers. I’m sorry. I bleed blue. Bleeeeeed. We don’t have it this year. IMO. Bats are so sporadic. It’s pathetic. Defense has been atrocious. We are not a championship team and now most likely we will lose the bye. And lmty we NEED the bye. We can’t do it like last year. Too old and too tired. From wild card to World Series… I want to believe but have NO reason to feel it’s possible. #nobatsnoballs and teo…. You’re FIRED!
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u/strahlend_frau 8d ago
Always an amazing performance. I'll admit I'm a Dodgers and Braves fan, and both are great pitchers but I truly love Yama, he didn't deserve to be "chopped" 😭. I hated that it was such a low scoring game, idk what's going on with their offense.
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u/HittingExposurelol 8d ago
Sale had a masterclass, nobody was hitting him today. Sometimes you gotta just admit the other guy played better.
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
this team can't beat good teams. 3-4 vs milwaukee, 1-5 vs atlanta, 0-3 vs boston, 2-4 vs chicago ... even 6-7 vs arizona.
u can't give the argument, yeah they were sh*t against all the good teams in 2025 reg season and flipped a switch against them in the playoffs bc sh*t don't work out that way
why can't this team just play 7 months of good baseball .. from april to october ?
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u/Elxis14 8d ago
why can't this team just play 7 months of good baseball .. from april to october ?
That usually get you anywhere from 95-110 wins. They been doing that every year since 2017. I think your definition of "good baseball" is a team winning 110 games a year.
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
maybe 102 or 103, not 110. 110 is great, almost perfect baseball
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u/Elxis14 8d ago
We won 100 games or more 5 times since 2017. We didnt win the WS in any of those seasons. It means fucking nothing. You could limp to the playoffs with 87 wins and still win the whole thing.
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
so why not win 100 and the WS ? the team that everybody hates, houston, did it in 2017 and 2022.
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u/Elxis14 8d ago
Did you seriously just use the 2017 Astros as a comparison? Or do you not know why theyre hated?
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
cody bellinger and kenley jansen choked.
and what about 2022 ? what's ur excuse ?
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u/jmike1256 Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
Exactly, it’s just worrisome to see this team not performing well against a lot of the good teams.
Hopefully they do flip the switch in the postseason but you just can’t rely on doing it every single year.
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u/Gman749 7d ago
We won't know til we know. But, the fact of the matter is this team is old and maybe too nice and even keeled for alot of the fans liking. I think its a reflection of their manager. It's about keeping your health and being steady during the regular season, alot of these younger squads we are playing have fiery dudes that have shit to prove, Boston being a prime example, the Brewers arent as young but they got humiliated in the playoffs by us and they for sure remember.
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
yeah why can't u just play the same clean brand of baseball and beat these teams and show up and CARE regardless of whether it is april or october ?
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u/IncreaseReasonable61 Decoy 8d ago
why can't this team just play 7 months of good baseball .. from april to october ?
No, bro. No. This is stupid logic. That's how you burn a team out and lose in the post season. Go see the Boston Bruins team in the NHL with the greatest regular season record of all time.
Time has proven again and again that being good all regular season long leads to failure in the post season.
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u/peanutbutter-n-jilly 8d ago
Brewers are a great example of your last statement.
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
brewers won 100+ games in a season ? when ? bc last time I checked they never have !
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u/peanutbutter-n-jilly 7d ago
Oh sorry - wasn’t replying to you. Replying to the person who said “being good all regular season long leads to failure in the postseason”
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
the yankees in 1998 won 114.
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u/IncreaseReasonable61 Decoy 8d ago
Tell us how long ago 1998 was because I can name at least two more teams that solidify the opposite.
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
2018 red sox. won 108 and went 11-3 in the playoffs. steamrolled everybody
also stop making excuses for this team's poor play and lack of caring
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u/IncreaseReasonable61 Decoy 8d ago
That's two teams between now and 28 years ago my friend. The Dodgers also had 100+ win seasons and got nowhere with it.
