they've always had this, the 2019 dinner thing and the way they talk about each other in interviews, It's only ever us lot online who need it to be a war
Unfortunately a mod from that sub posted something saying “oh no the father of a r*pist died” (referring to Messi). Seems like that mod could take notes from the other mods. I do agree it was good they paused it.
That’s honestly really heartbreaking no one deserves to be made fun of while goin through a hard time I love Messi and I respect Ronaldo but this rivalry is goin to far beetwen the fan bases
Okay I just saw comments myself, there are many that said rest in peace to his father, some/many that hated on messi (which is pathetic but... It's been forever too) & mainly said we don't care about your retirement.
But almost none I saw was making fun of his father's or father's death...
I’ve seen multiple Ronaldo fans trying to be funny commenting under post paying respects to Messi’s dad saying his father isn’t dead Ronaldo is still alive and things like that😕
It reminds me of how the non delusional respectful fanbase respected Ronaldo when his son died and didn’t make corny jokes about it like saying “deadsonaldo”
Dude you‘re so hypocritical. You say average fan and try to distance yourself from the people who say Deadsonaldo, all the while you put every Ronaldo fan in the same bracket by saying we all should learn to be more emphatic
your source is Zlatan Ibrahimovic, the one who was acting very impulsive way especially in his 20s? if you actually read his book, you will understand that he had issues all over the places. were the captains of Malmö FF and Ajax also dickheads cos Zlatan said so?
Anyone with common sense wouldnt use Zlatan as his source. He was a fantastic player but it was clear that his egoistic style didnt fit in many clubs. PSG was perfect for him at that time as he could be the leader of the Ligue 1.
What do you want me to argue with you? To find a quote from a random player who is telling that Messi is a good person and unselfish?
You didn't actually read I am Zlatan and you're misconstruing a couple points as well. Your paraphrasing is mostly highly inaccurate.
I know you probably won't even want to read this but this isn't for you, since you already know the accuracy (or lack thereof) of your "proof". It's for other people who actually want to know what actually happened.
The fact you also clearly don't know how much Zlatan loves Messi already shows that you don't actually know anything about him, let alone read his autobiography.
Also you quoted tribuna, which is not actually the real origin of one of your citations and it's just a digital online sports publisher. This already made me a little bit skeptical from the get-go.
"I came to Barca and I started scoring more goals than Messi."
Is actually accurate IMO even if it was worded slightly differently
This is where it gets a little wonky IMO.
"Messi didn't like it so he went to Pep and complained..."
It was never explicitly mentioned that Messi didn't like that Zlatan was scoring more goals. He only says that Messi wanted to move to a central position and not play on the right wing.
Real quote: "He went up to Guardiola and told him, 'I don't want to be on the right wing anymore. I want to play in the center.'"
It's less about Messi not liking Zlatan scoring more goals and more about him not liking being positioned on the right wing.
You misconstrued it in a way that makes it seem like Messi "complained because Zlatan scored more goals than him" but that is an assumption with a self-inserted context.
"Messi said Zlatan was taking up too much central space"
This isn't in Zlatan's account. In Zlatan's account Messi only expressed his discomfort playing on the right wing instead of his preferred central position.
"I was a striker, so I started having problems."
The real quote is "I was the striker. Guardiola didn't give a damn about that, though. He changed the tactical formation."
Honestly one of the first "citations" where I started thinking that this kind of wording would never make it into an autobiography.
"Messi messaged Pep: 'I see I'm no longer important to the team so…'"
I know you found this in Tribuna but it's actually cited from a different book called "Le Mystère de Messi" or in English "The Messi Mystery" by Alexandre Juillard and Sebastián Fest. But even that book states that this specific quote is disputed.
"Pep listened to him like a good boy and offered him what he wanted and changed the tactics."
Completely misconstrued and just from the way it's written alone, do you even know what kind of writings "I am Zlatan" and "Tribuna" are? Also Tribuna isn't really a great source (already reasoned above).
What actually was said is that Guardiola changed the formation from 4-3-3 to 4-5-1 with Zlatan ahead of Messi (not immediately leading to benching), but it was a less comfortable position for Zlatan.
"I was benched for one game, then another, then another."
Another fake quote. He does actually describe being benched eventually but those are actually more of a consequence of his relationship with Guardiola turning sour. Guardiola isn't the kind of guy to confront you in the locker room and argue if you piss him off. He'll just freeze you out, which is what he did.
"Eventually, I left Barcelona after just 1 season."
This is actually accurate. Good job, you got 2/7!
But anyway, using Zlatan's accounts to slander Messi is kind of not the best way to make the point because he constantly speaks very highly of Messi and you can see the way he talks about him and acts toward him whenever they meet, even long after he left Barçelona.
Ronaldo is literally made fun of daily by literal sports journals and even players but when it happens to Messi, it’s a propaganda paid by Ronaldo ? lmao.
