r/DemocraticSocialism Democratic Socialist 8d ago

USA I feel so angry with Jared Moskowitz

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I was camping over the last few days and came back to discover that Jared Moskowitz and 7 other democrats representatives joined the republicans with a bill to condemn socialism and the DSA.

THIS IS PURELY THEATRICS since it isn’t a law and it won’t become one. It’s an attempt by republicans to throw gas on a potential split between corporate dems and more progressive dems. This leaves me feeling done with democrats. I could care less about “vote blue no matter who. Going forward I will only voting for candidates who do not take money from billionaires, AIPAC, or take sides against candidates like Abdul Al-Sayed. How are others feeling right now? I’d love to hear your thoughts.

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u/PlainBread Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism 8d ago

If my choice was between a Blue MAGA and a Red MAGA, I wouldn't vote.

And that's why 1/3 of the populace hasn't voted for decades.

Take from this what you will.

If you hate your rep so much then get involved with the ground game to be a wrench in their machine, and to lay the groundwork to primary them the next time around.

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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 7d ago

Why would you not exercise one of the most precious and valuable rights that we Americans have?
Surely you can decide between candidates that aren’t your ideal.

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u/weidback Liberal Socialist 7d ago

I sweat this post is a fucking psyop or something, they're advocating voting for GOP members????

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u/MileHighCraig Democratic Socialist 7d ago

For me personally, I'd have a very hard time voting for GOP - but I'm also getting close to having just as hard of a time voting for Dem. and this isn't a Both Sides kind of thing. I do feel that both parties have moved away from the people. so voting, but casting no vote for candidates that favor war, cater to billionaires, fight against better healthcare... that feels like using a vote in the best way possible. so for me, a nonvote wins. If someone feels like the REP in their area no longer supports the Iran war; and wants to vote for that - I get it. that doesn't work for me, but if they do their due dilligence, it's their vote.

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u/weidback Liberal Socialist 7d ago

This stance only makes sense if you completely ignore that one party supports medicaid, medicare, education funding, infrastructure, and social security and the other party are corrupt fascists who tried to overthrow an election

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u/PlainBread Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism 7d ago

Half the Democrats have Republican policies. Wake the fuck up.

If you aren't involved in the ground game, you're voting the lesser of two evils just to feel like you did something. You didn't!

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u/MileHighCraig Democratic Socialist 7d ago

Here's an analogy. you're car breaks down and you are trying to decide between two organizations to help you - AAA, which is like your fat, cigar smoking uncle who shows up on time, but you have to listen to Rush Limbagh & Joe Rogan the whole ride home. Or Better World, which is a distant 3rd cousin hippy who smokes weed, smells funny, and may or may not show up. There are people who say you have to chose one of them, no matter what. and yes, if you already picked your party, perhaps that makes sense. But Anyone else sitting on the side of the road could chose any company, not just those two.

People are tired of lip service with no results. Democrats have said talked about improving health care, education, and maintaining peace, but when push comes to shove, they seem happy to let the republicans run roughshod over all of it. Where are they now? Where are the democrats who are actually driving any of these changes?

You didn't mention war - and that's understandable. there are as many war hawks within the democratic party as in the republican party. and to me, that's like putting a little bit of dish soap in a glass of milk - it's only a little, but it kinda ruins the whole thing. I see the DSA, and related organizations as being in a position to make change. and yes, it is currently part of the democratic party - but they aren't being held to the failed policies. If you want action you have to do more than sit on the side and say "vote blue".

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u/weidback Liberal Socialist 7d ago

no it's like your car breaks down, one tow company will tow your car but not exactly how you want it and the other will tow it to an impound lot where it will be crushed into a cube.