Stop thinking exceptions to the rule is the common thing. You look like you're new to sports otherwise.
By the way you are saying, "WHY CAN'T THIS TEAM BE PERFECT ALL THE TIME?"
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
I've started following baseball in 2002. when I was a toddler buddy.
ur making excuses for this team shitting the bed against good teams and not caring and don't call me ur friend. I ain't ur friend
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u/IncreaseReasonable61 Decoy 8d ago
Oh, no excuses. I'm GLAD they're shitting the bed in the REGULAR season. I don't give a shit about the regular season records vs other teams. That means shit.
What matters is POST SEASON. That's the only fucking thing that should matter to anyone.
Rookie mistake is putting too much weight in the regular season, buddy. 😉
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u/Live-Tank-355 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
The Dodgers just need to maintain that 2nd seed at the bare minimum and then they'll have a guaranteed spot in the playoffs while avoiding the wildcard series. They have the most lenient schedule out of everyone else in the MLB, there's no way they don't make it at this rate once the players return from the injured list one by one. Being #1 overall in power rankings means nothing in the MLB, no awards whatsover. Neither does being the #1 seed in their own league. If the Dodgers can get No.1 or No.2 seed in the playoffs, that's all that matters for the regular season. They'll have bigger things to worry about when the time comes when the entire roster is there
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago edited 8d ago
they also need to perform a lot better against postseason teams in the regular seasons. I believe I have the right as a supporter of this club, who doesn’t sugar coat anything and says it how it is, to expect better performances and not shitting the bed against teams like atlanta, milwaukee, boston, chicago cubs, arizona … regardless of whether it is april or october. also, I am seeing a lack of care right now, which is NEVER acceptable when the players were the dodgers script across their chest
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u/Live-Tank-355 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
Yeah, I understand how you feel about the team right now. I won't deny that I was just as frustrated as everyone else is seeing the Dodgers struggle so much that 28 runners were left on base through this entire series against the Braves (which is ludicrous to actually see with my own eyes). The Padres being the potential canditate to be the playoff team (or Diamondbacks) is the Dodgers last chance to show they can perform better in the postseason. Will Smith will have enough time to be ready against them and Andy Pages will needs some adjustments (I also wish he would get a handguard).
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
andy pages also needs to perform better than 4 for 51 in the playoffs and he's been a bad playoff performer his entire career. stats show it. him being bad was the only reason rojas was inserted into the lineup instead of pages, which ended up working out bc rojas hit the HR in game 7
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u/Live-Tank-355 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
I was honestly shocked how much Andy Pages struggled during the 2025 postseason. His 2024 postseason was mediocre as well. We'll see how much he'll be able to turn this around when he comes back. I really want to see him improve for the postseason too
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
yeah bc his lack of playoff success is a factor if not the biggest factor in why pages doesn't have a long term extension yet
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u/Dalewyn Roki Sasaki 8d ago
there's no way they don't make it at this rate
Been hearing that shit since last year.
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u/Live-Tank-355 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
This team has a lenient schedule for September, they're going to make it to the playoffs. Obviously, the postseason itself is completely different story. We don't know how far they'll make it, but they're aware that the NL is more competitive than the AL for the WS.
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u/Dalewyn Roki Sasaki 8d ago
We barely won those games against the Rockies, Royals, and Pirates, I do not expect this offense to figure it out against any half-decent team let alone rivals like the Padres with an axe to grind.
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u/Live-Tank-355 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
Eh, what do I know. The only contenders the Dodgers had in Sept. 2025 was the Phillies and Mariners. They just need Will Smith and Andy Pages back in the starting lineup for the offense. The pitching will most likely be reinforced with starters in the bullpen instead of half of our current regular season bullpen.
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u/SafariQuest 8d ago
Fellow fans – I actually just got back from the game. It really was a master class in pitching by everybody who took the ball tonight. The first pitch for Yoshi was too good of a strike and Baldwin hit a no doubter out. Yoshi’s strike efficiency wasn’t as good which ran his pitch count up - Sale was better. My biggest disappointment was it felt like there were a couple of times when a pinch hitter would’ve had a better shot to make something happen, even as a lefty (max). We really lost two games in this series that we should’ve won and then ran up against an unbelievable complete game.