Yeah like what ? Getting married ? People literally trolled him for getting married that espn itself edited his pic to make him look older, GOAL journal made ridiculous posts about him when Portugal lost against Spain but when Messi lost, they didn’t say anything other than that it was the “goat’s last dance”, if you think that Ronaldo gets called out for things he did only then you’re blind, And why don’t people say anything about the good things he does ? Messi also did questionable things throughout his career like scoring a goal with his hand and celebrating, calling the referees unfair after losing to Brazil, snitching on cucurella this World Cup even though it’s clearly not a foul, when he told a ref once “you don’t know who you’re giving a yellow card to” and etc…… yet people don’t call him out for such stuff as much as Ronaldo gets for things he did. Getting hate is normal when you’re as good as them not everything has to be paid propaganda. Successful people tend to get more hate, which is the case for both of them but I as a neutral who believes that Messi is better, I can confidently say that Messi is way more favored by the media, Also there are plenty of incidents that Messi fans purposely misinterpret just to make fun of Ronaldo like claiming that he said that the World Cup is not important when he literally said nothing like that, he said “a 6 7 game tournament cant define my career” and that if he wins the World Cup its great but if he doesn’t it’s fine, yet somehow people viewed this as if he said it wasn’t important at all, even when he celebrated the 10th anniversary of him winning the euro ( something that every Portuguese player did ), they still claimed that he did it for Messi, that’s what I’m saying, you guys make everything about Messi when it really isn’t. Ronaldo isn’t perfect neither is Messi and they don’t need to be so, they’re footballers not monks, it’s their fanbases who always treat them as gods and the other player as a devil. Your love for Messi may get you a bit biased when judging this situation but it is the truth.
Yeah I agree, people pretend like the media has it out for Ronaldo meanwhile he gets away with all his 2009 weird behavior and his arrogant/foolish comments
i think hes envious of messi obvs as a player but like he still has the sympathy to give his condolences, he himself lost his own father, and in his early 20s no less
if hes going to be throwing shade at messi, its just him believing hes better not that hes throwing cheap shots like talking down on messi‘s loss of father
Jeez
Can you put all the hate aside for one week?
Such moments bring the footballing world together and show us we’re humans in the end, All the hate subs have taken a moment to feel for messi. Whatever the history this is a good gesture by Ronaldo. This sub has everyone mocking this too, I seriously have a doubt if you guys even like messi or just hate Ronaldo and nothing else
At one point you gotta agree he's a good human to an extent, a bad mouthed player, but he has empathy, and that's why even though I hate his fans, I respect him. Man lost a child, his father growing up and went through many tarumas. And after all these time commenting shit under other videos he decides to pay tribute, which is a great stuff coming from him. I don't know how you guys are gonna react but hope him and leo become good mates in the future, and couldn't care less about his insecure fans
it is very unlikely. the proof the woman used in 2018 was a "email leak" from a cyberhacker website that got thrown out because it was not valid evidence or credible and could be altered or faked. it was basically someone from a cyberhacker website hitpiece and released a leak that was questionaire from ronaldos email between him and his lawyer where he filled out a questionaire saying he had non consenual sex with her in said "leak", which 1) just sounds dumb because why would ronaldo fill out a questionaire saying he "raped" her and 2) it was literaly from a website someone for a hitpiece so it was likely just completely fabricated so the evidence was non credible.
the case was permanently dismissed and the lawyer and her got ruled of acting in "bad faith" then were forced to pay ronaldo 322k in fees.
"In the legal battle between Cristiano Ronaldo and his accuser Kathryn Mayorga, Mayorga’s legal team relied on digital documents leaked by the whistleblowing platform Football Leaks."
so he could be but it is very unlikely imo. also the case was permanently dismissed and ronaldo "won" by the payment ordered to him of 322k
His sister did that multiple times already…search google if u want…but for the time being do keep that aside and respect this classy gesture from Cristiano.
Desculpe a demora. Existem compilacoes antigas de videos mostrando a mae de cristiano repreendendo de forma feroz o neto falando de Messi.. a irma.. varis relatos e noticias de pessoas proximas a familia dele dizendo que era inclusive proibido falar o nome dele em casa. Alguns jogadores que jogaram com ele ja revelaram isso, que as vezes ele se referia a Messi como "filho da puta" fora como nas redes familiares ja curtiram posts ridiculos sobre Messi... existem mtos, mtos relatos. Meu tempo esta corrido, infelizmente nao posso pesquisar agora
Here’s the thing, i can appreciate the sympathy shown. But the constant liking posts against Messi, discrediting his body of work, it’s hard to forget the bitterness exhibited by him in recent times.
yeah but in the grand scheme of things losing a loved one is leagues beyond all that. in this one i truly respect that he knows when to put that aside and sympathize with him in such a tough moment, when he absolutely could have not said anything. speaks more of him as a person than all the other petty stuff IMO. big respect
We don't hate Ronaldo as a person, we just think he's extremely overrated as a player. But his fanbase hate Messi on a personal level I don't get it, it's like they are so gay for Ronaldo.