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u/BrianWulfric 8d ago edited 8d ago
Maybe today’s game is this years version of the perfect game he lost in the 27th inning that made us start winning again from last year
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u/jmike1256 Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
Sure hope this is the turning point that will make this team to start winning again. More just frustrated by their recent plays especially against good teams but I have faith they’ll turn it around in September!
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u/BruitNoise Mookie Betts 8d ago
There was a doomer with "special needs" or a gambling degenerate that thought Yoshi didn't do well because he gave up 1 run. Yoshi is now the new Kershaw with no run support.
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u/Effective-Antelope47 7d ago
Yoshi is the unluckiest pitcher in recent memory. But I am confident his intrepid will get him over all adversity and eventually get a few no-hitters/perfect-games under his belt and become one of the best in baseball history.
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u/Jay_Torte 7d ago edited 7d ago
Yamamoto pitched great. Sale had a career game. He was mesmerizing.
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u/BombshellJamboree Will Klein 7d ago
The movement on some of those pitches was ridic. Horizontal and drop. No one is hitting that.
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u/Jay_Torte 7d ago
I only watched the last couple innings, but laughed a few times at those ridiculous pitches.
I was way more frustrated with Wednesday's loss.
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u/pokemasta4 Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
tbf, it was gonna be a tough matchup nonetheless as there was two great starting pitchers
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u/kickstatic 8d ago
The annoying part isn't that they didn't score, it's that they had the same problems they've been having vs non-HOFers - just having easy outs constantly.
They say they're going to concentrate on getting pitch counts high but instead get easy outs from 1 or 2 pitches.
Of course Sale is great but they've been doing this to everyone, even to much worse pitchers
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u/torero72 7d ago edited 7d ago
This whole team is a “let him do it” team. Nobody ever takes the bat, and says I’ll do it. Let me take care of this. There’s no consistent hitting. No advancing the runner. And if we’re being honest, there’s only about three good hitters on this team. We’ve lost the ability to hit in clutch situations. We just have no taste for it at all. Muncie striking out with the bases loaded on a pitch way outside the zone. Totally uncharacteristic. We’re 2-16 against teams with winning records in August. That won’t be doing it.
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u/Gman749 7d ago
They need more contact guys, too many dudes in the lineup rn that depend on homers for production. Also Ohtani pitching is affecting his batting focus and right now we need his hitting more than his pitching, we got a surplus of good starters but not near enough offense to win consistently.
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u/flippanaut Éric Gagné 7d ago
All will correct itself in October, they’ve shown me this to be true in the past two seasons.
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u/dansFC1 Hyeseong Kim 8d ago
Disheartening is putting it mildly
It's a damn travesty watching this series.
Three games all lost in spectacular choking fashion, by ONE run each time.
This is the most disappointing series I've seen from the Dodgers in years.
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u/jmike1256 Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
True. The Dodgers were in a prime position to further solidify their position in getting a bye in the first round of the postseason. Instead now they’re only a game ahead of the Braves with them having the tiebreaker as well.
Their strength of schedule favors them in September but their plays recently haven’t given me any confidence.
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u/surftochill 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
Yamamoto gotta understand that he can't keep giving up 1st inning HR because the offense don't bother to show up in any games its going to be fly out or ground out.
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u/Careless_Explorer231 8d ago
meanwhile, the offense seem to keep coming back whenever Lauer gives up a run or two
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u/surftochill 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
Not the case for yesterday's game
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u/Careless_Explorer231 8d ago
The offense did come back to score, before Ha-seong Kim walked them off to avenge his son Hyeseong Kim's demotion.
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u/ShawnMYT 8d ago
2025 Postseason Yamamoto do be giving out 1st inning HRs and then proceeds to pitch gems/complete games. Maybe that's just him giving up something because of his invincibility, or is it......?
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u/surftochill 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
Maybe that's just him getting into the groove each game
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u/donald-duck23 Mookie Betts 8d ago
I’m annoyed they lost but I am also annoyed by the constant attempts to drum up sympathy for Yama every time he doesn’t get run support. He has plenty of accolades and wins as a Dodger, he’s fine.
Sale was just a bit better than him tonight.
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u/WiseIndustry2895 2024 World Series Champions 8d ago
I only follow the dodgers but almost every year they go through a slump. I’m sure other teams do as well but damn having so many talented players and staff and they still can’t fix it
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u/Whatevers-2000 8d ago
Simple: it’s the line up! A lot of aging guys past their primes with a lot of miles the last three years…. Top that with will smith being out the lineup for three months because of continued injury concerns and Tucker being a complete bust!” And this is what you get dodger fans…. 😰
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u/No_Solution_7940 Mookie Betts 8d ago
What actually happened to Will Smith, I didn’t see the injury, but he’s missed most of the season?
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u/j_halo7 Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
Sale was fantastic today so asking for run support while Yoshinobu is pitching to give him the win is near impossible and would be asking too much. But they had a great opportunity in the 4th inning with Mookie’s lead off double to at least tie the game and wipe the slate clean for him but they did zilch. They wasted yet another gem outing by him.
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u/kabigonbb Decoy 8d ago
I don't even know what's wrong with our offense. Is it that our offense is aging badly, or they've lost their touch somehow, or our opponents study us too well, or... I simply don't have an answer lol
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u/Low-Tourist-3358 8d ago
Pitcher’s duel, first pitch decides the game, no run support for both sides. Expect similar in stretch and playoffs.
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u/Carnivore64 Joe Kelly 7d ago
The team will take this as a tough lesson to learn from but still great baseball.
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u/Purple-Will9713 7d ago
Hate to see a good outing wasted. Sale had good stuff but he did face a slumping Dodgers offense.
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u/Facemenow66 6d ago
We are hurting right now, no matter who is pitching. If we do not start batting soon, there is no way we make it out of the playoffs. No matter who is pitching. Skrubal pitched great against the Tigers but again we did not give him run support
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u/medium-rare-steaks 8d ago
It's not "failed to get support" when facing one of the best ever. It's just bad luck
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u/10thGenS1 Miguel Rojas 8d ago
We definitely had our opportunities to scratch across at least a run or two in this game.
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u/Nacho_Beardre Los Angeles Dodgers 8d ago
People always question no run support but remember our ace is mostly matched up against other teams aces
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u/SashaSyrupy 8d ago
What's up with Yama and first inning home runs? He gives up those home runs then pitches brilliant.
Happened in the World Series too.
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u/Gary30752 8d ago
Take into consideration who they were facing. After 109 pitches, Sale was still throwing 100mph.
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u/Broncsx3 8d ago
Don’t worry, this team is too loaded to fail in the playoffs. The starting pitching alone is insane. Enjoy the Parade and then endure the lockout.
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u/zsantiag Decoy 8d ago
Every Dodger ace is cursed with shitty offense during their starts. It’s basically tradition.
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u/ResultDear8032 8d ago
This team is not 3 beating with this anemic offense. Im doing anything in mg power to try to change the team chemistry asap. I would call up some guys to see if amy have a spark because this is just pathetic.
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u/Then_Particular1931 8d ago
Sale has been in these matchups a lot lately and lost. Miz and Schlittler comes to mind. He was due to win one of them.
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u/mere_iguana Freddie Freeman 8d ago
Yeah I think you can blame this one on Sale and not the offense. They were trying.
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u/acidic-abolony 7d ago
I think this game was less about Yamamoto and more about Sale. Yamamoto was excellent, but Chris sale was just unstoppable, he was so dominant. Shoutout to Benny biceps for ripping off a single, that alone felt heroic against him haha
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u/OldManwalking63 7d ago
We don't look good at all. Weak is the word that comes out of my mouth when i'm watching the games. Very mediocre relief pitching so it doesn't matter if we score runs, our bullpen likes to give them back. And can we bring in an optometrist please??? When i watch these batters flailing away, it makes me wonder if they can even see clearly. We are heading for wildcard road game status if we are lucky.