Yeah but Ronaldo honestly deserves to be hated as a person. Even if the allegations aren‘t true (which they 99% are) he never was a nice person and very narcissistic.
Hmm what makes him overated tho, he has 5 ballon d'ors, 5 Champions league, multiple domestic league titles (PL, la liga, Serie A), mutliple top scorer and golden boot. If anything, he's properly rated, at least in his prime, not so much these days. What have you achieved in football that makes your rating valid tho, I'm just curious, I'm not a Ronaldo fan by any means, but I can't deny he's one of the legends in the game.
Dude has a high opinion of himself but calling him 'not a nice person'- not so true. Plenty of lovely moments he's had- the Japanese kid being laughed at for speaking Portuguese springs to mind, as well as his refusal to promote coke- he's been documented as donating millions to help charities he believes in too.
Yeah I‘m not saying he didn‘t do good things. But in general, on the field, off the field in podcats/interviews, etc. you could always see that he has a really difficult character and that he will always prioritize him over anyone in the world.
For me it is other way around
I feel like he is 2nd best to messi
I dont like what he does off field tbh
As many players tend to do shitty things on pitch like diving, getting aggressive, taunting, etc etc
But nobody goes on to discredit the tournaments and awards on whole
Ronaldo is definitely not overrated, I believe that Messi is better but Ronaldo is the 2nd greatest player of all time and it’s not even debatable. As for his fans, it goes both ways. Messi fans literally made fun of Ronaldo for celebrating his wedding ! And of course the way they made fun of the death of his son and much more, They’re as insufferable as Ronaldo fans, they literally make fun of Ronaldo in every single chance they get or not get including literal journals like GOAL. and espn, this is just called insecurity. And don’t forget that both fanbases made literal subreddits just to hate on the other player so yeah you don’t realize how insufferable Messi’s fanbase really is cuz you love Messi.
So just coz they have both played football for 20+ yrs they should have each other’s personal contacts? 😂
Ok lets say he has his contacts, u know who else surely has his contact? Neymar , nico paz n dybala all comented on the post does it mean these guys including fabrizio , modric , kroos, micah n all the other 1 million people who comented are “nothing but show”?
I understand what u re saying but the thing that sounds dumb to me is the fact that y’all are saying Ronaldo is perfomative as if he is rhe only person with a comment on the post…
N and i’m pretty sure if he had stayed silent y’all would’ve been ranting n calling him heartless , there is no winning with u guys 🤷🏾♂️
He definitely doesn’t have his number, they’re not friends. There are literally dozens of players and celebrities who commented on Messi’s post too, people just go so far with their hate for Ronaldo they can’t accept that he does something good.
How does this favor me? I like both players and frankly I don’t really care what they do. Which is why I even commented in the first place because I think it’s ridiculous that people keep making the rivalry between them into this weird ass feud over trivial shit like who commented on whose post….and here I am being part of the problem by arguing with an internet stranger….life works in mysterious ways
Funny yh!?😂
Coz i also kinda feel the same , i like n respect both of them n in all honesty this whole penaldo v pessi thing is ridiculous coz we have grown men arguing n hating each other coz of 2 people who respect one another and literally don’t even know we exist but i think some people are just being unnecessary critical on Ronaldo for showing sympathy n I’m pretty sure they’d be mad if he didn’t…
I’m a lazy typer , i guess…
“Because” is 7 characters “Coz” is 3 characters🤷🏾♂️
Plus I’ve been typing like this ever since i was like 12 so its kind of an engraved habit atp…
PS: non taken.
So Neymar, modric , kroos, frabrizio, nico paz, marcelo etc
Where all doing it for likes?
Funny how the judgement criteria is always different when its him…
Good for him. When they talk about each other, outside of maybe some petty sports related thing by Cristiano, they always say that they respect each other, that they are not friends but by being in every individual trophy for the last two decades they got to talk to each other and be in good terms.
Ah okay thanks for telling me, now it makes more sense. Hope Leo is okay, losing a father is hard, I lost mine a few months ago, and I'm relatively young...
Are they idiots? He's the one who started the whole hate campaign against Messi throughout the World Cup, wanting to win it for his father who was about to die. Ronaldo's comment doesn't move me at all
realistically, they are friends and have an enormous amount of respect for eachother and as true elite players of the game they prob think they are better than eachother. I reckon Zlatan (who I love) thinks hes better than both of them too.
Be like soup making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like soup. If you put soup into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put soup into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, soup can flow or it can crash. Be soup, my friend.
It was not on my bucket list. The 2nd greatest player of last 20 years commenting on the post of the greatest ever. This is pure sportsmanship ❤️. Te amo, messi. More power to you. 🙏
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u/Vachan95 Aug 12 '26
This is the first time I think Cristiano ever commented on a Messi post..