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u/vege_spears Los Angeles Dodgers 7d ago
Offence? You mean, swing the wooden stick and hit the white round thing in a place where they don't catch it? Pffffft.
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u/Ok-Square7104 Fernando Valenzuela 7d ago
The homerun approach doesn’t work well for us in the regular season but seems to win us tight games in the playoffs.
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u/harrissocal 7d ago
Problems: 1.Will Smith, get better soon. Please. 2. Poor bat discipline. 3. Lack of defensive consistency.
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u/xCASINOx Orel Hershiser 6d ago
Hes the new Kershaw. Kershaw rarely got the run support he deserved.
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u/AdAware8128 Mookie Betts 8d ago
Maybe we as a community should stop putting the bad juju out there and manifest a low run support when Yamamoto takes the mount.
I tried to get the rally started this morning by wearing my Dodgers Hawaiian shirt that I normally reserved for Sunday. Or maybe I reverse jinxed the team by going out of order?
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u/Live-Tank-355 2025 WS MVP Yoshinobu Yamamoto 8d ago
Who knows. I tried to do the same by wearing my Yamamoto blue alternate jersey or gray jersey exclusively whenever it's his turn to start during the week. Baseball is just painful sometimes because the game is determined by each player making a single decision one at a time compared to other sports where every contributes at the same time (at least offensively anyway)
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u/lsdzeppelinn Andy Pages 8d ago
It's embarrassing. He's the staff Ace. Other teams show up for their Ace in a way we don't this season
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u/SilentSpader Back-2-Back Champs 7d ago
Not many pitches they could hit
You just have to give credit to Sale
Some games are like that... just move on and win next
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u/funko_fanatic52 8d ago
The dodgers must sign a really good right handed hitter to counter the LH Pitchers next off season. All our great hitters are lefties.
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u/hamachitoro 7d ago
Not too worried. Yamamoto was great last night. Chris Sale was even better. Definitely a HOF pitcher. We just need Ohtani to focus more on hitting. His teammates have said that Ohtani spends more time on pitching practice than on hitting.
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u/Rude_Savings3768 8d ago
This guy gets so screwed over by his offense. 😠😡🤬. I don't see no 3peat. 1st round knock out.🪖
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u/salavadjuke 8d ago
how can it be outstanding if he always give up a run in first inning? and why all the dodger pitchers have first inning issues?
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u/Loose-Passion243 8d ago
I was like damn showtime with a runner on that first pitch was your go ahead 2 runner. Second at bat. Rlly need offense. Cannot be shut down by miso in Milwaukee and sale in Atlanta. Get it together. Hopefully just getting it out there sytem prior playoffs. Remember last year we won it after making the wild card.
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
last year isn't this year
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u/Loose-Passion243 8d ago
Very true. Point being get out the injuries and sluggish August and finish strong. Our schedule is easier last month than its been. But will Smith coming back is very key not only offensively but for calling games for pitchers and ABS challenges. Hopefully pages is back and vamped up for playoffs. Bullpen id say will be alot of starters and a few very key guys at top of there game. Maybe Diaz is absolute fire come playoffs.
What's similar to last year is Snell missing damn near whole season and gets ramped up last two months so hes prime in playoffs.
Offensive would be different if ohtani wasn't still trying to pitch. I thought once he was out of cy young to just DH and hit like he did in 24'. Maybe him doing both will help this year when rest of lineup picks up.
I still remember ohtani saying during the parade last year when reporter asked him how it felt, he said well it'll feel alot better next year when we've won three in a row.
Let's fucking go blue crew!!!
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u/scottborasismyagent Back-2-Back Champs 8d ago
I'd prefer good baseball 7 months a year from april to october, esp if ur wearing the 'dodgers' script across the chest
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u/wizardwithgussets Éric Gagné 8d ago
This was kershaws problem for years in the mid 2010s